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Mike Marsh returns as PNE caretaker boss, Luke returns with visions of the best Swans team this century. It’s all building up to another a game, of sorts.




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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 10:53 - Aug 18 with 1219 viewsvetchonian

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 10:08 - Aug 18 by RichardO

I thought he had a good game with what he does which is enable other with his movement and positional sense, he not the most skillful player but how many times have we seen midfielders when we look to or have to attack push on, far, too early sitting in a line with the forwards waiting for the ball to come to them, Cooper playing on that inside left position feeds the winger, covers the fullback's forward runs ands get forward into the box in areas to at least have a goal scoring opportunity and given the tempo of our play he was still doing it in the dying minutes of the game.

We had instances in the past when we had Paterson, Piroe and Ntcham playing together but it didn't work because they didn't get any service and didn't combine well defensively when needed, even last season the service to Placheta's and Tymon's runs were not seen by Paterson time and time again because as Paterson cut inside he became totally unaware of what was happening on his left.

You have to have players on the pitch who are aware what is happening around them and can react to them quickly, both going forward and defensively. Both Cooper and Franco did that well yesterday along with Grimes linking up well.

Last season Paterson , Platino and Grimes became the starting midfield and our performances picked up. We caused teams problems with quick balls through the middle so attacking wise better but it wasn't strong enough defensively against Leicester inexperienced young player or poor team work we fell apart, Fulton was soon restored to the midfield.
Yesterday's game was won on solid team work and I think Cooper's work goes unnoticed at times.
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Very good summary, and i agree about Cooper an ex pro once told me to watch players off the ball follow a player not the play for part of the game .
When ypu watxh Cooper he us always moving into space either in advance positions or filling a gap defensively ..whilst also getting amongst it to win anball.
He reminds me a little of John Mahoney his football not always pretty but pops up everywhere. He was unlucky not to get on the score sheet yesterday too

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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 11:10 - Aug 18 with 1169 viewsRichardO

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 10:53 - Aug 18 by vetchonian

Very good summary, and i agree about Cooper an ex pro once told me to watch players off the ball follow a player not the play for part of the game .
When ypu watxh Cooper he us always moving into space either in advance positions or filling a gap defensively ..whilst also getting amongst it to win anball.
He reminds me a little of John Mahoney his football not always pretty but pops up everywhere. He was unlucky not to get on the score sheet yesterday too


Just watched the highlight and he had dropped to the left back position as Tjoe followed a run inside, after the opposition play broke down as Ronald and Tjoe didn't get the right positions he was quite vocal with them both of them advising them to where they should be. He had to do it with Manning who did his usual drive forward which Cooper covered but Manning seemed inclined to stay in a centreforward position, Cooper made sure he got back into his full back roll to keep the team shape
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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 11:14 - Aug 18 with 1161 viewsSullutaCreturned

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 09:41 - Aug 18 by sons_of_omri

Some people in the comments above aren’t taking into consideration that it’s only the third game (including the cup). Some lovely interplay evident in the second half especially- I can definitely sense a big improvement. With some quality additions at 10 and centre half we will be a tough team this season.


Thing is though, in the early stages most of us can accept players are still gelling, still learning about each other, what we can't accept is a lack of energy and effort.

Against Boro we were slow, turgid, lacking spirit for much of the game and that's inexcusable and needs calling out.

Yesterday was a different story. It was much better but even so still plenty of room for improvement.

We have tickets for Cardiff and we are going to West Brom, if we can have a minimum of 4 points from those 2 games and the performance remains on an upward curve then nbody should be unhappy.

Grimes in particular needs to keep going as he did yesterday, be the player we have so randomly seen and then even I will be singing his praises.
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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 11:15 - Aug 18 with 1158 viewsmagicdaps10

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 10:53 - Aug 18 by vetchonian

Very good summary, and i agree about Cooper an ex pro once told me to watch players off the ball follow a player not the play for part of the game .
When ypu watxh Cooper he us always moving into space either in advance positions or filling a gap defensively ..whilst also getting amongst it to win anball.
He reminds me a little of John Mahoney his football not always pretty but pops up everywhere. He was unlucky not to get on the score sheet yesterday too


A players movement is so important, it creates a pass and it can even make a pass look great.

I remember a couple of years ago there was a discussiin(use of a better word) about how slow we were at moving the ball forward and it was based around the game that day, after being at the game I wrote how the lack of movement was preventing the ball being played forward but I was told I was incorrect despite that person(not you) not being there.

But that aside.....you are absolutely correct, movement off the ball is so important and yet it's something many fans don't acknowledge enough or grasp that effects other factors in a game.

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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:34 - Aug 18 with 1075 viewsdobjack2

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 11:15 - Aug 18 by magicdaps10

A players movement is so important, it creates a pass and it can even make a pass look great.

I remember a couple of years ago there was a discussiin(use of a better word) about how slow we were at moving the ball forward and it was based around the game that day, after being at the game I wrote how the lack of movement was preventing the ball being played forward but I was told I was incorrect despite that person(not you) not being there.

But that aside.....you are absolutely correct, movement off the ball is so important and yet it's something many fans don't acknowledge enough or grasp that effects other factors in a game.


If you only watch games on the box it's easy to miss movement off the ball as the coverage concentrates on the ball.
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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:43 - Aug 18 with 1049 viewsWhiterockin

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 10:26 - Aug 18 by onehunglow

Makes you wonder what Paterson did
Where is he now?


Is his agent gambling on someone taking him after the window closes, when they realise their squad is thin.
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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:52 - Aug 18 with 1005 viewsWhiterockin

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:34 - Aug 18 by dobjack2

If you only watch games on the box it's easy to miss movement off the ball as the coverage concentrates on the ball.


True, you not only miss movement off the ball you miss the lack of it. Quite often the space on one side of the pitch is created by runs on the opposite side dragging players across, this is where the runs need to be made inside.
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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:55 - Aug 18 with 997 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:52 - Aug 18 by Whiterockin

True, you not only miss movement off the ball you miss the lack of it. Quite often the space on one side of the pitch is created by runs on the opposite side dragging players across, this is where the runs need to be made inside.


Having said that,you have a chance to watch the build up,the creation and the function of players.
It’s easy to miss stuff at live games
At home ,fewer distractions

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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:56 - Aug 18 with 996 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:43 - Aug 18 by Whiterockin

Is his agent gambling on someone taking him after the window closes, when they realise their squad is thin.


So,he’s still being employed by us?
My Gid,if so,what a job to have .

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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 13:00 - Aug 18 with 986 viewsWhiterockin

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:56 - Aug 18 by onehunglow

So,he’s still being employed by us?
My Gid,if so,what a job to have .


No he's not he's a free agent. Unemployed.
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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 13:01 - Aug 18 with 970 viewsWhiterockin

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:55 - Aug 18 by onehunglow

Having said that,you have a chance to watch the build up,the creation and the function of players.
It’s easy to miss stuff at live games
At home ,fewer distractions


Really, that's your excuse down the pan then.
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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 13:04 - Aug 18 with 941 viewsmagicdaps10

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:34 - Aug 18 by dobjack2

If you only watch games on the box it's easy to miss movement off the ball as the coverage concentrates on the ball.


Was my argument at the time.

I was told I was wrong though 😁

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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 13:18 - Aug 18 with 891 viewsjack247

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 12:55 - Aug 18 by onehunglow

Having said that,you have a chance to watch the build up,the creation and the function of players.
It’s easy to miss stuff at live games
At home ,fewer distractions


If you’re posting on here 30 or 40 times during the game, you’re distracted. You’re basically just watching the bits where the commentator gets animated.
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Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 13:25 - Aug 18 with 868 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Preston North End : Match day thread on 13:01 - Aug 18 by Whiterockin

Really, that's your excuse down the pan then.



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