| Nick was so nearly right 07:22 - Nov 30 with 654 views | grumpy |
If our second goal stood his prediction would have been spot on.
How many of us thought that could happen?
You’ve been a Saints fan too long,Nick 😄 |  | | |  |
| Nick was so nearly right on 08:40 - Nov 30 with 559 views | PatfromPoole |
I jinxed it by saying we were due sone wacky refereeing decisions in our favour.
I do feel personally responsible for this.
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| Nick was so nearly right on 09:53 - Nov 30 with 458 views | dirk_doone |
I know Lumley is only a League One standard goalkeeper and far from perfect, but it certainly helped us not having McCarthy in goal last night. Unfortunately, he'll be back for the Chelsea game.
Re the disallowed goal, playing devil's advocate:
1. The original decision was no goal, so, even without VAR, it wouldn't have been allowed.
2. Armstrong should have been aware he was offside yet still flicked his foot back in a clear (albeit futile) attempt to play the ball. If he hadn't done that, VAR would have changed the onfield decision and told the ref he had to allow the goal.
3. Re whether it was 'better in the old days', for most of the history of football, Armstrong would have been flagged offside whether he attempted to play the ball or not.
4. Without VAR in the Championship, the onfield decision that it was no goal would still have stood.
So, I guess we shouldn't feel too aggrieved, even though I did last night. Officials have always been subconsciously biased and influenced results though and are never going to give a team that is considered already as good as relegated any 50/50 decisions. They never have and they never will. If Mike Dean had been there last night, we'd have had at least one player sent off and lost. [Post edited 30 Nov 12:59]
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| Nick was so nearly right on 10:10 - Nov 30 with 388 views | A1079 |
| Nick was so nearly right on 09:53 - Nov 30 by dirk_doone |
I know Lumley is only a League One standard goalkeeper and far from perfect, but it certainly helped us not having McCarthy in goal last night. Unfortunately, he'll be back for the Chelsea game.
Re the disallowed goal, playing devil's advocate:
1. The original decision was no goal, so, even without VAR, it wouldn't have been allowed.
2. Armstrong should have been aware he was offside yet still flicked his foot back in a clear (albeit futile) attempt to play the ball. If he hadn't done that, VAR would have changed the onfield decision and told the ref he had to allow the goal.
3. Re whether it was 'better in the old days', for most of the history of football, Armstrong would have been flagged offside whether he attempted to play the ball or not.
4. Without VAR in the Championship, the onfield decision that it was no goal would still have stood.
So, I guess we shouldn't feel too aggrieved, even though I did last night. Officials have always been subconsciously biased and influenced results though and are never going to give a team that is considered already as good as relegated any 50/50 decisions. They never have and they never will. If Mike Dean had been there last night, we'd have had at least one player sent off and lost. [Post edited 30 Nov 12:59]
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As much as it irks to say it on the disallowed goal your assessment Dirk is correct. We had a poor first half but a much better second half. Lumley did ok. We have lost quite a few players for the Chelsea game with the bookings. |  | | |
| Nick was so nearly right on 10:10 - Nov 30 with 388 views | Bridders2 |
| Nick was so nearly right on 09:53 - Nov 30 by dirk_doone |
I know Lumley is only a League One standard goalkeeper and far from perfect, but it certainly helped us not having McCarthy in goal last night. Unfortunately, he'll be back for the Chelsea game.
Re the disallowed goal, playing devil's advocate:
1. The original decision was no goal, so, even without VAR, it wouldn't have been allowed.
2. Armstrong should have been aware he was offside yet still flicked his foot back in a clear (albeit futile) attempt to play the ball. If he hadn't done that, VAR would have changed the onfield decision and told the ref he had to allow the goal.
3. Re whether it was 'better in the old days', for most of the history of football, Armstrong would have been flagged offside whether he attempted to play the ball or not.
4. Without VAR in the Championship, the onfield decision that it was no goal would still have stood.
So, I guess we shouldn't feel too aggrieved, even though I did last night. Officials have always been subconsciously biased and influenced results though and are never going to give a team that is considered already as good as relegated any 50/50 decisions. They never have and they never will. If Mike Dean had been there last night, we'd have had at least one player sent off and lost. [Post edited 30 Nov 12:59]
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Also the flag was up for off side, which was overruled by VAR, so it wouldn't have stood. | | | |
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