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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. 15:10 - Jul 27 with 6859 viewsBluce_Ree

Right. Statistically, at least 50% of LFW hates rap and thinks it's some sort of bullshit where they're "just talking" but that's like your wife saying "it's just 22 men chasing a ball on a park" about football.

So, I'm starting this thread because basically I don't give a f**k about football until we're in relegation trouble.


If you think rappers have no skill or talent, try this.



Abdominal - Vicious Battle Raps



If you think rap is American pop bullshit, try this hard UK goodness.



Son of Noise - Adrenaline


If you think modern rap is rubbish.



Redman - 80 Barz.


If you want something amazing.



MF DOOM - Accordion.

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 17:21 - Jul 29 with 1477 viewsBluce_Ree

Public Enemy are great and Chuck D has one of the best voices in the genre but Brother Ali's verse is the star on this track.


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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 17:31 - Jul 29 with 1456 viewsBluce_Ree

Hoopstar: "Ah Wu Tang Clan - greatest hip hop group of all my time in my very humble opinion. What an amount of talent to come out of Staten Island...Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Method Man, RZA, GZE, ODB, Inspectah Deck. Individually and collectively, some of the best hip hop ever produced."

As good as it gets but fleetingly. That first album was great. The second album had great moments. After that I've found them pretty dull. But when they are on, they're better than anyone else.

Inspectah was my favourite. He's miles better than some of them.

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 18:34 - Jul 29 with 1393 viewsSheffieldHoop

The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 17:31 - Jul 29 by Bluce_Ree

Hoopstar: "Ah Wu Tang Clan - greatest hip hop group of all my time in my very humble opinion. What an amount of talent to come out of Staten Island...Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Method Man, RZA, GZE, ODB, Inspectah Deck. Individually and collectively, some of the best hip hop ever produced."

As good as it gets but fleetingly. That first album was great. The second album had great moments. After that I've found them pretty dull. But when they are on, they're better than anyone else.

Inspectah was my favourite. He's miles better than some of them.


I liked ODB. But as you say, very fleeting. Saw Wu-Tang at Hammersmith Apollo and found it really underwhelming, which I subsequently learned I should've gone in expecting anyway.

Best / Worst live Hip Hop shows ?

I saw Klashnekoff in Sheffield about 7 or 8 years back and tbh he was fine considering there was literally about 5 of us in the audience, and it was all a bit sad and desperate. Big Narstie was on after and somehow (Don't ask me) drew like 10x the crowd (Still pretty small time really). Obviously, Klashnekoff, even if only for The Sagas Of.... is 1 million times the artist Big Narstie is. But whatever. Also done a Roots Manuva gig at Troxy (Weird venue, kind of loved it, but unlikely to go back) where he basically forgot all his lyrics and kept disappearing off stage for reasons I wouldn't want to speculate on. Made some great music tho, so whatever, enjoy it Rodney.

One of my favourites was TaskForce at Jazz Cafe, back when I was young/stupid/energetic enough to get standing tickets. I still go occasionally, but it's upstairs only these days, with a plate of food & bottle of Savvy B. I was also in Deal Real one of the nights it seemed half of the UK Hip hop scene was there, either on the open mic or outside doing a cypher. This was after the move to Carnaby St.....So maybe not the Real Deal Real to some.....But it was to me.

"Someone despises me. That's their problem." Marcus Aurelius

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 18:40 - Jul 29 with 1399 viewsNed_Kennedys

The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 17:31 - Jul 29 by Bluce_Ree

Hoopstar: "Ah Wu Tang Clan - greatest hip hop group of all my time in my very humble opinion. What an amount of talent to come out of Staten Island...Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Method Man, RZA, GZE, ODB, Inspectah Deck. Individually and collectively, some of the best hip hop ever produced."

As good as it gets but fleetingly. That first album was great. The second album had great moments. After that I've found them pretty dull. But when they are on, they're better than anyone else.

Inspectah was my favourite. He's miles better than some of them.


Interesting: I think GZA’s Liquid Swords and Grandmasters, Ghostface’s Ironman and Raekwon’s Only Built 4 Cuban Linx are the best Wu solo albums. Ghostface’s albums with Adrian Younge are great too: Twelve Reasons To Die etc.
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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 21:05 - Jul 29 with 1367 viewsPunteR

Been listening to Jaguar Skills mixes recently.
This one is good. Old Skool Hip Hop.

Occasional providers of half decent House music.

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 21:20 - Jul 29 with 1350 viewsPunteR


Occasional providers of half decent House music.

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 21:32 - Jul 29 with 1313 viewsMetallica_Hoop




Beer and Beef has made us what we are - The Prince Regent

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 23:17 - Jul 29 with 1276 viewsFDC

Loved the Louis Slipperz mix tapes, hard to find links.to them online though. That's my hip hop taste, 90s UK stuff, bedroom beats.







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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 09:02 - Jul 30 with 1201 viewsJimmyR

The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 18:40 - Jul 29 by Ned_Kennedys

Interesting: I think GZA’s Liquid Swords and Grandmasters, Ghostface’s Ironman and Raekwon’s Only Built 4 Cuban Linx are the best Wu solo albums. Ghostface’s albums with Adrian Younge are great too: Twelve Reasons To Die etc.


If you haven’t seen it the Wu tang American saga produce by GZA is a great watch I’m about half way through the 2nd series. 1st season a bit slow with scene setting etc but it’s really getting going now

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9113406/

Agree liquid swords is brilliant
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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 09:06 - Jul 30 with 1200 viewsrobith

Absolutely love Killer Mike



Billy Woods and Kenny Segal album from last year is some magic lazy stuff too

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 10:36 - Jul 30 with 1154 viewsOrthodox_Hoop

I know this should probably go on the TV thread, but the recent Sky Documentaries series on Run DMC was superb.



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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 16:35 - Jul 30 with 1086 viewsBluce_Ree

The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 09:06 - Jul 30 by robith

Absolutely love Killer Mike



Billy Woods and Kenny Segal album from last year is some magic lazy stuff too



Yeah Killer Mike is great.

This is a great video about the progression of rap.



Worth watching even if you're not a fan.

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 17:37 - Jul 31 with 1015 viewsMonkey_Roots

The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 10:49 - Jul 28 by Discodroids

How could i forget this beauty.

"King Tito's glove", if you know you know..



PSK what does it mean?

King of New York was a classic.

Listened to Hip Hop since I was 10 (86), much more eclectic now, but Hip Hop and Dancehall are my passion. I could listen to 'Both Sides Now' by Joni Mitchel, followed by 'Nina mi Nina' by Ninjaman, followed by '6 in the morning' by Ice T... its frustrating for my kids when they are in the car :D

My car playlist for Hip Hop right now:

Sean P - Bang
Blahzay Blahzay - Pain I feel
Busta - Holla
Fallacy - Blackmarket Boy
Rah Digga - Lessons of today
Roxanne Shante - Go on girl
Lost Boyz - Rene
Geto Boys - Still
Screwball - FAYBAN
Chubb Rock - Treat 'em right
Ice Cube - No Vaseline
50 Cent - That ain't gangsta
2Pac - Can't see me
Special Ed - Got it made
Rob Base - It takes 2
Scarface - My Block
Nine - Fo'eve blunted
NWA - Appetite for destruction
Mr Lif - The Now
Jadakiss - Time's up
King Tee - Act a fool
Canibus - 100 Bars
Big L - 98 Freestyle (Ask Beavis)
Kool G Rap - On the run
Big Pun - Leatherface
Jedi Mind - Heavenly Devine
KRS One - Love's gonna get ya

Also Gotta mention Kool Keith as Dr Dooooom... a great album. No Chorus aimed at Wu.
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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 17:46 - Aug 1 with 912 viewsBluce_Ree

Kool Keith's Dr Octagon album was superb too.

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 18:16 - Aug 1 with 898 viewsHAYESBOY
















Smells like a trout farm in here

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 23:52 - Aug 2 with 817 viewsFredManRave

So much quality, so little time but here's a starter of a random 5;

So many mixes to choose from but went with this;


Subliminal. Goosebumps;


Unique Rap Voice;



Almost Golden;


The Daddy;

I've got the Power.
Poll: MOM from todays Teasing at Teesside?

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 00:03 - Aug 3 with 806 viewsnumptydumpty

Why does hip / hop or rap attract all the bad boys !!!

Wayne's world comes to mind !!! 😆

I ain't no bad boy mafiosi gangsta boy..

To me it was only ever called rap as in reality it was kinder to artists than to classify by it's sound alike title

Rap is crap and crap is rap

Walking in a "Mackie Wonderland"
Poll: Where will we finish next season ???

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 03:32 - Aug 3 with 769 viewslarsricchi

Death Grips -- very good live



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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 04:18 - Aug 4 with 698 viewsQPsyR


FKA AcidPixie

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 12:15 - Aug 4 with 619 viewsW13R

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 12:23 - Aug 4 with 614 viewsW13R




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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 12:34 - Aug 4 with 604 viewsrrrspricey

Can't have a rap thread without one of my favourite tunes of all time.

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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 12:37 - Aug 4 with 601 viewsW13R


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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 12:59 - Aug 4 with 595 viewsW13R



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The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 08:41 - Aug 9 with 406 viewsFDC

The divisive hip hop/rap thread. on 12:39 - Jul 28 by SheffieldHoop

I guess the problem with it today is how broad it all is. Hip hop will mean different things to different people. You've got the original hip hop era, followed by gangsta rap, then Crunk & more commercialism....Then we split between UK and US....UK we get Grime, then start mixing in more Drum & bass, Basslines......End up at Trap. In the US they went through that weird phase of Trap and Mumble rap which completely lost me. But I dunno if I buy the Hip Hop was better in......arguments. Every era has good & bad, and the current era has some good artists. The standard for serious artists these days is pretty high. Certainly in the UK, people like Ocean Wisdom or Loyle Carner are clearly good enough to have been around in any era. And in the US I like Kendrick Lamar more than I've ever liked Jay Z or Nas (And I like both). I found the recent beef between Kendrick and Drake deeply satisfying as its finally proven something I've been saying for 10+ years, that Kendrick is on another level while Drake is wimpy music for simple people

I find a lot of the older stuff quite overrated, from Sugarhill Gang era through to Gangsta Rap era. And some of the post 00s stuff is underrated, presumably because everybody could see the commercialism by then. And the Crunk stuff was all a bit unrelatable for us Brits.

With so much other content to consume, mainly podcasts and audiobooks, I find myself listening to less music than ever recently. And when I do I'm going through a bit of an Indie phase atm (I mean for like, the last year now) - Need to get back on it


Speaking of Pharcyde, I heard this edit on a Nightmares On Wax soundcloud 'Wax Da Box' mix years ago, but it took me absolutely ages to find it because I didn't know the name of the Marcia Aitken tune. Absolutely love this, the edit is almost too good to be true

Edit: Replied to the wrong post, someone posted about Pharcyde on Page 1!

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