| If you vote conservative 23:54 - Apr 27 with 6209 views | burty |
Huge benefit cuts are in the pipeline under Conservative plans, the IFS said PA
Millions of poorer families face massive cuts to their incomes under Conservative benefit cuts in the pipeline, independent researchers warn today.
Nearly 3m working households with children on tax credits would be an average of £2,500 a year worse off, if the plans go ahead.
And 1m families with children and nobody in paid work would be £3,000 per year worse off on average, the respected Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) said. |  | | |  |
| If you vote conservative on 00:31 - Apr 28 with 4961 views | Kilkennyjack |
A government of chaos.
Lied about Brexit
Lied about Indyref1
Doing new trade deals with the Saudi's and Turks.
Holding hands with Trump.
27 eu countries she said today are lining up against us ...is this s Fergie dressing room ?
'saboteurs' are people who don't agree.
Theresa said Remain.
Theresa said no early election.
Theresa does not do what she says.
Shame Jezza is Jezza. |  |
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| If you vote conservative on 03:06 - Apr 28 with 4937 views | hobo |
Tax rises too. So tax to go up and spending to go down. Yeah that makes sense  |  | | |
| If you vote conservative on 06:08 - Apr 28 with 4906 views | jack247 |
If we have 1m families with nobody in paid work, that's a bigger problem than who is running the country. I'd be staggered if it was anywhere near that in a country of 60 odd million though. | | | |
| If you vote conservative on 06:42 - Apr 28 with 4892 views | Edmundo |
| If you vote conservative on 03:06 - Apr 28 by hobo |
Tax rises too. So tax to go up and spending to go down. Yeah that makes sense |
If we elect a Labour government I dread to think of the cost to the tax payer......for generations. Borrow/Spend and leave the country in the crapper. I wouldn't trust them again with the countries coffers!
Move your Momentum orientated members away from any sort of control and elect a decent leader and you may have a chance👠|  |
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| If you vote conservative on 08:49 - Apr 28 with 4783 views | perchrockjack |
Labour intend to solve our problems by taxing the rich
I can hear Denis healey right now
They will borrow ..billions, which will add to out outstanding debt
It's cheap to borrow they say
Won't affect me but future generations will be fooked
Simply short term " gain" from the High priest of Cant.
A disgusting filthy man who would kill this country stone dead within five years | |
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| If you vote conservative on 08:58 - Apr 28 with 4775 views | Jango |
| If you vote conservative on 08:49 - Apr 28 by perchrockjack |
Labour intend to solve our problems by taxing the rich
I can hear Denis healey right now
They will borrow ..billions, which will add to out outstanding debt
It's cheap to borrow they say
Won't affect me but future generations will be fooked
Simply short term " gain" from the High priest of Cant.
A disgusting filthy man who would kill this country stone dead within five years |
The Tories are now borrowing more than 'reckless' Labour would have under Ed Balls' 2015 election plan, according to Britain's foremost economic experts.
In its analysis of Philip Hammond 's Autumn Statement, the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) revealed borrowing will be £16 billion higher in 2018-19 than Labour's plan.
IFS research economist Thomas Pope said: "This really is a much weaker fiscal position than we anticipated at 2015 election"
He said the increase in borrowing was from a combination of worse than expected economic forecasts and an increase in spending on infrastructure projects
The difference between labour and the tories when it comes to the need to borrow is that labour are honest about it [Post edited 28 Apr 2017 9:01]
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| If you vote conservative on 09:09 - Apr 28 with 4755 views | perchrockjack |
They have said they will increase it. Full stop.
You either believe or don't believe | |
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| If you vote conservative on 09:13 - Apr 28 with 4752 views | MrSwansea |
And what is the problem with this? The only cut I diagree with are disability benefits. We should always support the less-able, if this is the correct term, I apologise if not! If you are fit and healthy, get out to work. Don't have kids unless you can pay for them.
This country has an attitude that the world owes him a living, and its getting worse with my generation and younger. The sooner less benefits are handed out, the sooner we can get a productive and energised country. | |
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| If you vote conservative on 09:14 - Apr 28 with 4747 views | Jango |
| If you vote conservative on 09:09 - Apr 28 by perchrockjack |
They have said they will increase it. Full stop.
You either believe or don't believe |
They said they would increase it last time and the tories slaughtered them for it. Now you'd think the Tory supporting minions would see through them this time around being that they've borrowed more than the 'reckless' labour had planned but no, they are falling for the same jibberish yet again. May hasn't said a lot since she took charge but what she has said has turned out the he lies, yet still people trust her. | | | |
| If you vote conservative on 09:16 - Apr 28 with 4736 views | perchrockjack |
We have a generation brought up to believe the State will take care of everything you do and its consequences
From cradle to grave
It's a tough old world
You learn, you go to school, you work, you save, you graft ,you bring up a family . You take responsibility always | |
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| If you vote conservative on 09:20 - Apr 28 with 4729 views | Jango |
| If you vote conservative on 09:16 - Apr 28 by perchrockjack |
We have a generation brought up to believe the State will take care of everything you do and its consequences
From cradle to grave
It's a tough old world
You learn, you go to school, you work, you save, you graft ,you bring up a family . You take responsibility always |
I'd rather believe a state that are upfront with their intentions rather than a state who continuously aim to deceive and look down at the majority. | | | |
| If you vote conservative on 09:29 - Apr 28 with 4721 views | perchrockjack |
Does Corbyn and you for that matter believe in an opposition
If you so hate anyone you see as "rich" and your beliefs so right then why have anyone questioning what you do
Opposition parties were effectively banned by many countries where State controls | |
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| If you vote conservative on 09:33 - Apr 28 with 4721 views | jojaca |
| If you vote conservative on 09:13 - Apr 28 by MrSwansea |
And what is the problem with this? The only cut I diagree with are disability benefits. We should always support the less-able, if this is the correct term, I apologise if not! If you are fit and healthy, get out to work. Don't have kids unless you can pay for them.
This country has an attitude that the world owes him a living, and its getting worse with my generation and younger. The sooner less benefits are handed out, the sooner we can get a productive and energised country. |
Nobody would have any children if we didn't have benefits to top up wages. How can families survive on minimum wage/zero hours/flexi contracts.
I have colleagues in work who don't know whether they are working 8 hour week or a 48 hour week with no job security. How can you plan when you don't what your take home pay is. The jobs are not out there with decent wages and job security.
If you want to get people of benefits, you need to double the minimum wage(which is unrealistic) and full time hours. If the gap between rich and poor continue to grow sharpen your pitch folk and bring on another French revolution. |  |
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| If you vote conservative on 09:47 - Apr 28 with 4696 views | Nogginthenog |
| If you vote conservative on 09:33 - Apr 28 by jojaca |
Nobody would have any children if we didn't have benefits to top up wages. How can families survive on minimum wage/zero hours/flexi contracts.
I have colleagues in work who don't know whether they are working 8 hour week or a 48 hour week with no job security. How can you plan when you don't what your take home pay is. The jobs are not out there with decent wages and job security.
If you want to get people of benefits, you need to double the minimum wage(which is unrealistic) and full time hours. If the gap between rich and poor continue to grow sharpen your pitch folk and bring on another French revolution. |
I can't afford a pirchfork. |  | | |
| If you vote conservative on 09:48 - Apr 28 with 4693 views | MrSwansea |
| If you vote conservative on 09:33 - Apr 28 by jojaca |
Nobody would have any children if we didn't have benefits to top up wages. How can families survive on minimum wage/zero hours/flexi contracts.
I have colleagues in work who don't know whether they are working 8 hour week or a 48 hour week with no job security. How can you plan when you don't what your take home pay is. The jobs are not out there with decent wages and job security.
If you want to get people of benefits, you need to double the minimum wage(which is unrealistic) and full time hours. If the gap between rich and poor continue to grow sharpen your pitch folk and bring on another French revolution. |
I disagree. Go and get a full time job with hours, they are out there. You will always earn less money the further west you go. If you want to chase the coin, leave the doldrums of south wales. Which, incidentally, is Labour run.
I am en employer and I can't get people to an interview in, we have taken on a lot of youngsters (paid full wages, contracted 39 hours), some are great, some are not but the ones who are not think the world owes them a living.
Getting people off benefits needs a mixture of slow, incremental minimum wage increase, which the conservatives are doing. Not humping it up to £10 an hour for anyone over 18. And decreasing benefits available, which is what they are doing also.
Zero hour contracts are a different matter. There is a place for them in this country but some employers do abuse them. It is a very hard problem to manage as some people rely on them. | |
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| If you vote conservative on 09:51 - Apr 28 with 4685 views | jack247 |
| If you vote conservative on 09:33 - Apr 28 by jojaca |
Nobody would have any children if we didn't have benefits to top up wages. How can families survive on minimum wage/zero hours/flexi contracts.
I have colleagues in work who don't know whether they are working 8 hour week or a 48 hour week with no job security. How can you plan when you don't what your take home pay is. The jobs are not out there with decent wages and job security.
If you want to get people of benefits, you need to double the minimum wage(which is unrealistic) and full time hours. If the gap between rich and poor continue to grow sharpen your pitch folk and bring on another French revolution. |
Substantially increasing the minimum wage would surely just reduce the jobs available and force more people onto benefits?
Nothing wrong with benefits. A lot wrong with benefits as a viable alternative to work. | | | |
| If you vote conservative on 09:59 - Apr 28 with 4673 views | Jango |
| If you vote conservative on 09:29 - Apr 28 by perchrockjack |
Does Corbyn and you for that matter believe in an opposition
If you so hate anyone you see as "rich" and your beliefs so right then why have anyone questioning what you do
Opposition parties were effectively banned by many countries where State controls |
Totally missing my point. Tories biggest bargaining tool in the last election was that labour would borrow, borrow, borrow and riddle the country with more debt. The country fell for it and the tories have borrowed more and riddled the country with even more debt than they slandered labour for. They are now doing the same again with the same lies and people still fall for it. At least with Cameron the tories had someone who could blag his way out of his own bullsh*t, May is just a car crash waiting to happen. | | | |
| If you vote conservative on 10:01 - Apr 28 with 4670 views | Jack_Meoff |
| If you vote conservative on 09:33 - Apr 28 by jojaca |
Nobody would have any children if we didn't have benefits to top up wages. How can families survive on minimum wage/zero hours/flexi contracts.
I have colleagues in work who don't know whether they are working 8 hour week or a 48 hour week with no job security. How can you plan when you don't what your take home pay is. The jobs are not out there with decent wages and job security.
If you want to get people of benefits, you need to double the minimum wage(which is unrealistic) and full time hours. If the gap between rich and poor continue to grow sharpen your pitch folk and bring on another French revolution. |
This is what gets me. Successive government over the last 40ish years have seen any industry we once had as commodities to be sold off to the highest bidder with no thought to the long term. Now the proverbial chickens have come home to roost what do they do? They demonise the unemployed and make divide and conquer benefit porn TV shows about them., taking the attention away from the bigger picture. |  |
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| If you vote conservative on 10:19 - Apr 28 with 4647 views | pikeypaul |
I disagree to cuts to disability payments.
But cutting payments to the work shy and single mothers
who sh&g for benefits and housing are perfectly acceptable.
So some of these work shy households will be £3000 a year worse
off? So how much are they on at present for doing sweet F A ?
Corbyn would probably just give them more of the tax payers money. |  |
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| If you vote conservative on 10:34 - Apr 28 with 4622 views | perchrockjack |
Absolutely
Disabled people should be first in line but sadly disability has a broad spectrum and is abused nationwide
nobody is advocating restricting family size per se as they did in China but no way should State pay for the feckless females who see babies as a badge of honour . Look around our streets | |
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| If you vote conservative on 11:40 - Apr 28 with 4547 views | londonlisa2001 |
| If you vote conservative on 08:58 - Apr 28 by Jango |
The Tories are now borrowing more than 'reckless' Labour would have under Ed Balls' 2015 election plan, according to Britain's foremost economic experts.
In its analysis of Philip Hammond 's Autumn Statement, the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) revealed borrowing will be £16 billion higher in 2018-19 than Labour's plan.
IFS research economist Thomas Pope said: "This really is a much weaker fiscal position than we anticipated at 2015 election"
He said the increase in borrowing was from a combination of worse than expected economic forecasts and an increase in spending on infrastructure projects
The difference between labour and the tories when it comes to the need to borrow is that labour are honest about it [Post edited 28 Apr 2017 9:01]
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The other difference of course is that we've had a vote to leave the EU in between, which has damaged economic forecasts going forward and changed a lot of plans.
They've also pointed out an increase infrastructure spend - I thought that's exactly what Corbyn wants more of? | | | |
| If you vote conservative on 11:47 - Apr 28 with 4540 views | pikeypaul |
| If you vote conservative on 09:20 - Apr 28 by Jango |
I'd rather believe a state that are upfront with their intentions rather than a state who continuously aim to deceive and look down at the majority. |
Looking down on the majority?
Reminds me of the remoaners. | |
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| If you vote conservative on 12:06 - Apr 28 with 4514 views | Jango |
| If you vote conservative on 11:40 - Apr 28 by londonlisa2001 |
The other difference of course is that we've had a vote to leave the EU in between, which has damaged economic forecasts going forward and changed a lot of plans.
They've also pointed out an increase infrastructure spend - I thought that's exactly what Corbyn wants more of? |
The financial crash damaged economic forecasts going forward and changed a lot of plans for labour, they didn't get to use it as an excuse tho. The difference of course is that labour weren't to blame for the crash but the tories are very much responsible for the way Brexit went due to their arrogance and naivity.
Yes they've pointed out an increase in infrastructure and yes Corbyn wants more of it, but it's still borrowing that they said they wouldn't do and that they slated labour for wanting to do. | | | |
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