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Reply | Southampton V Swansea City The Verdict
at 11:18 13 Jan 2025
I don't want to be a party pooper, it was great to see a win and it was a dominant performance, but I'm drawing no longer term positive conclusions from that game.
We can't play like that against PL opposition without getting spanked, so I'll wait to see if Juric can come up with a formula that works in the league before I start thinking more positively about either him or Sullemana. |
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Reply | Are the days of "woke" ending?
at 21:54 12 Jan 2025
First point. That's just my feel for it.
Second point. So much of this is driven from the US. Trump's attempt at a coup, his disregard for the rule of law and his obvious attraction to Putin and other depots is sufficient for me. You know he just wants to be king and, more worryingly, so do many of the fools who support him.
Yes, sometimes people choose a right wing government and then that government suspends the constitution and replaces it with a dictatorship.
'never ending Gay pride promotion'. I don't know what it's like down your way, but my experience is that Gay pride is once a year. Is that what you mean my 'never ending'? Was one year enough? Does the same apply to Christmas and Easter?
How does wokery pokery benefit the ruling oligarchs? |
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Reply | Are the days of "woke" ending?
at 21:45 12 Jan 2025
I disagree. But I take politicians as I find them, and we're all entitled to distrust whoever we like and vote accordingly. |
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Reply | Are the days of "woke" ending?
at 20:22 11 Jan 2025
At some point 'political correctness gone mad' transformed into 'woke' and in the process rather than just the extreme examples of anti-prejudice and diversity being criticised, the whole progressive agenda came under threat.
It was a clever move. 'Woke' is a handy punchy label which appeals to people who like things simple.
What is also not widely understood is that this whole anti-woke agenda is being pushed by a distinctly right-wing, reactionary special interest. People who prefer a more elitist, authoritarian agenda than a diverse, democratic, egalitarian one. Trump is not a man of the people, neither is Farage, they are simply selling snake oil to the people because they want to be in power. It's what all populists do.
And yes those people seem to be winning at the moment, but as long as democracy can survive, I think this will be a blip, an adjustment, and the fundamental forces which have tended societies towards liberalism and the rights of each individual to authentic self-expression regardless of sex, gender, race or age will win out in the end. |
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Reply | Everton Sack Sean Dyche
at 22:15 10 Jan 2025
Didn't Moyes say that he wanted a return to management but didn't want a relegation fight?
I think he's going to be tempting fate big time going back to Everton having said that! |
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Reply | As if things could not get any worse for Saints
at 22:12 10 Jan 2025
Selling Ramsdale in January would be waving the white flag.
It's the sort of idiotic 'outside the box' thinking that this bunch of muppets might find attractive.
And, yes, there's a certain autistic logic to it: we've going to get relegated so let's cut our losses now.
But football can't work like that. Every team has to try until the final game. It's in the nature of a league. And it's self-respect.
And then there's the 'contract' with the fans. No club can expect support if it is not at least trying to succeed.
I think I'd be asking for my season money back for breach of contract. |
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Reply | Transfer window meeting
at 13:49 9 Jan 2025
They had one plan for staying up - Russell Martin.
They should have sacked him after 8 games and really made an effort to survive.
Instead they stuck with him until we were well adrift and then appointed someone with no PL experiene as a final half-hearted roll of the dice.
Their plan failed and they had/have no Plan B or this season.
Frankly, there is no point in us spending big now.
We'll limp to the end of the season. Get relegated with a laughable points total and Juric will be sacked.
And only then can the Club try to re-group. Hopefully without the current bunch of muppets making the decisions. |
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Reply | Is the multi-club structure leading to less accountability?
at 12:35 8 Jan 2025
i guess the essential conflict here is that for us, success is measured by what happens to Saints, whereas for SR it will be the overall success of the group that will be their priority.
And these two things will not always align. |
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Reply | Swansea
at 11:21 8 Jan 2025
As performed by Dad's Army |
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Reply | Elon Musk
at 11:04 8 Jan 2025
Your first para is doing a lot of heavy lifting! |
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Reply | Elon Musk
at 16:57 7 Jan 2025
You did also seem to be critical of them for failing to live in peace with their neighbours for 4000 years.
FWIW, it also leaves me cold that the Israeli state is behaving so barbarically. You are right, we would hope that Isreal would do better.
My take is that it's this particular bunch of psychopaths who are responsible. Not Jews, not zionists, not Israel per se. But it is very difficult to maintain these distinction when the support for Isreal from many Jewish people seems without limit and when any criticism of what Isreal is doing is considered to be anti-semitic. |
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Reply | Elon Musk
at 16:33 7 Jan 2025
Zionism was a movement for state for Jewish people, and that state was created after WW2. I'm aware of the history.
Rightly or wrongly, it was a done deal long before most of us on here were even born.
I would say that the reasonable view now is that Israel has a right to exist but that it should not be expanding (more that it has already done so) and it should be recognising the rights of its Palestinian neighbour and citizens. |
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Reply | Elon Musk
at 16:18 7 Jan 2025
Sounds like you're quite anti-Jewish though. (Which is what 'anti-semitic' usually means.) |
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Reply | Swansea
at 15:54 7 Jan 2025
Or I can offer you Dad's Army (film) on ITV or When Holidays Go Horribly Wrong on C5. |
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Reply | What has happened to the fans?
at 15:50 7 Jan 2025
Although isn't it true that they got Nathan Jones out quicker than the Board would have done.
Based on the Martin experience, Jones had another 7 games in him at least! |
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Reply | Elon Musk
at 15:48 7 Jan 2025
Please read what I said. I am aware of the differences. "...you are getting too close to talking about Jews for my liking."
'too close'.
You could research the history of how the use of 'zionist' as a pejorative term has been used by the far right as shorthand for 'Jewish'. Just like how David Icke talks about lizards. (Is he still doing that, Jelly?)
What is clear is that this is a minefield. Hence my preference for not using the word 'zionist' when we are really talking about Israel.
This Israeli government are behaving abominably. As far as I am concerned they are up there will some of the worst states ever seen in terms of what they are doing and their disregard for Palestinian life. |
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Reply | Elon Musk
at 14:51 7 Jan 2025
You're talking about Isreal - the creation and expansion of.
When anyone still talks about Zionism - the aims of which were effectively achieved with the creation of Israel - you are getting too close to talking about Jews for my liking. |
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Reply | Elon Musk
at 13:27 7 Jan 2025
I agree. What this Israeli government has done to the people of Gaza is unbelievable.
And I know we are not allowed to make comparisons but their contempt for Palestinian rights and lives is on a par for me with the contempt shown by other regimes historically.
But I do my best not to confuse this Israili government with all Israeli governments, with Jews, and also with 'zionism'. |
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