| Gareth Ainsworth on 11:45 - Nov 20 with 2839 views | nick_hammersmith |
Oh dear...
I feel like we can see now how out of his depth he was.
Look at the difference to the recent interview with MW.
It's hard to see how we went from high expectations, with one of the bigger budgets in the Champ to "little old QPR, just lucky to be there" in such a short space of time |  | |  |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 12:31 - Nov 20 with 2733 views | GaryHaddock |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 11:45 - Nov 20 by nick_hammersmith |
Oh dear...
I feel like we can see now how out of his depth he was.
Look at the difference to the recent interview with MW.
It's hard to see how we went from high expectations, with one of the bigger budgets in the Champ to "little old QPR, just lucky to be there" in such a short space of time |
Just going to throw it out there though, he has a better points per game ratio than Marti this season.
He wasn’t for me, and i’m glad we got Marti when we did, but I genuinely believe that the myth overtook the man. |  | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 12:58 - Nov 20 with 2582 views | sparkey |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 12:31 - Nov 20 by GaryHaddock |
Just going to throw it out there though, he has a better points per game ratio than Marti this season.
He wasn’t for me, and i’m glad we got Marti when we did, but I genuinely believe that the myth overtook the man. |
But if we based Marti just on this season then we'd all think he wasn't good enough. The fact is he worked wonders last season so has credit in the bank. Ainsworth was unconvincing to say the least in the first season, and catastrophic the following. |  | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 13:10 - Nov 20 with 2520 views | GaryHaddock |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 12:58 - Nov 20 by sparkey |
But if we based Marti just on this season then we'd all think he wasn't good enough. The fact is he worked wonders last season so has credit in the bank. Ainsworth was unconvincing to say the least in the first season, and catastrophic the following. |
Ok, but it’s often forgotten that Ainsworth also got some wonder results (Burnley and Watford I think) to keep us up and arguably without the resources Marti was given.
Let me be clear, it didn’t work under Ainsworth and I’m not throwing shade at Marti. I just think a lot of the criticism of GA is thinly veiled snobbery (not saying you are guilty of that) but when you compare results and take resources into account then his record wasn’t that bad. [Post edited 20 Nov 13:21]
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| Gareth Ainsworth on 13:27 - Nov 20 with 2420 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 12:31 - Nov 20 by GaryHaddock |
Just going to throw it out there though, he has a better points per game ratio than Marti this season.
He wasn’t for me, and i’m glad we got Marti when we did, but I genuinely believe that the myth overtook the man. |
I think it highlights the issue with a radical change in style and man management between coaches.
The type of motivation that GA used against Burnley worked for some of those players.
If the club cannot settle on a "type" of player and "style" of football then any coach is going to struggle to adapt his style to fit the current group of players.
It does feel like only QPR is capable of these complete collapses within a season, where a squad suddenly fall off a cliff
We've had these now under many many different managers and groups of players. The only constant is the club and owners.
Or do other clubs frequently go on record breaking streaks without winning or scoring? | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 13:42 - Nov 20 with 2360 views | GaryHaddock |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 13:27 - Nov 20 by nick_hammersmith |
I think it highlights the issue with a radical change in style and man management between coaches.
The type of motivation that GA used against Burnley worked for some of those players.
If the club cannot settle on a "type" of player and "style" of football then any coach is going to struggle to adapt his style to fit the current group of players.
It does feel like only QPR is capable of these complete collapses within a season, where a squad suddenly fall off a cliff
We've had these now under many many different managers and groups of players. The only constant is the club and owners.
Or do other clubs frequently go on record breaking streaks without winning or scoring? |
Couldn't agree more.
Coaches (and player targets) should fit the club and not the other way round. Lurching from system to system has created a sort of Frankenstein squad which doesn't work for anyone. | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 13:51 - Nov 20 with 2323 views | ted_hendrix |
I'm not 100% convinced by Martí Cifuentes, his achievement with us last season Is history and means nothing bearing In mind our current league position, It's our dreadful current league position that interests me.
Loved Ainsworth as a footballer for us and was delighted when we appointed him as our Manager, sadly I was also delighted when he got the bloody sack, that's not right and It's a shame how things worked out for him and us, my lasting memory of him was the Haka video, It was gut wrenchingly embarrassing for all concerned. I think when GA as Manager here his heart was In the right place but his coaching brain wasn't, I couldn't watch his post match Interviews he looked bloody poorly to me.
Not sure I could take another Managerial change, I seriously do not want us In League One either.
This club needs a major feel good factor and It needs It PDQ. |  |
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| Gareth Ainsworth on 13:34 - Nov 23 with 1493 views | MrSheen |
2-1 up on moneybags Birmingham with 19% possession. The old ones are the best. |  | | |
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| Gareth Ainsworth on 13:42 - Nov 23 with 1444 views | Loyalitat |
If Brum were to lose that game, then that's the end of their current manager. | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:01 - Nov 23 with 1373 views | LimehouseR |
It goes back to the other thread about playing all this possession football.
Birmingham have had 80% possession so far apparently but it's done them no good!
Good luck to Gas, I hope he succeeds there. |  | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:06 - Nov 23 with 1333 views | DannyPaddox |
3-1 !!! |  | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:23 - Nov 23 with 1276 views | MrSheen |
Just the 11 minutes of added time. | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:31 - Nov 23 with 1230 views | MrSheen |
Won it. | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:32 - Nov 23 with 1213 views | Clive_Anderson |
Nice to see him starting well after the nightmare of being here  | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:33 - Nov 23 with 1216 views | joolsyp |
90+7
“ Attempt missed. Lyndon Dykes (Birmingham City) right footed shot from the centre of the box misses to the left. Assisted by Marc Leonard following a set piece situation.” |  | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 17:53 - Nov 23 with 986 views | Damo1962 |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:33 - Nov 23 by joolsyp |
90+7
“ Attempt missed. Lyndon Dykes (Birmingham City) right footed shot from the centre of the box misses to the left. Assisted by Marc Leonard following a set piece situation.” |
And some still think he is a Championship player 😁 | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 17:58 - Nov 23 with 974 views | LazyFan |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:33 - Nov 23 by joolsyp |
90+7
“ Attempt missed. Lyndon Dykes (Birmingham City) right footed shot from the centre of the box misses to the left. Assisted by Marc Leonard following a set piece situation.” |
Dykes has still scored more for QPR than Celar this season!
And I don't even rate Dykes as a Champ player. |  |
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| Gareth Ainsworth on 18:04 - Nov 23 with 933 views | GaryHaddock |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 14:32 - Nov 23 by Clive_Anderson |
Nice to see him starting well after the nightmare of being here |
Almost as if he wasn’t the problem isn’t it. | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 18:12 - Nov 23 with 896 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 18:04 - Nov 23 by GaryHaddock |
Almost as if he wasn’t the problem isn’t it. |
Ah, Gar. I wish him well but he was dreadful here as Manager. |  |
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| Gareth Ainsworth on 18:44 - Nov 23 with 771 views | GaryHaddock |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 18:12 - Nov 23 by BrianMcCarthy |
Ah, Gar. I wish him well but he was dreadful here as Manager. |
I don’t disagree Bri, but if it goes well with Shrewsbury then we are the exception to a pretty stellar football league career. I do appreciate he’s only managed two games.
We’ve also managed to turn a 20 goal a season striker who’s played in Europe and international tournaments into a quivering Connor Washington tribute act.
I’m boring and repeating myself but I think there is a fundamental problem of culture at the club that destroys decent players and managers. | | | |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 19:45 - Nov 23 with 671 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Gareth Ainsworth on 18:44 - Nov 23 by GaryHaddock |
I don’t disagree Bri, but if it goes well with Shrewsbury then we are the exception to a pretty stellar football league career. I do appreciate he’s only managed two games.
We’ve also managed to turn a 20 goal a season striker who’s played in Europe and international tournaments into a quivering Connor Washington tribute act.
I’m boring and repeating myself but I think there is a fundamental problem of culture at the club that destroys decent players and managers. |
Sorry, understand you now. | |
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