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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? 11:41 - Nov 14 with 9825 viewsSandanista

Islam, Christianity and Judaism have largely the same roots and basis-religions that dictate your choices in life.These religions have caused much conflict and bloodshed, usually between each other or sects of the same religion.

Should all religion be banned and we move forward with humanist and general moral principles? Or should we allow religion if fully tolerant and supportive of others-as some forms of Buddishm and elements of Sikh doctrine. Or should we ban the notion of all 'sky faries'.

Interested to know thoughts.
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 01:04 - Nov 28 with 1189 viewsDr_Parnassus

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 12:38 - Nov 27 by Brynmill_Jack

Venezuela was very happy until their “Maidan”. USA interferes again to asset strip another country.


Very happy in what way?

Much of the population has been hunting and eating street rats for the best part of a decade now. Since the US intervention extreme poverty has decreased, but the socialism there destroyed the country and it’s economic outlook.



How many Venezuelans are desperate to get into America?

How many Americans are desperate to get into Venezuela?

Therein lies your answer.

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 08:34 - Nov 28 with 1145 viewsonehunglow

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 01:04 - Nov 28 by Dr_Parnassus

Very happy in what way?

Much of the population has been hunting and eating street rats for the best part of a decade now. Since the US intervention extreme poverty has decreased, but the socialism there destroyed the country and it’s economic outlook.



How many Venezuelans are desperate to get into America?

How many Americans are desperate to get into Venezuela?

Therein lies your answer.


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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 23:45 - Dec 3 with 1093 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 21:10 - Nov 18 by Wingstandwood

Aye, not many realise that Jesus in the Koran is but Mary's son, and not God's!

Indeed In that book he has only prophet status. I only found that out many years after leaving school. Crazy to think that even when it comes to a central figure like Jesus Christ that some Christian denominations cannot even find agreement about him amongst themselves.....Then the Muslims enter the fray by signing up to make matters even worse.

I only found by reading this topic-thread that Baptists are rather adverse to the cross and crucifixes just like Count Dracula. It's crazy the way that people of religion can argue against each others beliefs!!!! Only God knows who is batting for the right side?


Non conformism, especially in Wales has more in common with modern (Synagogue) Judaism than Christianity. Chapels definitely resemble synagogues more than Churches.

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:19 - Dec 5 with 1050 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 01:04 - Nov 28 by Dr_Parnassus

Very happy in what way?

Much of the population has been hunting and eating street rats for the best part of a decade now. Since the US intervention extreme poverty has decreased, but the socialism there destroyed the country and it’s economic outlook.



How many Venezuelans are desperate to get into America?

How many Americans are desperate to get into Venezuela?

Therein lies your answer.


Very sad considering Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves but production has failed every year since the left wing Government nationalised it. Now producing less than half the oil they use to due to no investment and Government mismanagement.

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 23:27 - Dec 7 with 1019 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:19 - Dec 5 by felixstowe_jack

Very sad considering Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves but production has failed every year since the left wing Government nationalised it. Now producing less than half the oil they use to due to no investment and Government mismanagement.


Better that than have the USA steal it and give them nothing. You’re naive as feck fair play

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 01:19 - Dec 31 with 972 viewsExeterjack

Evidently my position on this question has me swimming against a very strong tide of opinion but here's my two penneth, my personal experience. However before I share my story I'd like to use a quote from Chuck Colson who was a powerful player in the Nixon presidency and sent to prison through his involvement with watergate, here's what he says about the resurrection of Jesus.

"I know the resurrection is a fact, and watergate proved it to me. How? Because 12 men testified they had seen Jesus raised from the dead. Then they proclaimed that truth for forty years never once denying it. Everyone was tortured, beaten, stoned, put in prison, they would not have endured that if it were not true. Watergate embroiled 12 of the most powerful men in the world, and they couldn't kelp a lie for three weeks. You're telling me 12 Apostles kept a lie for forty years? Absolutely impossible"

I had gone to church as a child, I had heard the bible accounts and I had no cause to disbelieve them. If there was a God he would easily be capable of things I was told He did. As I grew into my mid-teens I found it all rather lifeless and boring. There were other things far more attractive and exciting for me to explore… and at around 15 years of age I decided I would not waste my time any longer going to church. I had decided that Christianity was for weak and feeble people who need a crutch. As for me I was young, Fit, strong, able, and confident what could possibly go wrong me versus the world was a fair fight and I was going to do my own thing.
For over twenty years that was what I did…my own thing, I lived for myself, I manipulated people I was very kind and caring to those who could benefit me and showed myself to be diligent and hard working to decision makers in my life. I schemed and dodged and dealt often unscrupulously with people but at the centre of it all was ME. I got Married when I was 23 my wife and I had two beautiful girls and life was great. At 32 I had my own business and all was well.
I had, as I saw it no need of God even if there was one I had sort of proven myself as I thought. Then one early summer day aged 37 I found myself at work involved in a mundane task and my mind began to wander. I found myself thinking: Is there A God? And if there is a God what difference does this make to me? All I had heard as a young teenager came back to my mind about all that God had done for me through His Son Jesus Christ and I just wanted to dismiss all this from my mind. I knew somehow there was a cost to this, I knew if I conceded that God was real things would have to change. I could not dismiss these things from my mind they carried too much importance it seemed. I stopped what I was doing made a coffee, lit a cigarette and sat out in the early summer sunshine. I was taken up by the beauty of creation all around me and had to concede that I and all I see cannot be the result of billions of uncontrolled random events but rather someone made all this! There is a God in Heaven seemed a very reasonable thing to conclude from the evidence as presented to me.
God had very kindly troubled me to think on these things and He continued to deal with me through the rest of that summer. I began to feel great conviction and guilt about how I was living my life. I was selfish and manipulative and I could now see it plainly before my eyes. My language and conversation were tainted with obscenities and things which you would not repeat in any half decent company. I was dirty and needed to be clean. After three months of wrestling I came to saving faith in Christ, He alone could deal with my soul and my need to be right with God. I have been a Christian for over 25 years now, the Lord has been kind .It has not been easy, I have been subject to all the trials and heart aches of life, but I have obtained mercy, I have his help. Above all I have peace with God.
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 01:21 - Dec 31 with 972 viewsExeterjack

Sorry I posted a duplicate.
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 09:13 - Dec 31 with 932 viewsfbreath

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 01:19 - Dec 31 by Exeterjack

Evidently my position on this question has me swimming against a very strong tide of opinion but here's my two penneth, my personal experience. However before I share my story I'd like to use a quote from Chuck Colson who was a powerful player in the Nixon presidency and sent to prison through his involvement with watergate, here's what he says about the resurrection of Jesus.

"I know the resurrection is a fact, and watergate proved it to me. How? Because 12 men testified they had seen Jesus raised from the dead. Then they proclaimed that truth for forty years never once denying it. Everyone was tortured, beaten, stoned, put in prison, they would not have endured that if it were not true. Watergate embroiled 12 of the most powerful men in the world, and they couldn't kelp a lie for three weeks. You're telling me 12 Apostles kept a lie for forty years? Absolutely impossible"

I had gone to church as a child, I had heard the bible accounts and I had no cause to disbelieve them. If there was a God he would easily be capable of things I was told He did. As I grew into my mid-teens I found it all rather lifeless and boring. There were other things far more attractive and exciting for me to explore… and at around 15 years of age I decided I would not waste my time any longer going to church. I had decided that Christianity was for weak and feeble people who need a crutch. As for me I was young, Fit, strong, able, and confident what could possibly go wrong me versus the world was a fair fight and I was going to do my own thing.
For over twenty years that was what I did…my own thing, I lived for myself, I manipulated people I was very kind and caring to those who could benefit me and showed myself to be diligent and hard working to decision makers in my life. I schemed and dodged and dealt often unscrupulously with people but at the centre of it all was ME. I got Married when I was 23 my wife and I had two beautiful girls and life was great. At 32 I had my own business and all was well.
I had, as I saw it no need of God even if there was one I had sort of proven myself as I thought. Then one early summer day aged 37 I found myself at work involved in a mundane task and my mind began to wander. I found myself thinking: Is there A God? And if there is a God what difference does this make to me? All I had heard as a young teenager came back to my mind about all that God had done for me through His Son Jesus Christ and I just wanted to dismiss all this from my mind. I knew somehow there was a cost to this, I knew if I conceded that God was real things would have to change. I could not dismiss these things from my mind they carried too much importance it seemed. I stopped what I was doing made a coffee, lit a cigarette and sat out in the early summer sunshine. I was taken up by the beauty of creation all around me and had to concede that I and all I see cannot be the result of billions of uncontrolled random events but rather someone made all this! There is a God in Heaven seemed a very reasonable thing to conclude from the evidence as presented to me.
God had very kindly troubled me to think on these things and He continued to deal with me through the rest of that summer. I began to feel great conviction and guilt about how I was living my life. I was selfish and manipulative and I could now see it plainly before my eyes. My language and conversation were tainted with obscenities and things which you would not repeat in any half decent company. I was dirty and needed to be clean. After three months of wrestling I came to saving faith in Christ, He alone could deal with my soul and my need to be right with God. I have been a Christian for over 25 years now, the Lord has been kind .It has not been easy, I have been subject to all the trials and heart aches of life, but I have obtained mercy, I have his help. Above all I have peace with God.


The brainwashing of being told year after year that you are sinful and unclean stays with you for ever. They subjected you to the manipulation you said you used to use.

You go Look at a child dying of cancer in the eye and tell them they are sick because they are sinful. Religion is a dangerous game.

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 09:29 - Dec 31 with 918 viewsSirjohnalot

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 09:13 - Dec 31 by fbreath

The brainwashing of being told year after year that you are sinful and unclean stays with you for ever. They subjected you to the manipulation you said you used to use.

You go Look at a child dying of cancer in the eye and tell them they are sick because they are sinful. Religion is a dangerous game.


I was brought up in the Church and it has always given my parents and continue to give the a lot of joy and comfort, my dad lost his brother and mum within days of each other and it helped him a lot. My parents are the kindest, most helpful people I’ve ever met, they’d would do anything for anyone and my brother and I had the most wonderful childhood you could ever want (not money but love). However, they’d would’ve been the same, religion or not.

When I was about 12, I started to wonder why you had to believe in God to heaven, why, if you spent your life, say in Africa, looking after orphans but didn’t believe in God, would you go to hell, but if you loved an awful life and asked for forgiveness before you died, you spent your life in paradise. That from the at age, didn’t sit well with me, plus the obvious question as Stephen Fry was asked what he’d ask if he met God ‘kids with cancer ? Really ?

I was in Sunday School when I was around 11 and were talking about Judas and how evil he was. I asked that if Jesus was born to die for us and that was the purpose of his being born, then surely judas purpose was to betray him, and therefore he had no free will or choice so should not be hated as without him, Jesus wouldn’t have been crucified. I was not to be naughty,

I don’t believe that religion is the cause of all the wars, the people who do these things, use it as an excuse for the evil ways, apartheid was justified by some obscure verse in the bible as it the awful way women are treated in various parts of the world.

The foundations of most religions is peace, but any ancient text can be quoted to pretty much do what you want it say.

For me religion simply is ‘be excellent to one another ‘. That’s it, no condemnation, just don’t be an arse.
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:24 - Dec 31 with 895 viewsonehunglow

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 09:13 - Dec 31 by fbreath

The brainwashing of being told year after year that you are sinful and unclean stays with you for ever. They subjected you to the manipulation you said you used to use.

You go Look at a child dying of cancer in the eye and tell them they are sick because they are sinful. Religion is a dangerous game.


From birth to death ,religion is always omnipresent.
It appeals to Man’s insecurity

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:26 - Dec 31 with 894 viewsonehunglow

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 09:13 - Dec 31 by fbreath

The brainwashing of being told year after year that you are sinful and unclean stays with you for ever. They subjected you to the manipulation you said you used to use.

You go Look at a child dying of cancer in the eye and tell them they are sick because they are sinful. Religion is a dangerous game.


Everyone should read this quite brilliant riposte to one who has been brainwashed

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:28 - Dec 31 with 892 viewsonehunglow

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 01:19 - Dec 31 by Exeterjack

Evidently my position on this question has me swimming against a very strong tide of opinion but here's my two penneth, my personal experience. However before I share my story I'd like to use a quote from Chuck Colson who was a powerful player in the Nixon presidency and sent to prison through his involvement with watergate, here's what he says about the resurrection of Jesus.

"I know the resurrection is a fact, and watergate proved it to me. How? Because 12 men testified they had seen Jesus raised from the dead. Then they proclaimed that truth for forty years never once denying it. Everyone was tortured, beaten, stoned, put in prison, they would not have endured that if it were not true. Watergate embroiled 12 of the most powerful men in the world, and they couldn't kelp a lie for three weeks. You're telling me 12 Apostles kept a lie for forty years? Absolutely impossible"

I had gone to church as a child, I had heard the bible accounts and I had no cause to disbelieve them. If there was a God he would easily be capable of things I was told He did. As I grew into my mid-teens I found it all rather lifeless and boring. There were other things far more attractive and exciting for me to explore… and at around 15 years of age I decided I would not waste my time any longer going to church. I had decided that Christianity was for weak and feeble people who need a crutch. As for me I was young, Fit, strong, able, and confident what could possibly go wrong me versus the world was a fair fight and I was going to do my own thing.
For over twenty years that was what I did…my own thing, I lived for myself, I manipulated people I was very kind and caring to those who could benefit me and showed myself to be diligent and hard working to decision makers in my life. I schemed and dodged and dealt often unscrupulously with people but at the centre of it all was ME. I got Married when I was 23 my wife and I had two beautiful girls and life was great. At 32 I had my own business and all was well.
I had, as I saw it no need of God even if there was one I had sort of proven myself as I thought. Then one early summer day aged 37 I found myself at work involved in a mundane task and my mind began to wander. I found myself thinking: Is there A God? And if there is a God what difference does this make to me? All I had heard as a young teenager came back to my mind about all that God had done for me through His Son Jesus Christ and I just wanted to dismiss all this from my mind. I knew somehow there was a cost to this, I knew if I conceded that God was real things would have to change. I could not dismiss these things from my mind they carried too much importance it seemed. I stopped what I was doing made a coffee, lit a cigarette and sat out in the early summer sunshine. I was taken up by the beauty of creation all around me and had to concede that I and all I see cannot be the result of billions of uncontrolled random events but rather someone made all this! There is a God in Heaven seemed a very reasonable thing to conclude from the evidence as presented to me.
God had very kindly troubled me to think on these things and He continued to deal with me through the rest of that summer. I began to feel great conviction and guilt about how I was living my life. I was selfish and manipulative and I could now see it plainly before my eyes. My language and conversation were tainted with obscenities and things which you would not repeat in any half decent company. I was dirty and needed to be clean. After three months of wrestling I came to saving faith in Christ, He alone could deal with my soul and my need to be right with God. I have been a Christian for over 25 years now, the Lord has been kind .It has not been easy, I have been subject to all the trials and heart aches of life, but I have obtained mercy, I have his help. Above all I have peace with God.


The most painful read ever posted on here .
You’ve been taken in mate
I feel for you.
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:46 - Dec 31 with 883 viewsSirjohnalot

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:28 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

The most painful read ever posted on here .
You’ve been taken in mate
I feel for you.
Imagination is the most powerful tool w3 have but sometimes it runs riot


You’ve got no right to say that to someone. It’s his belief and it should be respected
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:59 - Dec 31 with 879 viewsonehunglow

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:46 - Dec 31 by Sirjohnalot

You’ve got no right to say that to someone. It’s his belief and it should be respected


Well,we will will have to disagree .
I have every right .
Religion is all about create and nurturing fear in people. Right from the off ,people are indoctrinated and the Church is very adept at ensuring this fear perpetuates.

Exeter Jack is one of millions

I could have scribed that myself before I saw the light not the Light .

No religion should be respected as it is simply a faith,one of thousands . Individuals are separate from their faith although the Faith makes it hard to leave .

I stand by every syllable


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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 11:05 - Dec 31 with 871 viewsSirjohnalot

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:59 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

Well,we will will have to disagree .
I have every right .
Religion is all about create and nurturing fear in people. Right from the off ,people are indoctrinated and the Church is very adept at ensuring this fear perpetuates.

Exeter Jack is one of millions

I could have scribed that myself before I saw the light not the Light .

No religion should be respected as it is simply a faith,one of thousands . Individuals are separate from their faith although the Faith makes it hard to leave .

I stand by every syllable


Thanks and have a lovely last day of 2022.


I’m not religious but it’s about basic decency. People’s religious beliefs are important to them and it’s not polite to castigate what is very important to them. Disagree is one thing to imply that they are somehow being fooled isn’t fair
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 11:25 - Dec 31 with 867 viewsCatullus

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 10:46 - Dec 31 by Sirjohnalot

You’ve got no right to say that to someone. It’s his belief and it should be respected


Now there's a can of worms, one belief has to be respected but what about the belief stated by OHL, does that not need to be respected also?

Which beliefs are worthy of respect and which not, surely that is down to the individual?

Islamc terrorists believe they are right to kill in their gods name, should we respect that?

Christian priests have believed they can get away with molesting kids, Nuns have committed physical abuse and believed it was justified, do we respect that?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 11:46 - Dec 31 with 860 viewsonehunglow

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 11:25 - Dec 31 by Catullus

Now there's a can of worms, one belief has to be respected but what about the belief stated by OHL, does that not need to be respected also?

Which beliefs are worthy of respect and which not, surely that is down to the individual?

Islamc terrorists believe they are right to kill in their gods name, should we respect that?

Christian priests have believed they can get away with molesting kids, Nuns have committed physical abuse and believed it was justified, do we respect that?


I found Exeter jack post highly offensive Why ,because it is almost verbatim a Billy Graham sermon nobody preaches to me nor should I read such hysteria on here Jon proves my point as to how religion divides so quickly

Respect is not the domain of any religion

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 12:31 - Dec 31 with 844 viewsSirjohnalot

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 11:25 - Dec 31 by Catullus

Now there's a can of worms, one belief has to be respected but what about the belief stated by OHL, does that not need to be respected also?

Which beliefs are worthy of respect and which not, surely that is down to the individual?

Islamc terrorists believe they are right to kill in their gods name, should we respect that?

Christian priests have believed they can get away with molesting kids, Nuns have committed physical abuse and believed it was justified, do we respect that?


Of course he has a very right and religion should be strong enough to face having the mick taken out of it and be maligned but saying a post talking about how religion is important to them is ‘The most painful read ever posted on here..You’ve been taken in mate, I feel for you. ‘ is unnecessarily personal, and is having a go at the person not the religion.

No belief is necessarily deserved of respect but the person who holds it should be allowed to have it without saying he’s been taken in. OHL can say it and in the same way I can call him out on it.

On your other points, like I said above, religion is used as an excuse for those intent on doing terrible things, if there was no religion, they’d find another excuse.

I’m not religious, I simply don’t know but it’s the personal attack I didn’t like
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 12:34 - Dec 31 with 839 viewsSirjohnalot

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 11:46 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

I found Exeter jack post highly offensive Why ,because it is almost verbatim a Billy Graham sermon nobody preaches to me nor should I read such hysteria on here Jon proves my point as to how religion divides so quickly

Respect is not the domain of any religion


I don’t think religion per se divides, it’s the interpretation of it causes problems. The theoretical teachings of Jesus were said to be, essentially ‘ love each other’. Just wish that it what was taught not hatred and fear
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 13:35 - Dec 31 with 828 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 12:34 - Dec 31 by Sirjohnalot

I don’t think religion per se divides, it’s the interpretation of it causes problems. The theoretical teachings of Jesus were said to be, essentially ‘ love each other’. Just wish that it what was taught not hatred and fear


The bible was written by hundreds of people over several centuries so it’s full of different voices and contradictions. It swings wildly from thou shall not kill on one page to smiting your enemies and stoning gays to death on another. It seems to me crazy that these texts are supposed to be the infallible word of God but then people seem to just cherry pick the nice bits about loving each other and conveniently ignore the less savoury bits.

It’s a fantastic historical document. And I’ve no doubt Jesus existed and was a great philosopher and revolutionary of his time but that’s all he was. Just a man.

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 13:46 - Dec 31 with 827 viewsCatullus

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 12:31 - Dec 31 by Sirjohnalot

Of course he has a very right and religion should be strong enough to face having the mick taken out of it and be maligned but saying a post talking about how religion is important to them is ‘The most painful read ever posted on here..You’ve been taken in mate, I feel for you. ‘ is unnecessarily personal, and is having a go at the person not the religion.

No belief is necessarily deserved of respect but the person who holds it should be allowed to have it without saying he’s been taken in. OHL can say it and in the same way I can call him out on it.

On your other points, like I said above, religion is used as an excuse for those intent on doing terrible things, if there was no religion, they’d find another excuse.

I’m not religious, I simply don’t know but it’s the personal attack I didn’t like


I OBJECT M'LUD....to your very good response

I'm not religious either. My problem with the particular post is the statement that the apostles all went 40 years in the face of torture and whatever other mistreatment and none denied it or called it lies...how can anyone think that a book written and re-written so many times that even a Vicar told me you cannot take it literally, how can anybody take it literally?

And how can anyone use it as a basis for stating that this religin is 100% right and true? This book that has more contradictions than this website?

Fact is that an ardent follower of any religin or branch thereof believes their version of the religin is 100% right and true. Are they all right?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 14:01 - Dec 31 with 818 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 13:46 - Dec 31 by Catullus

I OBJECT M'LUD....to your very good response

I'm not religious either. My problem with the particular post is the statement that the apostles all went 40 years in the face of torture and whatever other mistreatment and none denied it or called it lies...how can anyone think that a book written and re-written so many times that even a Vicar told me you cannot take it literally, how can anybody take it literally?

And how can anyone use it as a basis for stating that this religin is 100% right and true? This book that has more contradictions than this website?

Fact is that an ardent follower of any religin or branch thereof believes their version of the religin is 100% right and true. Are they all right?


Jews, Muslims, Christians literally worship the same bloke. But they argue and fight over the ‘correct’ way to worship the guy. This is complete stupidity in my opinion. It is the most idiotic thing to argue about in the history of man. Catholics vs Protestants, Islam Vs Judaism. Sunni and Shia got on quite well in the seventies when they sung I got you babe but it’s all gone downhill since. A bit like Sunni just before he hit that tree I suppose.

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 14:07 - Dec 31 with 809 viewsSirjohnalot

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 13:46 - Dec 31 by Catullus

I OBJECT M'LUD....to your very good response

I'm not religious either. My problem with the particular post is the statement that the apostles all went 40 years in the face of torture and whatever other mistreatment and none denied it or called it lies...how can anyone think that a book written and re-written so many times that even a Vicar told me you cannot take it literally, how can anybody take it literally?

And how can anyone use it as a basis for stating that this religin is 100% right and true? This book that has more contradictions than this website?

Fact is that an ardent follower of any religin or branch thereof believes their version of the religin is 100% right and true. Are they all right?


Well that’s what Ricky Gervais didn’t he ? There are over a thousand Gods he just disbelieves in one less God than the Christians.

Do remember when I was a kid, one particular lay preacher on a Sunday night, I found interesting who said that the Book of Acts was written about 50 years AD. He also said that ‘virgin’ may actually mean ‘young girl’. Interesting take.
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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 18:10 - Dec 31 with 792 viewsonehunglow

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 14:01 - Dec 31 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Jews, Muslims, Christians literally worship the same bloke. But they argue and fight over the ‘correct’ way to worship the guy. This is complete stupidity in my opinion. It is the most idiotic thing to argue about in the history of man. Catholics vs Protestants, Islam Vs Judaism. Sunni and Shia got on quite well in the seventies when they sung I got you babe but it’s all gone downhill since. A bit like Sunni just before he hit that tree I suppose.


All those religions are responsible for genocide over millennia

It’s that simple


The danger is the proselytising and the fanaticism . Anyone ,like Jehovah Witnesses willing to see their children die rather than receive a blood transfusion are sick to their core. A belief that impure blood might see them miss Heaven . Think about that . Your own kids dying for a belief that is and cannot be proven.

Prosecution rests

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Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 18:39 - Dec 31 with 779 viewsSirjohnalot

Religion: a social construct for subjugation of the population? on 18:10 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

All those religions are responsible for genocide over millennia

It’s that simple


The danger is the proselytising and the fanaticism . Anyone ,like Jehovah Witnesses willing to see their children die rather than receive a blood transfusion are sick to their core. A belief that impure blood might see them miss Heaven . Think about that . Your own kids dying for a belief that is and cannot be proven.

Prosecution rests


Evil people are responsible for it, as I said above do you honestly think people who kill in the name of religion or priests who sexually assault wouldn’t do it anyway ? You can simplify all you want but it’s not right, I’m sure you’ll ‘stand by every word’ but have a think about an alternative point of view.

Those responsible for apartheid quoted a verse in the bible ‘Look not upon me, because I [am] black, because the sun hath looked upon me’ from Song of Solomon as a reason to hate non whites. They hated people other than them, without the Bible, they’d have found another reason.

People who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam would do it for political reasons (uk involvement in past wars ) as reasons.

The crusades would have been about taking land and expanding our empire. People who want to commit terrible crimes will justify it. You and I, I’m sure, have dealt with many blokes who control women and beat them up simply to control them because they’re cowards and can’t handle strong women. They aren’t religious. Many people who are religious quote the Bible (male disciples, ‘It’s better to life in damnation than with a troublesome and quarrelsome wife ‘. End result is the same. One uses religion the other doesn’t. Result the same.

Evil people will find a reason for their evil acts
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