| Sunaks Speech 11:54 - Oct 4 with 6026 views | SaintNick |
So is it HS 2 or not HS 2 the debate will begin, personally I think that we should never have got rid of Steam |  |
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| Sunaks Speech on 16:01 - Oct 5 with 1247 views | saint901 |
| Sunaks Speech on 13:46 - Oct 5 by Jellybaby |
It's the uniparty, there is no substantial difference between any of them, they all follow orders from above. Pick any colour you like, it won't make a difference anymore.
Sunak is just a WEF poster boy parachuted in, much like the equally vacuous Macron or Trudeau.
All diversionary stuff to keep us arguing amongst ourselves. |
Who is giving them orders please?
And is there any proof? |  | | |
| Sunaks Speech on 17:52 - Oct 5 with 1206 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Sunaks Speech on 13:17 - Oct 5 by saint22 |
What would you describe the last 13 years under their rule as then?
Have you looked around at the state of this country right now? |
The point is, are you saying that if say, the Lib Dems or the Monster Raving Loonies had been in charge we'd have had 13 years of bliss? That seemed to be the implication... |  |
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| Sunaks Speech on 18:06 - Oct 5 with 1197 views | Heisenberg |
| Sunaks Speech on 17:52 - Oct 5 by Chesham_Saint |
The point is, are you saying that if say, the Lib Dems or the Monster Raving Loonies had been in charge we'd have had 13 years of bliss? That seemed to be the implication... |
5 Prime Ministers. 1 thrown out by his own party for his lies. 1 resigned after 45 days after crashing the economy. No coherent plan for Brexit. Covid inquiry already saying it was chaos with confused planning led by a clown who partied away whilst loved ones couldn’t even see their loved ones. And now a Prime Minister not even elected by his own party screwing up HS2. Inflation and interest rates leading to a cost of living crisis all against a back drop of a party looking after their pals with unaccounted for Government contracts. If that’s not chaotic then I don’t know what is. |  |
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| Sunaks Speech on 18:12 - Oct 5 with 1193 views | saint22 |
| Sunaks Speech on 17:52 - Oct 5 by Chesham_Saint |
The point is, are you saying that if say, the Lib Dems or the Monster Raving Loonies had been in charge we'd have had 13 years of bliss? That seemed to be the implication... |
No the fact is they are not fit for purpose
So why would you back someone so useless? | | | |
| Sunaks Speech on 08:05 - Oct 6 with 1125 views | Jellybaby |
| Sunaks Speech on 16:01 - Oct 5 by saint901 |
Who is giving them orders please?
And is there any proof? |
The orders come down from the financial oligarchy through organisations like WEF, UN, Bilderberg or other shady “by invitation only” groups, in fact any institution that is saying “local problems need global solutions”.
This is the approach of the New World Order as outlined in The Great Reset. Agenda 21 and Agenda 30, the sustainable development goals are pointers of what to expect and are helping to impoverish the masses through unattainable net zero goals, while THEY (the hierarchy extorting you) ride around in their private jets. Covid and climate are just 2 examples of a global lockstep approach.
As others have said 13 years of Conservative rule has been terrible, but if it had been Labour or Liberal would it have been markedly different? No, because they are purely administrators of rules being made way above their pay grade. | |
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| Sunaks Speech on 10:12 - Oct 6 with 1092 views | Bridders2 |
What a mess, if only Corbyn had got in and dealt with the covid pandemic and Ukraine. | | | |
| Sunaks Speech on 13:10 - Oct 6 with 1024 views | benalisbroom |
All but a measly seven miles of the London to Birmingham line needed to be tunnelled - thus the cost increase. Why's that then? Nearly the entire route cuts through Conservative constituencies, with each fearful MP leaning on Westminster to ensure that their back yard wasn't exposed to an unsightly rail line. Not exactly corruption on the scale of PPE, but an illuminating anecdote which brings to light the priorities of the party. | | | |
| Sunaks Speech on 13:27 - Oct 6 with 1014 views | Southamptonfan |
Politics is in a mess, the country is in a mess. Things are so bad, that Labour will win the next election by a country mile simply because "it can't be any worse". I'm fed up of hearing whether we have 100 genders or whether a woman is woman or whether we build a trainline for business people to get to London half an hour earlier. The issue is though, where is Starmer???
He should be absolutely hammering home what is happening in this country and stating his views. Can't get a doctor's appointment, can't see the dentist, strikes, corruption, streets like war zones, immigration totally out of control need I go on. He is no Tony Blair and comes across as laid back, aloof and not very strong. So what is he going to do about it if and when becomes PM. I haven't got a f@cking clue. Therein lies the problem. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 13:31]
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| Sunaks Speech on 18:26 - Oct 6 with 982 views | saintmark1976 |
| Sunaks Speech on 13:27 - Oct 6 by Southamptonfan |
Politics is in a mess, the country is in a mess. Things are so bad, that Labour will win the next election by a country mile simply because "it can't be any worse". I'm fed up of hearing whether we have 100 genders or whether a woman is woman or whether we build a trainline for business people to get to London half an hour earlier. The issue is though, where is Starmer???
He should be absolutely hammering home what is happening in this country and stating his views. Can't get a doctor's appointment, can't see the dentist, strikes, corruption, streets like war zones, immigration totally out of control need I go on. He is no Tony Blair and comes across as laid back, aloof and not very strong. So what is he going to do about it if and when becomes PM. I haven't got a f@cking clue. Therein lies the problem. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 13:31]
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Q. “ where is Starmer??? “ you ask Southamptonfan.
A. Leading a party 18/21 points ahead in the polls, celebrating yesterday’s Scottish bye election victory and probably wondering how on earth the Tories have managed to get themselves into a position where after 13 years of being in power they now own all of the problems you identify. | |
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| Sunaks Speech on 18:39 - Oct 6 with 977 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sunaks Speech on 18:26 - Oct 6 by saintmark1976 |
Q. “ where is Starmer??? “ you ask Southamptonfan.
A. Leading a party 18/21 points ahead in the polls, celebrating yesterday’s Scottish bye election victory and probably wondering how on earth the Tories have managed to get themselves into a position where after 13 years of being in power they now own all of the problems you identify. |
Please tell me what his policies are to sort out all of these problems. What will labour do about immigration. Will I be able to get a doctor's appointment within a week under Labour? Will I be able to see a dentist? Will they do something about gangs roaming the streets and stabbing people to death daily? If so what? Please tell me if you know because I can't see what their plans are. | |
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| Sunaks Speech on 18:50 - Oct 6 with 968 views | Heisenberg |
| Sunaks Speech on 18:39 - Oct 6 by Southamptonfan |
Please tell me what his policies are to sort out all of these problems. What will labour do about immigration. Will I be able to get a doctor's appointment within a week under Labour? Will I be able to see a dentist? Will they do something about gangs roaming the streets and stabbing people to death daily? If so what? Please tell me if you know because I can't see what their plans are. |
If you are a Conservative voter then you have nothing to fear from a Starmer Government. He’s no socialist. Expect more of the same without the chaos of the Truss Johnson era. | |
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| Sunaks Speech on 19:21 - Oct 6 with 955 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sunaks Speech on 18:50 - Oct 6 by Heisenberg |
If you are a Conservative voter then you have nothing to fear from a Starmer Government. He’s no socialist. Expect more of the same without the chaos of the Truss Johnson era. |
I will vote for any party that promises to cut down the amount traffic outside my house every morning (and therefore stop spoiling every last bit of countryside by building on it) so that I can get to work without having to leave my house at 3am.
I will vote for any party that stops putting hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants in five star hotels, that we have to pay for, whilst our own homeless live on the streets.
I will vote for a party that enables me and all to see a doctor on the day of being ill, not 5 weeks later when the illness has either gone or your dead. Likewise, seeing a dentist.
I will vote for any party that stops telling what I should think or what opinion I should have.
I will vote for a party that stops pussyfooting around with shoplifters, gangs and chaos on the streets. I really can't see who that is. None of the parties have told us what they will do to sort out these issues, so I might vote for monster raving loony party. I might as well. | |
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| Sunaks Speech on 20:11 - Oct 6 with 937 views | saintmark1976 |
| Sunaks Speech on 19:21 - Oct 6 by Southamptonfan |
I will vote for any party that promises to cut down the amount traffic outside my house every morning (and therefore stop spoiling every last bit of countryside by building on it) so that I can get to work without having to leave my house at 3am.
I will vote for any party that stops putting hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants in five star hotels, that we have to pay for, whilst our own homeless live on the streets.
I will vote for a party that enables me and all to see a doctor on the day of being ill, not 5 weeks later when the illness has either gone or your dead. Likewise, seeing a dentist.
I will vote for any party that stops telling what I should think or what opinion I should have.
I will vote for a party that stops pussyfooting around with shoplifters, gangs and chaos on the streets. I really can't see who that is. None of the parties have told us what they will do to sort out these issues, so I might vote for monster raving loony party. I might as well. |
Southamptonfan, when the time comes if you do actually vote for The Monster Raving Loonies such a decision on your part may well be highly appropriate. | |
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| Sunaks Speech on 20:27 - Oct 6 with 932 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sunaks Speech on 20:11 - Oct 6 by saintmark1976 |
Southamptonfan, when the time comes if you do actually vote for The Monster Raving Loonies such a decision on your part may well be highly appropriate. |
https://www.loonyparty.com/about/policy-proposals/
There is lot more sense here than main political parties. Silent fireworks seems like such a good idea. At least they have announced what they would do if we had a Monster Raving Loony party Prime Minister. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 20:29]
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| Sunaks Speech on 20:43 - Oct 6 with 925 views | dirk_doone |
| Sunaks Speech on 20:27 - Oct 6 by Southamptonfan |
https://www.loonyparty.com/about/policy-proposals/
There is lot more sense here than main political parties. Silent fireworks seems like such a good idea. At least they have announced what they would do if we had a Monster Raving Loony party Prime Minister. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 20:29]
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I thought we already had one: Boris. |  |
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| Sunaks Speech on 09:51 - Oct 7 with 862 views | Bridders2 |
| Sunaks Speech on 18:39 - Oct 6 by Southamptonfan |
Please tell me what his policies are to sort out all of these problems. What will labour do about immigration. Will I be able to get a doctor's appointment within a week under Labour? Will I be able to see a dentist? Will they do something about gangs roaming the streets and stabbing people to death daily? If so what? Please tell me if you know because I can't see what their plans are. |
He won't do anything about immigration, he's silent on the matter, and under Labour its always got worse.
They'll relax stop and search so knife crime will increase.They had no money in the locker to deal with the 2008 financial crisis because they spent it all, and They'll take over where they left off. Lots to look forward to. | | | |
| Sunaks Speech on 10:09 - Oct 7 with 845 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sunaks Speech on 09:51 - Oct 7 by Bridders2 |
He won't do anything about immigration, he's silent on the matter, and under Labour its always got worse.
They'll relax stop and search so knife crime will increase.They had no money in the locker to deal with the 2008 financial crisis because they spent it all, and They'll take over where they left off. Lots to look forward to. |
Crime, immigration and ambulances not turning up have all got worse under the Conservatives. Banning smoking, lockdowns, gender neutral toilets, putting illegal immigrants in five star hotels with record levels of immigration, cities taken over by gangs, the highest taxes ever - are all non Conservative policies implemented under the Conservatives. Confusing right??? So the Conservatives arn't Conservatives any more. I actually think Sunak comes across very well and is much calmer and down to earth than his chaotic predecessors. But the country is in a state. Immigration can't get any worse. We just let everyone in and put them in 5 star hotels. What would Labour do, put them in 6 star hotels? None of us know do we so what are voting for anymore?
So we look to Labour. Starmer seems ok, a family man seems sensible and sound but he's dull and doesn't tell us what he's about. I agree with what you say and back to my original point, nobody has told me what Labour will do because we don't know and the Conservatives have already implemented some of the most left wing policies ever. Starmer doesn't know if a woman is woman, and doesn't think he would reverse HS2, and when asked what Labour would do in power after the Scottish bi-election he just said "What a great day today". Lots to look forward to indeed. [Post edited 7 Oct 2023 10:17]
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| Sunaks Speech on 13:18 - Oct 7 with 809 views | 1885_SFC |
| Sunaks Speech on 10:09 - Oct 7 by Southamptonfan |
Crime, immigration and ambulances not turning up have all got worse under the Conservatives. Banning smoking, lockdowns, gender neutral toilets, putting illegal immigrants in five star hotels with record levels of immigration, cities taken over by gangs, the highest taxes ever - are all non Conservative policies implemented under the Conservatives. Confusing right??? So the Conservatives arn't Conservatives any more. I actually think Sunak comes across very well and is much calmer and down to earth than his chaotic predecessors. But the country is in a state. Immigration can't get any worse. We just let everyone in and put them in 5 star hotels. What would Labour do, put them in 6 star hotels? None of us know do we so what are voting for anymore?
So we look to Labour. Starmer seems ok, a family man seems sensible and sound but he's dull and doesn't tell us what he's about. I agree with what you say and back to my original point, nobody has told me what Labour will do because we don't know and the Conservatives have already implemented some of the most left wing policies ever. Starmer doesn't know if a woman is woman, and doesn't think he would reverse HS2, and when asked what Labour would do in power after the Scottish bi-election he just said "What a great day today". Lots to look forward to indeed. [Post edited 7 Oct 2023 10:17]
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Which is exactly why I, and millions like me, won't waste our time and can't be arsed voting in the next general election. It's a pointless exercise that will change nothing.
I'd wager a few quid on it being a pathetic turn out by voters who are pig sick of politics & politicians. |  |
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| Sunaks Speech on 13:46 - Oct 7 with 802 views | Southamptonfan |
| Sunaks Speech on 13:18 - Oct 7 by 1885_SFC |
Which is exactly why I, and millions like me, won't waste our time and can't be arsed voting in the next general election. It's a pointless exercise that will change nothing.
I'd wager a few quid on it being a pathetic turn out by voters who are pig sick of politics & politicians. |
I will probably will just vote Monster Loony party because it sums up the state of politics. None of the others represent me. | |
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| Sunaks Speech on 14:18 - Oct 7 with 782 views | professor_peach |
As Tony Benn said, the way to control the population is to make them scared and demoralised. A population that is educated, healthy and confident is far more difficult to control. |  | | |
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