| Another summer... 18:21 - Jul 18 with 5547 views | magicdaps10 |
.....and the picture is becoming even more clearer, the intentions and limitations at the helm.
I am really fearing for the future. |  |
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| Another summer... on 20:37 - Jul 18 with 1855 views | Dr_Winston |
| Another summer... on 20:32 - Jul 18 by Jack11 |
I take your points and respect your views. You are overlooking two important aspects though. Our players have contracts with relegation clauses so our wage bill will be naturally lower and much more in accordance with our reduced incomes due to relegation. You have both mentioned rich owners. Completely irrelevant because due to FFP there is only so much the Ashley’s and Coates’ of this world can do anyway. |
We don't know what clauses our players have, if any of them have any at all. Only those directly involved do. Likewise we don't know how much each individual player earns. It's all guesswork.
We do know how much the total wage bill is and how much our income is likely to drop. That's all that matters.
And there are plenty of ways around FFP. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Another summer... on 20:57 - Jul 18 with 1780 views | Jacket |
My biggest concern is with the slow pace of things. Players need to be moved on because they cost too much but we need to make a large number of signings and time is running out. We need a larger squad than last season to face the rigorous of the Championship season. A huge amount of work needs to be done, and again we're going into pre-season with a large number of players who are unlikely of being here past the transfer window. Potter is trying to get people accustomed to his philosophy, yet many of those players won't be here to put that philosophy into action, while he'll have to start again with any new signings we presume are going to be made. What a mess! |  | | |
| Another summer... on 21:01 - Jul 18 with 1768 views | DrGonzo |
I think we've got every right to be a little concerned. Our shambolic approach to transfers since Laudrup was here has ultimately ending in us getting relegated. Now we find ourselves in the championship, selling our best players and keeping the dross that led us here.
We've bought but hardly anything inspiring coming in.
Repeating the same mistakes and expecting the different results.... |  | | |
| Another summer... on 21:02 - Jul 18 with 1765 views | Jack11 |
| Another summer... on 20:37 - Jul 18 by Dr_Winston |
We don't know what clauses our players have, if any of them have any at all. Only those directly involved do. Likewise we don't know how much each individual player earns. It's all guesswork.
We do know how much the total wage bill is and how much our income is likely to drop. That's all that matters.
And there are plenty of ways around FFP. |
It boils down to approaches. If the owners said “our plan is to keep the majority of the players together and make bouncing straight back up the aim because the reward of promotion would cover all losses gained in one season of being in the Championship. Our concern is if we don’t take the gamble we will spend the parachute money gradually in x amount of seasons in the Championship and risk becoming an also ran in the division, thereby minimising our chances of a return to the Premier League” I think most fans would say, I’m behind that strategy, makes sense, let s do it. | | | |
| Another summer... on 21:09 - Jul 18 with 1739 views | Garyjack |
| Another summer... on 18:50 - Jul 18 by raynor94 |
I'd be far more worried about our future if we weren't getting the high earners off our wage bill |
We aren't though are we! |  | | |
| Another summer... on 21:13 - Jul 18 with 1718 views | Dr_Winston |
| Another summer... on 21:02 - Jul 18 by Jack11 |
It boils down to approaches. If the owners said “our plan is to keep the majority of the players together and make bouncing straight back up the aim because the reward of promotion would cover all losses gained in one season of being in the Championship. Our concern is if we don’t take the gamble we will spend the parachute money gradually in x amount of seasons in the Championship and risk becoming an also ran in the division, thereby minimising our chances of a return to the Premier League” I think most fans would say, I’m behind that strategy, makes sense, let s do it. |
I don't doubt most fans would say that. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Another summer... on 21:15 - Jul 18 with 1708 views | TheResurrection |
| Another summer... on 21:02 - Jul 18 by Jack11 |
It boils down to approaches. If the owners said “our plan is to keep the majority of the players together and make bouncing straight back up the aim because the reward of promotion would cover all losses gained in one season of being in the Championship. Our concern is if we don’t take the gamble we will spend the parachute money gradually in x amount of seasons in the Championship and risk becoming an also ran in the division, thereby minimising our chances of a return to the Premier League” I think most fans would say, I’m behind that strategy, makes sense, let s do it. |
The reasoning of a demented Magic flaps on acid.
The first steps of recovery have been put in place, and that's the manager. He's the one that creates the right environment for promotion. Not your simple claptrap. |  |
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| Another summer... on 21:20 - Jul 18 with 1685 views | Gowerjack |
| Another summer... on 21:15 - Jul 18 by TheResurrection |
The reasoning of a demented Magic flaps on acid.
The first steps of recovery have been put in place, and that's the manager. He's the one that creates the right environment for promotion. Not your simple claptrap. |
Astonishingly naive. |  |
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| Another summer... on 21:20 - Jul 18 with 1686 views | Garyjack |
| Another summer... on 21:02 - Jul 18 by Jack11 |
It boils down to approaches. If the owners said “our plan is to keep the majority of the players together and make bouncing straight back up the aim because the reward of promotion would cover all losses gained in one season of being in the Championship. Our concern is if we don’t take the gamble we will spend the parachute money gradually in x amount of seasons in the Championship and risk becoming an also ran in the division, thereby minimising our chances of a return to the Premier League” I think most fans would say, I’m behind that strategy, makes sense, let s do it. |
Great post. There's just one little flaw in it that i've picked up on, and that is if we keep the current squad together, we wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting promotion, and subsequently would end up financially doomed. | | | |
| Another summer... on 21:25 - Jul 18 with 1666 views | LeonWasGod |
| Another summer... on 18:50 - Jul 18 by raynor94 |
I'd be far more worried about our future if we weren't getting the high earners off our wage bill |
You should be worried then as we don’t appear to be getting the big earners off the wage bill yet. Only Fab so far isn’t it? Ki leaving doesn’t count as we didn’t have to do anything to make that happen; little chance for us to screw that up through incompetence or apathy. We still need to ship out 3 or 4 sharpish or our wage:turnover ratio will be obscene.
‘Interesting’ times ahead... |  | | |
| Another summer... on 21:30 - Jul 18 with 1647 views | Jack11 |
| Another summer... on 21:15 - Jul 18 by TheResurrection |
The reasoning of a demented Magic flaps on acid.
The first steps of recovery have been put in place, and that's the manager. He's the one that creates the right environment for promotion. Not your simple claptrap. |
You poor deluded fool. I’d pity you if you weren’t such a charmless halfwit who has to rely on insults to hide your inability to have a reasoned debate. The manager is playing with the cards he is being dealt from above. | | | |
| Another summer... on 11:45 - Jul 19 with 1489 views | byron |
| Another summer... on 21:20 - Jul 18 by Gowerjack |
Astonishingly naive. |
Still on the take🤪 |  |
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| Another summer... on 12:46 - Jul 19 with 1406 views | Captain_Sham |
| Another summer... on 21:30 - Jul 18 by Jack11 |
You poor deluded fool. I’d pity you if you weren’t such a charmless halfwit who has to rely on insults to hide your inability to have a reasoned debate. The manager is playing with the cards he is being dealt from above. |
So you insult someone repeatedly whilst berating him for insulting others. By your own logic that means you too are unable to have a reasoned debate. |  |
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| Another summer... on 14:10 - Jul 19 with 1314 views | magicdaps10 |
| Another summer... on 12:46 - Jul 19 by Captain_Sham |
So you insult someone repeatedly whilst berating him for insulting others. By your own logic that means you too are unable to have a reasoned debate. |
That from Captain Tw@t.
The Res has no foundation to his views, he has proven this time and time again so excuse me if I dont respond to his stupidity.
Tick tock. | |
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| Another summer... on 12:44 - Jul 21 with 1117 views | bringbacklaudrup |
There are of course many difficulties in signing the players that would improve Swansea. The club's situation is not much different than it was during the last transfer window, when it was reported that most of the targets simply weren't interested in coming to a team with such a small chance of surviving the relegation battle. And as you know, many players and clubs will simply wait until August 9 or August 30 to make a decision, especially those players that have several options on the table - and talented players usually have several options to choose from. As for Mawson and Fernandez, I am sure they are probably going to wait until the transfer deadlines approach before making their decision, as so much movement is yet to happen for all clubs.
I am pleased with the players that have come in, and I don't think it is a given that the Ayews are definitely going to move. Andre will have to make sure that he has a steady run of games to fully regain his form after the long injury layoff, so this is likelier to happen at Swansea or another championship club than anywhere else. Besides, I don't think the Swansea hierarchy will allow him to be sold for the amount that he is probably being valued at less than one season after spending such a large sum. His value would have to be raised through excellent performances first, and I think Andre would have been aware of this when he signed the contract in the first place. | |
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| Another summer... on 13:15 - Jul 21 with 1082 views | shandyjack |
| Another summer... on 20:32 - Jul 18 by Jack11 |
I take your points and respect your views. You are overlooking two important aspects though. Our players have contracts with relegation clauses so our wage bill will be naturally lower and much more in accordance with our reduced incomes due to relegation. You have both mentioned rich owners. Completely irrelevant because due to FFP there is only so much the Ashley’s and Coates’ of this world can do anyway. |
two points
1. our high earners don't have relegation clauses, thats Bony and Ayew taking out £180K a week
2. FFP means nothing in the championship if you bounce straight back up, Bournemouth destroyed the FFP rules and ended up witha poxy £4.6m fine a few season later |  |
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| Another summer... on 13:20 - Jul 21 with 1076 views | Loyal |
| Another summer... on 18:26 - Jul 18 by trinityann |
Stop with doom and gloom, we need a good clear out because the current crop of players are not capable of playing a possession based game. |
Nonsense. |  |
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| Another summer... on 13:25 - Jul 21 with 1062 views | Loyal |
| Another summer... on 20:32 - Jul 18 by Jack11 |
I take your points and respect your views. You are overlooking two important aspects though. Our players have contracts with relegation clauses so our wage bill will be naturally lower and much more in accordance with our reduced incomes due to relegation. You have both mentioned rich owners. Completely irrelevant because due to FFP there is only so much the Ashley’s and Coates’ of this world can do anyway. |
You would hope they have relegation clauses.
FFP ? Man City ? | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:21 - Jul 21 with 994 views | majorraglan |
| Another summer... on 13:15 - Jul 21 by shandyjack |
two points
1. our high earners don't have relegation clauses, thats Bony and Ayew taking out £180K a week
2. FFP means nothing in the championship if you bounce straight back up, Bournemouth destroyed the FFP rules and ended up witha poxy £4.6m fine a few season later |
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