| Don't trust the BBC 23:04 - Oct 13 with 16370 views | Kerouac |
...it is merely a propaganda machine for Lefties.
Take this for an example.
The USA is being prevented from rolling out a $1.8 trillion COVID bailout package by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats. This happened today. It is big news in America, even CNN is taking this story seriously, I just watched Wolf Blitzer giving Nancy Pelosi a good going over on the subject (imagine the Guardian were demanding answers from Corbyn for using the system to block a bailout in this country...that's what this is).
Now, the BBC has been taking a pretty keen interest in US politics lately, every day there is a multitude of anti-Trump articles.
How do they report this story?
Nothing on the main page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/
Nothing in the 'News' section: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
Nothing under 'World' (several attack jobs on Trump's Supreme Court Judge pick though): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world
Nothing under 'US and Canada': https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/us_and_canada
...that last page is hilariously one sided.
If you want a laugh scroll down and check out the BBC's spin on what Biden said in the video under 'Did Joe Biden really say he was running for the Senate?'.
These people aren't journalists.
They are not reporting the news.
They have an agenda and are trying to confuse people with lies (see Biden video).
...and they are all paid very well indeed, paid by us.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 15:49 - Oct 16 with 1130 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 15:29 - Oct 16 by FieryJack |
More poppycock.
More half-truths.
More exaggerations.
I've been on this site for years. I haven't just come over here to abuse you.
You didn't reveal to me which country you lived in, you merely said you were 9 hours ahead of GMT. (I'd rather you were in a North Korean paddy field, to be honest.)
I have not tried to justify the murder of a Trump supporter.
Once again, (how many times do I have to repeat this?) I asked the name of the global organisation you claim to work for, not because I want to discover the exact location of the fly-blown, antiopdean town you dwell in (I honestly don't care a stuff about, whatever you may believe), but merely so that I could boycott any goods or services proffered by a company that would choose to employ you.
(Meanwhile, in the real world, I find it perfectly understandable why you wouldn't divulge such information - I wouldn't do so myself.)
Next, you have the temerity to refer to yourself as a "nice guy" (twice!)
You are not.
Decidedly not.
You sow division and enmity on this site like no other poster I can recall.
You proceed in a bullying and deeply unpleasant manner to humiliate those on here who cross swords with you, and who lack your articulacy. (I'll give you that: your brutal articulacy).
You have not converted anyone to your cause. You've hardened everyone's opinions, left or right.
And that is what I dislike about you the most.
I envisage you as a cold, relentless, humourless, reptilian control freak (that out-of-control combine harvester springs to mind again).
Having abused you thus, I will not be one of those calling for you to be banned. That's not my style. I'm too magnanimous and liberal-minded to want to seek to shut down the opinions - however vile I may find them - of someone I find so objectionable.
Besides which, you give me something to kick against.
I expect a reply from you around midnight - Greenwich Mean Time (that's 9am North Korea Time).
Ta 👠|
No poppycock, no half truths, no exaggerations.
Pure facts that expose your posts for what they are. For the third time, dry your eyes.
I didn’t once say I was 9 hours ahead of GMT, you said that, not me.
You did try to justify the murder of an innocent man. Twice. You were called out for it by more than just me. It was abhorrent.
You can repeat you aren’t asking me where I work all you like, but your comprehension skills are such that you can not grasp they are the same thing. You have assumed I work for a chain as opposed to the counties global wing, that’s the issue with discussing such things with people with limited views - they tend to have little clue what they are asking let alone what your answer is.
I am a very nice guy. Where do I sow division exactly? Does that mean I make points you don’t wish to hear, because that’s not the same thing. I discuss real world politics and real world events, to such an extent you are unable to combat any point I make and instead end up making such desperate and unhinged posts such as this.
I am not looking to convert anyone. I can explain things for you, but I can’t understand things for you. That’s on you.
Again, if you have the testicular fortitude to combat the points I make, more power to you and I wish you the best of luck. Thus far you have failed at every single turn and no doubt will continue to do so until your next frustrated meltdown.
Good luck with the boycott. [Post edited 16 Oct 2020 15:50]
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| Don't trust the BBC on 16:28 - Oct 16 with 1102 views | onehunglow |
About what..
Maybe Dr P isn’t as smart as he thinks he is.
I’m not falling into his trap made for fools.
Make of it what you will Doc. |  |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 17:12 - Oct 16 with 1088 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Don't trust the BBC on 16:28 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
About what..
Maybe Dr P isn’t as smart as he thinks he is.
I’m not falling into his trap made for fools.
Make of it what you will Doc. |
Spot on.
Generally ‘full of shit’, is my observation. |  |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 18:34 - Oct 16 with 1068 views | onehunglow |
You see Killy,we really are kindred spirits . | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 18:59 - Oct 16 with 1053 views | Catullus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 15:49 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
No poppycock, no half truths, no exaggerations.
Pure facts that expose your posts for what they are. For the third time, dry your eyes.
I didn’t once say I was 9 hours ahead of GMT, you said that, not me.
You did try to justify the murder of an innocent man. Twice. You were called out for it by more than just me. It was abhorrent.
You can repeat you aren’t asking me where I work all you like, but your comprehension skills are such that you can not grasp they are the same thing. You have assumed I work for a chain as opposed to the counties global wing, that’s the issue with discussing such things with people with limited views - they tend to have little clue what they are asking let alone what your answer is.
I am a very nice guy. Where do I sow division exactly? Does that mean I make points you don’t wish to hear, because that’s not the same thing. I discuss real world politics and real world events, to such an extent you are unable to combat any point I make and instead end up making such desperate and unhinged posts such as this.
I am not looking to convert anyone. I can explain things for you, but I can’t understand things for you. That’s on you.
Again, if you have the testicular fortitude to combat the points I make, more power to you and I wish you the best of luck. Thus far you have failed at every single turn and no doubt will continue to do so until your next frustrated meltdown.
Good luck with the boycott. [Post edited 16 Oct 2020 15:50]
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Dr P, asking who you work for is only the same as asking where you work if it's a small, local company with one office.
For example, I worked for Royal Mail and saying just that wouldn't give you a clue where I worked. My wife works for the NHS.....again it could be anywhere.
Obfuscation and excuses again Dr P. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 20:34 - Oct 16 with 1029 views | FieryJack |
| Don't trust the BBC on 18:59 - Oct 16 by Catullus |
Dr P, asking who you work for is only the same as asking where you work if it's a small, local company with one office.
For example, I worked for Royal Mail and saying just that wouldn't give you a clue where I worked. My wife works for the NHS.....again it could be anywhere.
Obfuscation and excuses again Dr P. |
Exactly.
But once he has an idea in his head there's no removing it.
He has a singular capacity for deception, obfuscation and deflection.
Relentlessly robotic and inflexible. Anally retentive and cold-blooded.
All negative qualities, but they also have the unfortunate side effect of making him extremely, and frustratingly, difficult to "debate" with.
He will concede nothing, absolutely nothing - even if it can be proved to him beyond any reasonable doubt.
No-one will ever win an argument with Gradgrind. And that's not a compliment, it's just an inevitable function of his control-freakery. |  | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 21:13 - Oct 16 with 1007 views | onehunglow |
Think Ive confused him anyway.I confused myself anyway.
The only one who was alwaysright was Kevin No Baloney Mahoney | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 22:16 - Oct 16 with 989 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 16:28 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
About what..
Maybe Dr P isn’t as smart as he thinks he is.
I’m not falling into his trap made for fools.
Make of it what you will Doc. |
Maybe. You will have to tell us what I’m wrong about first so we can see.
But as I predicted in my first reply to you, you hadn’t even read what I said, you saw my name and decided to say “wrong” as you like to do.
My post was declining to reveal where I work, if you had read it you would know that. So again, how am I wrong exactly? | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 22:23 - Oct 16 with 986 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 18:59 - Oct 16 by Catullus |
Dr P, asking who you work for is only the same as asking where you work if it's a small, local company with one office.
For example, I worked for Royal Mail and saying just that wouldn't give you a clue where I worked. My wife works for the NHS.....again it could be anywhere.
Obfuscation and excuses again Dr P. |
No it isn’t. Not even close.
You have become as mad as the people you have associated yourselves with.
As I have explained, I don’t work for a chain. I work for a countries global wing, there is only one. Although I don’t think I would reveal it even if there were 10 to someone who defended the murder of two Republicans and is clearly unhinged regarding myself also aligning with them politically - hence the question.
Get with the programme Cat and stop sucking up to the idiots, you are better than that.
While you are at it you can tell me why the headline “Supporter of the President shot dead in Denver” implied that it was by a Biden supporter. You seemed to run away after I asked you to show me. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 22:34 - Oct 16 with 974 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 20:34 - Oct 16 by FieryJack |
Exactly.
But once he has an idea in his head there's no removing it.
He has a singular capacity for deception, obfuscation and deflection.
Relentlessly robotic and inflexible. Anally retentive and cold-blooded.
All negative qualities, but they also have the unfortunate side effect of making him extremely, and frustratingly, difficult to "debate" with.
He will concede nothing, absolutely nothing - even if it can be proved to him beyond any reasonable doubt.
No-one will ever win an argument with Gradgrind. And that's not a compliment, it's just an inevitable function of his control-freakery. |
There is no exactly about it, he is as wrong as you are. Both driven by an insatiable need to try and score a point against someone that you are simply unable to. It has led to to this line of questioning where you also are scoring own goals, yet it is being jumped upon by one or two stragglers that are of a similar mindset.
Where am I being deceptive or obfuscating? I have told you straight, and have told you several times. You are a man who has defended the murder of people with similar political beliefs to me, it is these beliefs that have turned you into a psychopath demanding I reveal where I work... I AM NOT going to do that. That’s not being deceptive or obfuscating, I can only assume you don’t understand what either word means. Wouldn’t be the first time.
You say I will not concede a point even if it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt. That’s a fascinating statement. Can you back it up that’s the question. Let’s see who is obfuscating or being deceptive shall we?
Point to me a post of mine that has been proven incorrect beyond reasonable doubt that I have failed to concede, a single one will do.
We both know you can’t because we both know you are lying. Throwing out tired lines of no meaning because that is what you have been reduced to. You cannot discuss a single on topic point I make because although you want to disagree, you can’t think of a single counter such is the power of the point being made.
So you turn to this vile, vindictive and dishonest posting that exposes you exactly for what you are. It also exposes the hangers on that aren’t much better as they would have even less to say on the subject than you when confronted, as both Catallus and Perch are examples of.
A woman scorned comes to mind.
Dry your eyes chaps and start reading into the subject matter to try and combat my views. Try and better yourselves. If you need help, let me know. As I touched upon, I can explain things for you but I can’t understand things for you. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 22:41 - Oct 16 with 969 views | Gwyn737 |
| Don't trust the BBC on 22:23 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
No it isn’t. Not even close.
You have become as mad as the people you have associated yourselves with.
As I have explained, I don’t work for a chain. I work for a countries global wing, there is only one. Although I don’t think I would reveal it even if there were 10 to someone who defended the murder of two Republicans and is clearly unhinged regarding myself also aligning with them politically - hence the question.
Get with the programme Cat and stop sucking up to the idiots, you are better than that.
While you are at it you can tell me why the headline “Supporter of the President shot dead in Denver” implied that it was by a Biden supporter. You seemed to run away after I asked you to show me. |
#gaslightling. | | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 22:48 - Oct 16 with 960 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 22:41 - Oct 16 by Gwyn737 |
#gaslightling. |
Manipulating someone into doubting their own sanity that means.
The left use the term out of context like almost every other word they use.
See racist, white supremacy, Nazi and fascist for further examples. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 22:53 - Oct 16 with 951 views | Gwyn737 |
| Don't trust the BBC on 22:48 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
Manipulating someone into doubting their own sanity that means.
The left use the term out of context like almost every other word they use.
See racist, white supremacy, Nazi and fascist for further examples. |
I’d say that telling Catt he’s ‘become as mad as the people you have associated yourselves’ with is exactly that.
I’ve never mentioned racist, white supremacy, Nazi or facist at any time on any thread so not applicable. | | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 22:59 - Oct 16 with 947 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 22:53 - Oct 16 by Gwyn737 |
I’d say that telling Catt he’s ‘become as mad as the people you have associated yourselves’ with is exactly that.
I’ve never mentioned racist, white supremacy, Nazi or facist at any time on any thread so not applicable. |
How is that manipulating him? That’s an observation.
Cat has gone from a lucid and sensible character to suggesting headlines mean other things and running away when challenged, changing my sentence “I don’t form my views from biased media” to “I don’t watch any tv” and failed to grasp that billion dollar global financial firms aren’t like the NHS or Starbucks, they aren’t on every street corner funnily enough - one head branch per operating country.
The above points are incredibly easy to grasp for anyone who isn’t suffering from some sort of impairment, whether that be a mild case of inner fury leading to making irrational posts all the way to full on mental meltdown (fieryjack) - but my view is that it will be on that spectrum somewhere, I see no other logical explanation.
But happy for you to suggest some. [Post edited 16 Oct 2020 23:02]
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:02 - Oct 16 with 943 views | Gwyn737 |
| Don't trust the BBC on 22:59 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
How is that manipulating him? That’s an observation.
Cat has gone from a lucid and sensible character to suggesting headlines mean other things and running away when challenged, changing my sentence “I don’t form my views from biased media” to “I don’t watch any tv” and failed to grasp that billion dollar global financial firms aren’t like the NHS or Starbucks, they aren’t on every street corner funnily enough - one head branch per operating country.
The above points are incredibly easy to grasp for anyone who isn’t suffering from some sort of impairment, whether that be a mild case of inner fury leading to making irrational posts all the way to full on mental meltdown (fieryjack) - but my view is that it will be on that spectrum somewhere, I see no other logical explanation.
But happy for you to suggest some. [Post edited 16 Oct 2020 23:02]
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Fair enough, I’ll change it for you.
Please replace #gaslighting to #anyonewhodoesntagreewithmeiseithermadorillogical.
Better? | | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:09 - Oct 16 with 936 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:02 - Oct 16 by Gwyn737 |
Fair enough, I’ll change it for you.
Please replace #gaslighting to #anyonewhodoesntagreewithmeiseithermadorillogical.
Better? |
Cheers.
I couldn’t care less if someone disagrees with me if they can explain why.
But we aren’t talking about disagreeing here, we are talking about denying facts. You are entitled to your own opinion but you aren’t entitled to your own facts.
So change it to #anyonewhodisagreeswithfactsisillogical please.
I will run through them
1)”Supporter of the President shot dead in Denver”:
At no point anywhere does that even mention or allude to Biden or his supporters in any way. That’s just a fact.
2) “I don’t form my political opinion from biased media, I use media as entertainment”.
At no point anywhere does that mean I don’t watch television, it suggests the opposite. Just a fact.
3) “If I reveal where I work it will reveal where I work”
The above is very clear that revealing where I work will reveal where I work. If Gareth Bale says he works as a footballer for Tottenham Hotspur, guess where he works? Another fact.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:15 - Oct 16 with 927 views | ItchySphincter |
I hope history is not repeating itself where this board ends up in the toilet due to a small number of posters having a narcissistic urge to dominate all others in every conversation. Just my thoughts, no names mentioned. |  |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:17 - Oct 16 with 925 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:15 - Oct 16 by ItchySphincter |
I hope history is not repeating itself where this board ends up in the toilet due to a small number of posters having a narcissistic urge to dominate all others in every conversation. Just my thoughts, no names mentioned. |
Me too. Time will tell.
So far it’s clear that there is a concerted effort to avoid debate and turn personal. Keith has sent out warnings so let’s hope they are adhered to. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:19 - Oct 16 with 924 views | Gwyn737 |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:09 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
Cheers.
I couldn’t care less if someone disagrees with me if they can explain why.
But we aren’t talking about disagreeing here, we are talking about denying facts. You are entitled to your own opinion but you aren’t entitled to your own facts.
So change it to #anyonewhodisagreeswithfactsisillogical please.
I will run through them
1)”Supporter of the President shot dead in Denver”:
At no point anywhere does that even mention or allude to Biden or his supporters in any way. That’s just a fact.
2) “I don’t form my political opinion from biased media, I use media as entertainment”.
At no point anywhere does that mean I don’t watch television, it suggests the opposite. Just a fact.
3) “If I reveal where I work it will reveal where I work”
The above is very clear that revealing where I work will reveal where I work. If Gareth Bale says he works as a footballer for Tottenham Hotspur, guess where he works? Another fact.
Thanks for coming. |
So not mad then? Good, I’m perfectly happy with that.
I’m not getting into the where anybody works thing. I’m not bothered . | | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:25 - Oct 16 with 919 views | FieryJack |
Thanks, Gradgrind.
😂 For giving me a good laugh before going to bed - as you know, it's getting late over in Blighty, so I'm off to Bedfordshire (my home county, as it happens - but I shouldn't really be divulging that sort of info to you, should I?) very shortly.
Me, having a full-on mental breakdown!? 😂
Carry on, mate.
You're starting to behave like a cornered rat, lashing out all over the place.
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:29 - Oct 16 with 916 views | FieryJack |
Unbelievable how blind you are, Gradgrind, that you cannot see how Itchy's comment describes you down to a tee: "having a narcissistic urge to dominate all others in every conversation". | | | |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:29 - Oct 16 with 915 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:19 - Oct 16 by Gwyn737 |
So not mad then? Good, I’m perfectly happy with that.
I’m not getting into the where anybody works thing. I’m not bothered . |
Yes, being mad and being illogical aren’t mutually exclusive.
There must be some impairment there for logical people to feel compelled to act illogical. On what scale is not for me to say.
As I said, this is probably down to some form of mental fortitude where they have identified an intellectual threat and have tried anything they can in trying, and failing, to “score a point” - even if that meant denying or intentionally misinterpreting facts.
As I have said countless times now. If people want to debate things then let’s do it. But getting personal and refusing to explain accusations (because they aren’t valid) is not normal behaviour. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:34 - Oct 16 with 903 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:29 - Oct 16 by FieryJack |
Unbelievable how blind you are, Gradgrind, that you cannot see how Itchy's comment describes you down to a tee: "having a narcissistic urge to dominate all others in every conversation". |
So you wish to be able to state as many untruths as you like about me without me having the right to reply... have I got that right?
Yeah, not happening. If that upsets you and Itch then you will just have to buy some more tissues I suggest.
Whether Itch was referring to me or not is irrelevant, he has a history of making silly remarks to me that don’t align with his words.
The fact is the content of what he said is actually geared to the people who go out of their way to turn an on topic discussion that they can garner no traction within - to a personal slanging match because if they cannot win a debate they try and win a personal battle, it is the epitome of an attempt to dominate.
But you know that, don’t you. | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:35 - Oct 16 with 902 views | ItchySphincter |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:17 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
Me too. Time will tell.
So far it’s clear that there is a concerted effort to avoid debate and turn personal. Keith has sent out warnings so let’s hope they are adhered to. |
Did you get one?
Only joking! | |
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| Don't trust the BBC on 23:35 - Oct 16 with 900 views | Gwyn737 |
| Don't trust the BBC on 23:29 - Oct 16 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yes, being mad and being illogical aren’t mutually exclusive.
There must be some impairment there for logical people to feel compelled to act illogical. On what scale is not for me to say.
As I said, this is probably down to some form of mental fortitude where they have identified an intellectual threat and have tried anything they can in trying, and failing, to “score a point” - even if that meant denying or intentionally misinterpreting facts.
As I have said countless times now. If people want to debate things then let’s do it. But getting personal and refusing to explain accusations (because they aren’t valid) is not normal behaviour. |
I’m off to bed soon so don’t want to get caught up in the details, but Catt is a pretty balanced fella and I object to him being called mad or illogical.
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