| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers 09:44 - Jun 11 with 9075 views | dickythorpe |
League 2 is
We could be badly exposed next season.
Why are we seriously considering this under 17/academy coach?
"On the cheap" option I feel. [Post edited 11 Jun 2019 9:45]
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:25 - Jun 12 with 1215 views | Devz00 |
The Garry Monk appointment was bonkers too at the time. Worked for a bit then ultimately failed. At least Cooper is an actual coach.
Bob Bradley was quite experienced… |  |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:33 - Jun 12 with 1205 views | vetchonian |
Like we did in the premiership with ~Monk? |  |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:34 - Jun 12 with 1201 views | jackrmee |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 11:12 - Jun 12 by vetchonian |
But what has experience as aplayer to do with coaching...look at the ikes of "leaders" as players who failed miserably as coaches/managers....Bryan Robson,Kevin Ratcliffe,Peter Reid all experienced players ath the top level, all with contacts .....Management didnt work out for them.
At least Cooper has some experience in organising teams for matches etc....
Its not all about contacts and playing experience!!! |
Exactly! And Cooper has been a coach for yonks. |  |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:36 - Jun 12 with 1200 views | jackrmee |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 11:26 - Jun 12 by Swanseaman |
Good point. Cooper has shown that his teams are well organized and they know what they are doing.
If he has the ability to organize people, why shouldn't it translate to adult teams. A lot of it has to do with his training methods and his principles. If the players see that he knows what he's doing, if it is similar to the way they have been training, it could work out well. |
Also exactly! If he can get kids to understand his methods and play decent stuff, surely adults will find it a piece of piss. | |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:37 - Jun 12 with 1197 views | jackrmee |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 13:03 - Jun 12 by Devz00 |
I’m not convinced of the logic here. Lampard is far less qualified for a manager’s job than Cooper. Cooper has actually won a world cup by managing a national side, albeit at under 17s.
Lampard has done well in his role, it was still a huge gamble by Derby but it’s the sort of move that we would normally do. I would far rather take a risk here than appoint a nothing manager who’s just bobbed about in the lower leagues like Appleton.
It’s not as if we are plucking a random bloke from the pub. He is a proper coach who has worked his way up to Liverpool academy and now England and is held in high regard.
It might go spectacularly wrong but it could also go wrong with any manager. |
Also also exactly! He's been hand picked by the FA to give speeches and seminars about tactics and basically teach the people doing their coaching badges ffs. Some people think he knows a thing or two. | |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:42 - Jun 12 with 1177 views | Swanseaman |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:36 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
Also exactly! If he can get kids to understand his methods and play decent stuff, surely adults will find it a piece of piss. |
Too right, also our players have been training to similar methods, so could pick it up easier again. |  |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:44 - Jun 12 with 1167 views | Badlands |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:36 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
Also exactly! If he can get kids to understand his methods and play decent stuff, surely adults will find it a piece of piss. |
Seriously!
Coaching schoolboys needs a very special set of skills that are not always ('d say rarely) transferable to adults, especially ones who have played at the highest level).
Hope it works but I'm to be convinced. |  |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:46 - Jun 12 with 1156 views | jackrmee |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:44 - Jun 12 by Badlands |
Seriously!
Coaching schoolboys needs a very special set of skills that are not always ('d say rarely) transferable to adults, especially ones who have played at the highest level).
Hope it works but I'm to be convinced. |
But you're talking as if Cooper ONLY has that one set of skills that will only work with youngsters | |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:51 - Jun 12 with 1150 views | Swanseaman |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:44 - Jun 12 by Badlands |
Seriously!
Coaching schoolboys needs a very special set of skills that are not always ('d say rarely) transferable to adults, especially ones who have played at the highest level).
Hope it works but I'm to be convinced. |
I think it's the older adults of 27+ where they may have developed set ideas and think they know better, where it would be more difficult.
We have quite a young squad and hopefully will add more youngsters this season, so it may be a good fit - although nothing is for certain how well a new manager will ever do. | |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:52 - Jun 12 with 1144 views | newcomer |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 08:54 - Jun 12 by vetchonian |
Derby obviously didnt think so when appointing thier new manager this time last year!
A person with zero managerial/coaching experience...let me think who was the experienced manager they appointed that led them to the play off?
Oh yes Frank Lampard zero coaching or managerial experience before his appointment |
Not sure why Lampard is getting so much attention . In season 2017-18 Derby finished with 75 points , last season ( with Lampard in charge ) it was 74 . So no real progress ? | | | |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 15:04 - Jun 12 with 1113 views | Swanseaman |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:44 - Jun 12 by Badlands |
Seriously!
Coaching schoolboys needs a very special set of skills that are not always ('d say rarely) transferable to adults, especially ones who have played at the highest level).
Hope it works but I'm to be convinced. |
Also, I've heard that Cooper's training sessions are very good. I can't see there would be much difference with training a youngster or an older player, the older more experienced player should pick it up easier. | |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 15:28 - Jun 12 with 1066 views | thornabyswan |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 20:48 - Jun 11 by dickythorpe |
We are worse off this time this year than this time last year, trust me!!!! |
You thought Potter was a very limited our 20 goal striker is not good enough.
Now this guy is not good enough.
Not even a ball kicked in anger yet.
But you would rather go with the Newport manager.
Glad you are not on the panel with Curtis and Leon. | |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 17:13 - Jun 12 with 1014 views | jasper_T |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 14:37 - Jun 12 by jackrmee |
Also also exactly! He's been hand picked by the FA to give speeches and seminars about tactics and basically teach the people doing their coaching badges ffs. Some people think he knows a thing or two. |
Loads of managers do that. They drag in whoever they can, working or not. Monk was doing it a year into his management career. | | | |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 18:03 - Jun 12 with 980 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 17:13 - Jun 12 by jasper_T |
Loads of managers do that. They drag in whoever they can, working or not. Monk was doing it a year into his management career. |
Yeah, and Leon Britton was one of those he was tutoring, hence my point in the last thread. |  | | |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 18:44 - Jun 12 with 940 views | dickythorpe |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 15:28 - Jun 12 by thornabyswan |
You thought Potter was a very limited our 20 goal striker is not good enough.
Now this guy is not good enough.
Not even a ball kicked in anger yet.
But you would rather go with the Newport manager.
Glad you are not on the panel with Curtis and Leon. |
I bet your cupboards are full of magic beans.
Seriously we are being fecked over now by yanks. | | | |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 18:47 - Jun 12 with 934 views | Treforys_Jack |
It's always easier to be negative and moan. |  | | |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 18:56 - Jun 12 with 925 views | dickythorpe |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 18:47 - Jun 12 by Treforys_Jack |
It's always easier to be negative and moan. |
What are the positives then?
Where are the brave hard men who wanted demos and marches now?
WAKE UP | | | |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 20:26 - Jun 12 with 885 views | thornabyswan |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 18:56 - Jun 12 by dickythorpe |
What are the positives then?
Where are the brave hard men who wanted demos and marches now?
WAKE UP |
The season only finished a few weeks ago.
All that has happened is we lost our manager totally unavoidable as we can't compete with the riches of the PL.
Now we have lost James to Man Utd for close to 20 million quid.
Good business for a player with 1 year left on his contract.
We are in the process of finding a new manager and trying to get the club back on an even keel financially.
At least give the poor bastard a chance before slagging him off its getting boring and that's being polite. [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 20:34]
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 20:27 - Jun 12 with 879 views | dickythorpe |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 20:26 - Jun 12 by thornabyswan |
The season only finished a few weeks ago.
All that has happened is we lost our manager totally unavoidable as we can't compete with the riches of the PL.
Now we have lost James to Man Utd for close to 20 million quid.
Good business for a player with 1 year left on his contract.
We are in the process of finding a new manager and trying to get the club back on an even keel financially.
At least give the poor bastard a chance before slagging him off its getting boring and that's being polite. [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 20:34]
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I couldn't care less if you find my posts boring. [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 20:28]
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 20:56 - Jun 12 with 845 views | dobjack2 |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 18:44 - Jun 12 by dickythorpe |
I bet your cupboards are full of magic beans.
Seriously we are being fecked over now by yanks. |
The yanks are shite owners because they do not appear to be interested in the club.
They probably have a warehouse full of magic beans from the share sale.
Everything follows on from the share sale. | | | |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 21:03 - Jun 12 with 837 views | Swanseaman |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 20:56 - Jun 12 by dobjack2 |
The yanks are shite owners because they do not appear to be interested in the club.
They probably have a warehouse full of magic beans from the share sale.
Everything follows on from the share sale. |
All the signs are that once Birch has sorted the finances out and got us back on track, the Yanks will be selling on. | |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 21:26 - Jun 12 with 816 views | longlostjack |
Some of the best young managers in Germany came directly from coaching youth or reserve teams. Nagelsmann and Kohfeld for example. Give the man a chance. It might work. [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 21:27]
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 22:05 - Jun 12 with 780 views | Swanseaman |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 21:26 - Jun 12 by longlostjack |
Some of the best young managers in Germany came directly from coaching youth or reserve teams. Nagelsmann and Kohfeld for example. Give the man a chance. It might work. [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 21:27]
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That's good to know | |
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 22:14 - Jun 12 with 762 views | Glyn1 |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 21:26 - Jun 12 by longlostjack |
Some of the best young managers in Germany came directly from coaching youth or reserve teams. Nagelsmann and Kohfeld for example. Give the man a chance. It might work. [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 21:27]
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Which one of those coached only youth teams? [Post edited 12 Jun 2019 22:15]
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| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 22:49 - Jun 12 with 720 views | Treforys_Jack |
| The Championship is not a learning ground for untried managers on 18:56 - Jun 12 by dickythorpe |
What are the positives then?
Where are the brave hard men who wanted demos and marches now?
WAKE UP |
Positives - Extremely motivated, bang up to date with modern tactics and analysis, used to being successful, obviously a good communicator,, plays a percentage, possession based style and will hopefully drop Kristoffer.
I have no idea if he'll be a success but if he's appointed then at least I'll give him a chance before writing him off. It's not being a happy clapper its being positive. | | | |
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