| Reality? 21:41 - Dec 12 with 6372 views | garabaldi |
Read a lot of posts on here tonight basically mocking fans who are not happy with tonights performance etc.
This board is becoming like a playground, with bullies ganging up on people who dare post an opinion that dosent comply with others.
Remember who we are? Where we have come from? Last 32 of europe? blah blah blah... BIG DIFFERENCE is that these players are on 20 - 30k a week (or more) and are playing in a billy bollox league/ cup and team.
Thier lack of pride, passion and guts tonight coupled with another boring non attacking display ( when the hell are we going to get behing teams) against a very average St Gallen just made me glad I backed out of this trip 3 weeks ago. The point here is fans go to be entertained, and also should be allowed to voice an opinion on here without being made to feel small.
P.S. Been watchng the Swans for 30 plus years, and never been so bored watching them. |  | | |  |
| Reality? on 10:35 - Dec 13 with 1129 views | monmouth |
Even the hacks on the Times have a more realistic view than some of our 'supporters'. Read it, or listen/read what Laudrup says. In five years you'll be saying 'I was there' in a golden period for the club. Actually no, some of you won't because you are tossers who don't know success for the club when you see it. Bullying. My. Arse. |  |
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| Reality? on 10:38 - Dec 13 with 1112 views | lifelong |
I'm trying to get my head around people in this thread saying that for most of this seasons home games they have been bored and underwhelmed.
If you have been bored and underwhelmed with our home performances against Liverpool, Arsenal, Stoke, Sunderland, Newcastle even Manchester United I think there's a case for stating perhaps you shouldn't be watching football. [Post edited 13 Dec 2013 11:14]
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| Reality? on 10:46 - Dec 13 with 1097 views | raynor94 |
I do find this totally laughable, our so called fans moaning at the position we are in, and please no more of the i've supported us for 30 years guff! because if you had you wouldn't such idiotic comments |  |
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| Reality? on 10:49 - Dec 13 with 1088 views | 2face |
| Reality? on 10:19 - Dec 13 by Catullus |
People keep going on about being tenth as if that makes us safe. There is a long way to go yet and a small points gap between us and bottom.
If our performances don't improve we will be in a dogfight.
And those who argue the Europa isn't to blame, we have played more games than any other Premier team and have a smaller squad than most. Not a combination I like. There would inevitably be tiredness, more injuries and suspensions. To get to the final, for us, would mean 19 games. 57 before counting domestic cups.
The reality is too many on here think being tenth right now is some kind of guarantee. But looking at the next months fixtures, I expect us to slip several places if we don't considerably improve our performances.
I know Laudrup likes a smaller squad and maybe you can get away with it on the continent, but I think the Premier league is a tougher proposition. And it's showing.
I also firmly believe he makes too many changed game to game. 7/8 changes disrupts the team. If we're going to rotate it should only be 2/3 at a time. Surely these players can manage 3/4 games in a row?
Teams with much bigger and better squads don't make 7/8 changes game to game. Man city rested 5 midweek while Arsenal used pretty much their best eleven. |
So you want a bigger squad AND you want to use the same players every game. Can you explain to me how this scheme works? It does seem a bit contradictory.
Let me see if I understand it correctly. You would rotate by having each player play 4 times in a row. And you would accomplish this by changing 3 players every game, correct? And when a player is out, he's out for about 4-5 games?
If this is what you mean, it's an interesting concept. But would it work in the real world? | | | |
| Reality? on 10:50 - Dec 13 with 1085 views | blaine_scfc |
| Reality? on 10:46 - Dec 13 by raynor94 |
I do find this totally laughable, our so called fans moaning at the position we are in, and please no more of the i've supported us for 30 years guff! because if you had you wouldn't such idiotic comments |
If we end up the season in the position we are in, then it will be an unbelievable achievement. But there is a strong possibility, especially with recent performances that we probably wont be in this position much longer. Only takes a few bad results in this league and you are dragged in to the mire.
This was always going to be the case this season with Europe, but there is nothing wrong in voicing concerns, we are here now and we all want to stay here, and to be able to do that we need to find consistency. |  | | |
| Reality? on 10:53 - Dec 13 with 1081 views | tomdickharry |
Where we are now isn't important its where we are on May 11th that counts,if we suffer the ignominy of being relegated the we can forget any stadium expansion,the departure of yet another Manager combined with several players.The period between now and our next Europa Cup adventure is crucial for the future of our club.The comforting thought is that every other club outside the big boys will be under the same kind of pressure as us,thank god we have Man Utd away in the FA Cup which should ensure us leaving that competition at an early stage. | | | |
| Reality? on 10:55 - Dec 13 with 1078 views | Jackanapes |
If we don't end up the season in the position we are in, getting to the last 32 of the European comp will still be an unbelievable achievement. What is giving me a large amount of pleasure here is that there isn't anyone to "blame" for this yet there are disgruntled folk aimlessly trying to get upset about it anyway. I mean who's fault is it that we are in Europe? Should players share collective responsiblity?
Relegation is going to be hanging over our head for as long as we are in the Premier league for the simple reason that there is always another season. If you are so caught up in the fear of us losing what we have, you are going miss out in enjoying what we have while we have it. |  |
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| Reality? on 11:05 - Dec 13 with 1064 views | cockneyswan |
| Reality? on 10:31 - Dec 13 by Jackanapes |
"The reality is too many on here think being tenth right now is some kind of guarantee."
Well I can only speak for myself, but in my case you couldn't be more wrong. I see tenth as a reflection of how we have performed so far. Its far from wise to try and predict the future. We are here, it is now. If you are going to use future uncertainty as a reason to dismiss our achievements then why not look ahead to next season. Whats the point in staying up this season when Laudrup may leave and our squad may be hit by an asteroid etc. If we eventually get relegated at some point in the future then all this is not worthwhile? Life isn't the destination(which is a box in the ground) its the journey.
Look out of the window. It is now, we are here. |
Good Post,
too many "Johnny come latetlys" on here I think. |  | | |
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| Reality? on 11:07 - Dec 13 with 1063 views | Spratty |
| Reality? on 10:31 - Dec 13 by Jackanapes |
"The reality is too many on here think being tenth right now is some kind of guarantee."
Well I can only speak for myself, but in my case you couldn't be more wrong. I see tenth as a reflection of how we have performed so far. Its far from wise to try and predict the future. We are here, it is now. If you are going to use future uncertainty as a reason to dismiss our achievements then why not look ahead to next season. Whats the point in staying up this season when Laudrup may leave and our squad may be hit by an asteroid etc. If we eventually get relegated at some point in the future then all this is not worthwhile? Life isn't the destination(which is a box in the ground) its the journey.
Look out of the window. It is now, we are here. |
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Think there will be few that think there is any sort of guarantee in this game. There are also 2 ways we can move in this table and don't see many saying we could be top 4 and if they did just now they would probably get ridiculed, but all things are possible and that is what makes it so exciting. The important thing is keeping a buffer between us and the bottom 3. Much of the table is pretty tight so it is always going to be a bit of a roller coaster so strap up and enjoy the ride. |  | | |
| Reality? on 11:17 - Dec 13 with 1042 views | Clinton |
| Reality? on 11:07 - Dec 13 by Spratty |
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Think there will be few that think there is any sort of guarantee in this game. There are also 2 ways we can move in this table and don't see many saying we could be top 4 and if they did just now they would probably get ridiculed, but all things are possible and that is what makes it so exciting. The important thing is keeping a buffer between us and the bottom 3. Much of the table is pretty tight so it is always going to be a bit of a roller coaster so strap up and enjoy the ride. |
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| Reality? on 11:22 - Dec 13 with 1032 views | VetchitBack |
| Reality? on 10:31 - Dec 13 by Jackanapes |
"The reality is too many on here think being tenth right now is some kind of guarantee."
Well I can only speak for myself, but in my case you couldn't be more wrong. I see tenth as a reflection of how we have performed so far. Its far from wise to try and predict the future. We are here, it is now. If you are going to use future uncertainty as a reason to dismiss our achievements then why not look ahead to next season. Whats the point in staying up this season when Laudrup may leave and our squad may be hit by an asteroid etc. If we eventually get relegated at some point in the future then all this is not worthwhile? Life isn't the destination(which is a box in the ground) its the journey.
Look out of the window. It is now, we are here. |
Drink-posting is not big and it's not clever. |  |
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| Reality? on 11:25 - Dec 13 with 1024 views | Jackanapes |
| Reality? on 11:22 - Dec 13 by VetchitBack |
Drink-posting is not big and it's not clever. |
I don't drink, but if I'm upsetting you, I'm on the right track. [Post edited 13 Dec 2013 11:27]
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| Reality? on 11:30 - Dec 13 with 1012 views | Darran |
| Reality? on 11:22 - Dec 13 by VetchitBack |
Drink-posting is not big and it's not clever. |
Ooh Forums newbie alert. |  |
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| Reality? on 11:30 - Dec 13 with 1011 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
Everything in this league is relative
Squad size - smaller than most, bigger than a few
Rotation - Larger than most
Fitness levels - possibly slightly lower compared to other teams not playing the games we have
Expectations - higher than most apart from top 6
Entertainment - Have been spoilt so now expect it every game where in reality its never going to happen.
Enjoy the good when it happens such as Liverpool 2nd half, West Brom away, Valencia away, Newcastle home.......
but be prepared to accept if it was like that all the time we'd be in the Champions League places wondering why we weren't winning the league.
I'd much rather be us and accept a couple of games where it doesn't quite happen than follow West Ham, Stoke etc where entertainment happens by accident rather than it being an expectation. |  |
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| Reality? on 11:32 - Dec 13 with 1008 views | Jackanapes |
| Reality? on 11:30 - Dec 13 by Darran |
Ooh Forums newbie alert. |
Interesting that vetchitback talks about not being clever...  | |
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| Reality? on 11:38 - Dec 13 with 984 views | Spratty |
| Reality? on 11:22 - Dec 13 by VetchitBack |
Drink-posting is not big and it's not clever. |
That's forums for you I thought it an excellent and logical post | | | |
| Reality? on 11:44 - Dec 13 with 974 views | Jackanapes |
| Reality? on 11:38 - Dec 13 by Spratty |
That's forums for you I thought it an excellent and logical post |
The irony of all this is that vetchitbacks posts make less sense than a broken autocue spewing out random words. | |
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| Reality? on 12:12 - Dec 13 with 940 views | felixstowe_jack |
Hopefully now the Europa League is out of the way until well into the new year we can start puitting out our strongest team every week, injuries permitting. It has been very disrupting making 5 or 6 changes every game and I think it shows with our dis-jointed play. We need Angel fit at right back we have a weakness there both defensively and our attack seem to grind to a halt down the right wing theses days. - See more at: http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/forum/96465/page:5#sthash.lC3o | |
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| Reality? on 16:03 - Dec 13 with 875 views | perchrockjack |
Personally this board is not the place for discussion
as it often leads to unpleasantness.
Anyway, we have posters who have the correct take on things .
I just hope our fans there last night had plenty of cheese and pretzels and weore something warm during that "performance".
Not long ago we were shuite and now look at us. | |
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| Reality? on 16:56 - Dec 13 with 863 views | 2face |
The negativity does seem out of place on the very day you achieve a landmark result for the club. People might have the right to speak their mind. But from the outside it just seems dopey imo. If you cannot be happy on the day you reach the knockout stages in the EL for the first time in club history. Then what exactly is a reason to be happy. I say save the negativity for another day. | | | |
| Reality? on 17:42 - Dec 13 with 832 views | perchrockjack |
Negative .JESUS.BAN THIS FECKIN WORD . and positive too | |
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| Reality? on 20:42 - Dec 13 with 802 views | Catullus |
| Reality? on 10:49 - Dec 13 by 2face |
So you want a bigger squad AND you want to use the same players every game. Can you explain to me how this scheme works? It does seem a bit contradictory.
Let me see if I understand it correctly. You would rotate by having each player play 4 times in a row. And you would accomplish this by changing 3 players every game, correct? And when a player is out, he's out for about 4-5 games?
If this is what you mean, it's an interesting concept. But would it work in the real world? |
No, I want the core of the team to remain the same and players to be rested when they need to be. I said surely players can manage 3/4 games. &/8 changes from game to game is too much, it disrupts the team too much.
Now then, the person who named games as being exciting, Sunderland, yes we won but we had a bit of help. I was more relieved at the end the anything. Stoke, we were poor first half but like a different team second half. Was the same with Liverpool too.
The biggest positive for me is, despite poorer performance in many games we have still picked up points. I don't expect us to be at our best every game but we need to improve.
And to the comments about my tenth position statement, every time people say anything about performances people say "but we're tenth" Now if it was May I would agree but the fact is we have a long way to go and if our performances stay as they are we will slide. We can't keep playing as we have and expect to stay top ten. We are four points ahead of Cardiff, in 3 games we could easily be in the relegation zone if we don't pick up.
I fully expect people to disagree so I'll ask a question, how many points does anyone think we'll get from now up to and including new years day? My answer to that question right now would be one. But we are capable of more if we pick up.
I go to the game, I get behind the team. No moaning or booing from me. But this season I am more worried than I was last season. | |
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| Reality? on 21:39 - Dec 13 with 791 views | FearOfAJackPlanet |
I love how last season has now seemingly become some barnstorming megaseason where we apparently played supreme football for 90 mins week in week out, barely taking pause from our exhibition football from August to May as we stormed to..er..losing more games than we won and having a negative goal difference...er...
My theory would be that it is the expectations of the fans that has changed between now and last season, and it is THAT which is causing the feelings of consistently poor performances. In the eye of the beholder and all that.
There's a sense of eulogising a particular part of last season (Nov to Jan) at the expense of the rest - we won the first 2 games, then we were utter gash for a couple of months, then had a great couple of months, then were average for the rest of the season. Guess which part has been taken as the benchmark for how we EXPECT us perform in EVERY game?
By all means criticize poor performances and individuals not pulling their weight - I do it all the time - but I just don't buy into the context-busting general statements that extrapolate a poor performance away to St Gallen into a 'I've never been so bored watching the Swans' statement. Have a f*cking word is it? Pull the focus out a bit. |  |
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| Reality? on 21:55 - Dec 13 with 776 views | KingBony |
| Reality? on 07:54 - Dec 13 by Starsky |
Don't fret. There's no more Europa games now until 20th Feb, so maybe we'll drag ourselves out of the relegation zone... sheesh. |
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| Reality? on 09:45 - Dec 14 with 719 views | perchrockjack |
Any fool can post stuff on here on the lines of look at where we are/ where we ve been etc etc.
Aften abject performances the idea is to look at the "positives".
Sorry, but in the real world some are concerned that if we don't play for 90mins at 100% at every game we might pay the consequences.
Still, it gives comfort and fair play to those who have this mind set.
Personally when I see how many fans pay a lot of dosh to go to St Gallen and the manager saying they want to win it kinda gets my goat to see such disgusting "performances". We have a guy "not well paid" on 20k a week who cannot take a corner .
We need a leader and btw Neil TAYLOR -captain;explain that one | |
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