| Relegation battle and Ki ? 19:04 - Dec 28 with 4342 views | Swanfan1 |
Can we get Ki back even if it cost us something,
that would finally be the nail in the coffin for Sunderland
we should not be helping out a team that could be our rival if we go into relegation battle. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:31 - Dec 29 with 1113 views | QuakerJack |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:27 - Dec 29 by Clinton |
Poyet used Ki as a DM initially when Cattermole was on one of his periodic bans. They all loved him in the DM role. Then they played him in AM role and he has been even better, making chances and scoring. He's Poyets favourite I think. He looks happier there than he ever did here.
There is a break clause, but I believe Sunderland will put in a bid. The thing is he's doing so well other clubs may come in too. What if Everton or Chelsea liked the look of him after his performances against them. Maybe the best scenario is a bidding war similar to what happened with DG10 last season, I reckon we can get 8 or 9 million for him in his current form. |
I agree with your summary of his form, I don't think we'll get a bidding war going, but we could hold Sunderland to ransom. Ki could be the first player in yonks to go onto better things.
You have to question our entire coaching team in terms of their inability to get the best out of him, or anything out of him. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:36 - Dec 29 with 1104 views | Clinton |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:31 - Dec 29 by QuakerJack |
I agree with your summary of his form, I don't think we'll get a bidding war going, but we could hold Sunderland to ransom. Ki could be the first player in yonks to go onto better things.
You have to question our entire coaching team in terms of their inability to get the best out of him, or anything out of him. |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:43 - Dec 29 with 1090 views | 2face |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 08:32 - Dec 29 by Dr_Winston |
Fair, although Ki didn't exactly do much to force himself into Laudrup's plans last season. |
Precisely. You can't compare last year Ki with this year Ki. Last year he was worn out from playing in the summer plus he was preoccupied with family stuff at home. It was never a question about skills. His focus was elsewhere. |  | | |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:46 - Dec 29 with 1078 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:43 - Dec 29 by 2face |
Precisely. You can't compare last year Ki with this year Ki. Last year he was worn out from playing in the summer plus he was preoccupied with family stuff at home. It was never a question about skills. His focus was elsewhere. |
So what you're saying is that he was unprofessional here last season. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:50 - Dec 29 with 1071 views | Private_Partz |
I agree 2face. Ki looks a fine Premiership midfielder at the moment and no way should we consider off loading. JDG is only on loan plus we also have options of using Ki in defence when we are stretched in that area. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:52 - Dec 29 with 1062 views | Private_Partz |
Joe. off field problems have affected many players. including the great and the good. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:56 - Dec 29 with 1050 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Some off-field issues are unfortunate and I have every sympathy for those involved.
Others are self-inflicted and I have none. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 12:00 - Dec 29 with 1039 views | 3swan |
I have read that some Sunderland fans have given him good reviews, but of the few times I’ve seen him on T.V. he’s done ok without being anything special.
There’s no guarantee that the form he has at Sunderland would equate to carrying on if he does get a call back in January. Different players in a different system.
All this is irrelevant though if M.L’s comment about not recalling him is true — something along a player playing in a semi-final then not being played would mess the player up | | | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 12:03 - Dec 29 with 1027 views | Private_Partz |
fair point Joe. we don't know if the off field issues affected his game but it was a possibility. if he is over them now then fine. I say let's get him back as he looks as if he can do a job for us at the moment. I also tend to think that Ki is the type of player that needs game time and this is case for saying he did not get a fair crack of the whip when he was here. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 12:19 - Dec 29 with 996 views | FearOfAJackPlanet |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:43 - Dec 29 by 2face |
Precisely. You can't compare last year Ki with this year Ki. Last year he was worn out from playing in the summer plus he was preoccupied with family stuff at home. It was never a question about skills. His focus was elsewhere. |
Let's not go overboard in the criticism of his performances last season. He put in some superb performances for us on many occasions, particularly in the first few months of the season.
He was nowhere near consistent enough, although it didn't help that Laudrup didn't seem to know where to play him as he was shuffled around the midfield positions and even into defence. Some off-field issues, the odd marriage here and there and living next door to DG10 probably didn't help;)
I know the way this forum malarky works, if I say 'criticism is overboard' it obviously means I think he's better than Messi and should be recalled 5 mins ago...not so, in fact I don't think he'll ever play for us again one way or the other so it's a moot point I guess. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 12:29 - Dec 29 with 985 views | Al_Bundy |
The one thing Ki has done at Sunderland is get in the box. Rarely did he do this for us. | | | |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 12:59 - Dec 29 with 933 views | waynekerr55 |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 12:29 - Dec 29 by Al_Bundy |
The one thing Ki has done at Sunderland is get in the box. Rarely did he do this for us. |
rarely do any of our players do this either  |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 13:24 - Dec 29 with 908 views | clement |
i think we'll sell him for 5 million, then spend that straight away on a striker who can actually score.
i really don't see any of the bottom 3 clubs as 'rivals'....surely we should look at other midtable clubs as rivals.....
man city loaning a player to westbrom is similar to us loaning a player to sunderland.
we are better than them |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 14:46 - Dec 29 with 857 views | 2face |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:46 - Dec 29 by Joe_bradshaw |
So what you're saying is that he was unprofessional here last season. |
Those are your words.
I think he did his best balancing family and job. But the pressures from being part of the biggest celebritty wedding in South Korea was probably a bit too much to handle. [Post edited 29 Dec 2013 15:47]
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 15:05 - Dec 29 with 810 views | monmouth |
Laudrup is right. No way can he bring him back whilst he has a semi final to play. We'll either sell him or see him again next season under a new manager. I imagine it will depend on whether Sundy stay up........and what Kiisgod advises him to do, obviously. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 15:39 - Dec 29 with 787 views | gevans |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:27 - Dec 29 by Clinton |
Poyet used Ki as a DM initially when Cattermole was on one of his periodic bans. They all loved him in the DM role. Then they played him in AM role and he has been even better, making chances and scoring. He's Poyets favourite I think. He looks happier there than he ever did here.
There is a break clause, but I believe Sunderland will put in a bid. The thing is he's doing so well other clubs may come in too. What if Everton or Chelsea liked the look of him after his performances against them. Maybe the best scenario is a bidding war similar to what happened with DG10 last season, I reckon we can get 8 or 9 million for him in his current form. |
I would love to have ki back right now, after watching him in a attacking role in last 10 mins yesterday he was brilliant, that is what we are missing while Michu is out. Really hope we don't sell him, De Guzman is on loan so if we sell Ki we will be minus 2 quality midfielders at end of season. De Guzman hasn't been as good this season but I thought he was excellent yesterday, he controlled the game. | | | |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 15:50 - Dec 29 with 763 views | Clinton |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 13:24 - Dec 29 by clement |
i think we'll sell him for 5 million, then spend that straight away on a striker who can actually score.
i really don't see any of the bottom 3 clubs as 'rivals'....surely we should look at other midtable clubs as rivals.....
man city loaning a player to westbrom is similar to us loaning a player to sunderland.
we are better than them |
5 million undervalues him on current form. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 15:52 - Dec 29 with 752 views | Liam12345 |
atleast 6.5m 7m |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 16:05 - Dec 29 with 736 views | Shins |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 15:39 - Dec 29 by gevans |
I would love to have ki back right now, after watching him in a attacking role in last 10 mins yesterday he was brilliant, that is what we are missing while Michu is out. Really hope we don't sell him, De Guzman is on loan so if we sell Ki we will be minus 2 quality midfielders at end of season. De Guzman hasn't been as good this season but I thought he was excellent yesterday, he controlled the game. |
Totally agree with that post, even down to the comment about JDG's performance yesterday and I'm no great fan of De Guz to say the least.
If Kiisgod didn't keep popping in saying that he's the best thing since sliced bread then there would probably be a more balanced view on his ability and potential to improve into a solid player at this level. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 19:03 - Dec 29 with 676 views | somersetsimon |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 15:05 - Dec 29 by monmouth |
Laudrup is right. No way can he bring him back whilst he has a semi final to play. We'll either sell him or see him again next season under a new manager. I imagine it will depend on whether Sundy stay up........and what Kiisgod advises him to do, obviously. |
What are the details of the loan deal? I'm sure that the semis are over before the end of Jan, so could we bring him back after the semis (which Sunderland are odds on to lose)? |  | | |
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