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As one of our greatest turns 80 today it got me thinking.
From teams pre Premier League which would cope best with the style of play, VAR and all the other bull5hit we have to put up with (well not us per se!) these days?
Wimbledon - 1988 lol QPR -1975-76 Arsenal 1989 Man Utd - late 80's/early 90's ANy liverpool teaam thru 70's and 80's
Any other you can think of......
Dont know why we bother. .... but we do!
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Teams from before football began on 13:28 - Oct 11 with 3943 views
Had a soft spot for Ipswich team of the late 70s and eighties. Mick mills, Paul mariner , Gates and the two Dutch guys. Fine team and brilliant manager in Bobby Robson.
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Teams from before football began on 14:20 - Oct 11 with 3810 views
Hate to say it, but probably the Liverpool side of the 80's. Even allowing for their crutch of the backpass to the goalie being taken away, their centre-backs could play ball so they probably could have handled the press that's now back in fashion.
Maybe our 70's side, but I honestly can't remember enough to know.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Forest and Villa a few years either side of 1980 respectively.
Keegan's Newcastle for that period after we beat them up there in October 1993 until his meltdown at Anfield a few years later. Prematch teamtalk....CHARGE!!
No inverted full backs were needed!
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Everyone will laugh but Alan Buckley’s Grimsby were miles ahead of their time for ball on the deck, play out from the back, full backs as attacking weapons etc. and they were doing it on terrible pitches in clogger leagues. Multiple promotions won. A terrific watch.
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Teams from before football began on 18:36 - Oct 11 with 3444 views
Teams from before football began on 18:28 - Oct 11 by Northernr
Everyone will laugh but Alan Buckley’s Grimsby were miles ahead of their time for ball on the deck, play out from the back, full backs as attacking weapons etc. and they were doing it on terrible pitches in clogger leagues. Multiple promotions won. A terrific watch.
Get out !
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Teams from before football began on 19:16 - Oct 11 with 3384 views
Teams from before football began on 18:28 - Oct 11 by Northernr
Everyone will laugh but Alan Buckley’s Grimsby were miles ahead of their time for ball on the deck, play out from the back, full backs as attacking weapons etc. and they were doing it on terrible pitches in clogger leagues. Multiple promotions won. A terrific watch.
Great shout.
I never understand when people say that playing that kind of football is more difficult for teams like us in lower divisions, especially now that pitches are so good. If it's the best way to play football - an argument in itself, of course - then you make it harder on yourself by doing something other than that.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
not many of the teams today would look as good on the pitches from that era, I think the teams from previous eras would adapt and do well. The Man Utd team of 68, Forest who won the European cup, the Spurs double winning side they'd all be good whatever the era
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Teams from before football began on 20:11 - Oct 11 with 3301 views
Teams from before football began on 16:07 - Oct 11 by BrianMcCarthy
Hate to say it, but probably the Liverpool side of the 80's. Even allowing for their crutch of the backpass to the goalie being taken away, their centre-backs could play ball so they probably could have handled the press that's now back in fashion.
Maybe our 70's side, but I honestly can't remember enough to know.
People forget that about that Liverpool team, but each game they'd score through Rush or Barnes (or get a dodgy penalty) and then just triangle it back and forth between Hansen, Gillespie, Hysen etc and Grobelaar all fkin game.
Used to drive me mad, they were often boring as shite. A great team no doubt and almost impossible to beat, but I do wonder how they'd deal with a game where you couldn't pass it back to the keeper.
Changing that rule was the best thing to happen to football.
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Teams from before football began on 20:31 - Oct 11 with 3269 views
Teams from before football began on 13:52 - Oct 11 by Paddyhoops
Had a soft spot for Ipswich team of the late 70s and eighties. Mick mills, Paul mariner , Gates and the two Dutch guys. Fine team and brilliant manager in Bobby Robson.
Mick Mills does the co-commentary on bbc radio Suffolk for the Ipswich games,and he has a really,really boring voice that is brilliant if you’re struggling to sleep. Good player though.
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Teams from before football began on 21:36 - Oct 11 with 3189 views
Teams from before football began on 20:11 - Oct 11 by queensparker
People forget that about that Liverpool team, but each game they'd score through Rush or Barnes (or get a dodgy penalty) and then just triangle it back and forth between Hansen, Gillespie, Hysen etc and Grobelaar all fkin game.
Used to drive me mad, they were often boring as shite. A great team no doubt and almost impossible to beat, but I do wonder how they'd deal with a game where you couldn't pass it back to the keeper.
Changing that rule was the best thing to happen to football.
I completely agree with all of that, they used to drive me mad too, but I do think that all of their defenders could pass well and play their way out of trouble if the backpass didn't exist and if there was pressing in the their time (as there was with Hungary, Holland and Ajax before their time, and as there is now again). Hansen, Lawrenson, Nicol, Thompson were all good footballers and not the stereotypical physical, hard centre-backs that other British teams employed at the time.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Teams from before football began on 20:31 - Oct 11 by stowmarketrange
Mick Mills does the co-commentary on bbc radio Suffolk for the Ipswich games,and he has a really,really boring voice that is brilliant if you’re struggling to sleep. Good player though.
Can’t be worse than Lee Dixon.
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Teams from before football began on 22:29 - Oct 11 with 3096 views
It's really down to the ability of the manager to adapt and change. The best in the business in the period that I was most invested in the beautiful game as a whole were, Brian Clough, Malcolm Allison, Bob Paisley, Gordon Jago, Dave Sexton and Bobby Robson. More recently, Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger's teams would have been able to adapt to any given tactics or style.
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Teams from before football began on 22:31 - Oct 11 with 3094 views
It's really down to the ability of the manager to adapt and change. The best in the business in the period that I was most invested in the beautiful game as a whole were, Brian Clough, Malcolm Allison, Bob Paisley, Gordon Jago, Dave Sexton and Bobby Robson and later Terry Venables. More recently, Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger's teams would have been able to adapt to any given tactics or style.
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Teams from before football began on 23:31 - Oct 11 with 3033 views
Teams from before football began on 13:28 - Oct 11 by NorthantsHoop
Everton of the mid 1980s were a very good team, great blend and balance of being tough and creative.
Loved that Everton team. If only because they annoyed smug Liverpool so much.
I went to White Hart Lane with a Spurs mate for what was effectively a title decider between them and Everton which Everton won 2-1. Terrific atmosphere, the ground was absolutely rammed. Also the Shelf was a fantastic terrace to watch football from. Grandstand views at standing prices. Neville Southall produced the greatest save I've ever seen live right in front of us (we moved round behind the goal at half time) to stop Spurs equalising late on. The days when you could just decide to take in a big game in on the day and stand on the terraces.
QPR beating that Everton team 3-0 early in the season while they were reigning league champions was a terrific performance. The injured John Bailey and Kevin Sheedy were sat behind us that day as a mate's dad got directors box tickets through work.
Staying on the Everton theme I was there when a young Trevor Steven scored twice against us for Burnley in our 83 promotion season. We ended up winning 3-2 but you could see he had a big future even then.
QPR 76 were ahead of their time and also some of the better Liverpool teams would do very well with today's fitness levels and sports science. Also the Man Utd team of the mid 90s.
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Teams from before football began on 12:19 - Oct 12 with 2711 views
Teams from before football began on 11:52 - Oct 12 by SydneyRs
Loved that Everton team. If only because they annoyed smug Liverpool so much.
I went to White Hart Lane with a Spurs mate for what was effectively a title decider between them and Everton which Everton won 2-1. Terrific atmosphere, the ground was absolutely rammed. Also the Shelf was a fantastic terrace to watch football from. Grandstand views at standing prices. Neville Southall produced the greatest save I've ever seen live right in front of us (we moved round behind the goal at half time) to stop Spurs equalising late on. The days when you could just decide to take in a big game in on the day and stand on the terraces.
QPR beating that Everton team 3-0 early in the season while they were reigning league champions was a terrific performance. The injured John Bailey and Kevin Sheedy were sat behind us that day as a mate's dad got directors box tickets through work.
Staying on the Everton theme I was there when a young Trevor Steven scored twice against us for Burnley in our 83 promotion season. We ended up winning 3-2 but you could see he had a big future even then.
QPR 76 were ahead of their time and also some of the better Liverpool teams would do very well with today's fitness levels and sports science. Also the Man Utd team of the mid 90s.
I went to see Everton at Oxford's Manor Ground in the penultimate game of the following season. I was in the away end with an Everton fanatic, and I was longing for them to relegate Oxford after something that definitely didn't happen a few weeks before. Everton were leading the league, but Liverpool were a point behind, they just needed to beat a team in the bottom 3 to wrap up a second consecutive league title with a comfy home game at the weekend. Naturally they battered Oxford all night but Lineker missed a load of chances and Les Phillips smashed in the winner from the edge of the area with about a minute to go. I remember being a little surprised that the league leaders had only half filled a tiddly away pen and that even before the goal they spent the whole game slagging off their own players, especially Gary Stevens ("shag-happy tvvat" among the nicest things they called him). If only they had known that the team had one more title in them (the following season), they might have been more appreciative!
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Teams from before football began on 12:22 - Oct 12 with 2680 views
Teams from before football began on 18:28 - Oct 11 by Northernr
Everyone will laugh but Alan Buckley’s Grimsby were miles ahead of their time for ball on the deck, play out from the back, full backs as attacking weapons etc. and they were doing it on terrible pitches in clogger leagues. Multiple promotions won. A terrific watch.
One of my old chums was a huge Grimsby fan and he thought Alan Buckley should have been the England manager.
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Teams from before football began on 22:47 - Oct 12 with 2343 views
Surprised no one's mentioned them yet but Ron Atkinson's West Brom team of the late 70s with Laurie Cunningham, Cyrille Regis, Tony Brown, Bryan Robson, Len Cantello, Ally Brown et al and specifically the 78/79 team who if it hadn't had been for the horrific winter we had and all the fixture postponements they suffered in particular, may have won the league title that season. Their taking apart of Man Utd at Old Trafford on NYE, pure football entertainment.
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