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Talent x Form x Effort = Performance 17:41 - Feb 27 with 1845 viewsARudd

So, having read thread after thread and Clive's brilliant analysis of what's going on at QPR these dark days, I thought I'd have a bit of a focus on the players, just for shits and giggles, because I want to rationalise how we can have plummeted from top of the league to proper relegation form.

Is it because we are crap? Is it because nobody cares; is it because of a serious loss of form.

I genuinely don't believe that the vast majority of players want to play badly, but performances can suggest that, so how do we assess a player more than "he was shite". For me it's down to 3 things:

1 Are they TALENTED. Broadly this is pretty constant, albeit younger players talent will develop more than seasoned one's

2. How's their FORM. Are they playing to the best of their ability (talent). Form is, obviously a sine wave, capturing and maintaining it are key

3. Are they making an EFFORT. Are they trying, physically and mentally

So elite performance requires talent, form and effort, but good form and great effort can make up for lesser talent. Loads of talent with no form and no effort isn't going to end well.

Ossie & Tim are great examples of this, Ossie not that talented (not his fault, we hired him) but works hard on form and gives great effort, so gets MoM vs Blackburn. Tim, obviously talented but terrible form and effort means he may as well have been wearing a Blackburn shirt...

This is how I feel the team (players we see most of and judging some pre-injury/ illness) are currently, with talent based on Championship standards. Just my opinions, don't shoot me for it!!!

Talent Form Effort
Dieng 7 6 6
Dickie 6 3 5
Dunne 7 5 8
Laird 8 4 5
Paal 7 6 6
Kakay 5 7 8

Johansen 8 6 7
Field 7 7 8
Iroegbunam 8 3 3
Chair 9 6 9
Willock 9 4 6
Dozzell 5 5 5
Adomah 6 4 6
Richards ? ? ?
Roberts 7 4 4

Lowe 7 4 4
Martin 8 6 5
Dykes 6 4 8


So my conclusion, for what it's worth, is that we have a team that is "talented enough" for the top half of this league - they aren't crap.

Our individual form is patchy, which is going to drag our team form down a lot.

Effort is also patchy. Even with poor form with the talent we have and 100% effort from every player, as a team we could and should be winning games. I guess I draw some hope from that and GA's challenge is to fix the mental and physical effort levels to start getting any kind of results.


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Talent x Form x Effort = Performance on 19:58 - Feb 27 with 1683 viewsozexile

Mmmmmm I would split the talent into Talent/application of that talent. I think we are seeing now the problem with kids being bought through the nice tippy tappy academy systems. Cause they undoubtedly have talent but they don't seem to be able to apply it under any pressure. They look fantastic in the warm or in a one touch rondo but that's about it.
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Talent x Form x Effort = Performance on 20:09 - Feb 27 with 1654 viewsbosh67

I think this is missing out the horrifyingly bad injury record of so many of the players. Talented, yes. Able to play in a way that drive success for the club, no.

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