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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 15:50 - Mar 11 with 17143 viewsJack123

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-mark-drakeford-wales-l

I cannot believe this!! Many, many people are suffering and instead of giving them hope, he chooses to give them despair.


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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 21:43 - Mar 21 with 1867 viewsJack123

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 21:36 - Mar 21 by Scotia

It's on the BBC website and lots of other places. It's not hidden.

The rest of world aren't protesting about the Police, crime and sentencing bill in the UK. That's what this protest is about, it's nothing to do with covid really.


The London protest may be on there, but believe me.. they are kicking off in many countries.

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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 09:22 - Mar 22 with 1793 viewsScotia

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-56457861

So as Prof Vallance confirmed to the Commons science committee that the Englaish roadmap was in line with the advice from Sage - who is ignoring the science now?
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 10:31 - Mar 22 with 1777 viewsexhmrc1

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 09:22 - Mar 22 by Scotia

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-56457861

So as Prof Vallance confirmed to the Commons science committee that the Englaish roadmap was in line with the advice from Sage - who is ignoring the science now?


Perhaps you need to read this. The excess deaths in Wales is the lowest in the UK for 2020 and one of the lowest in the EU. Drakeford has obviously been doing something right. That is despite having the most at risk with by far the highest percentage of over 80s and 65s. 4.1% in Wales, 5.7% Scotland and 7.8% England. Well done Drakeford and Co. Shame that the other UK leaders couldnt follow the same policies to prevent deaths elsewhere. By the way this includes the period when Wales had the highest rate in the world.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-deaths-wales-europe-ex
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 11:23 - Mar 22 with 1754 viewsScotia

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 10:31 - Mar 22 by exhmrc1

Perhaps you need to read this. The excess deaths in Wales is the lowest in the UK for 2020 and one of the lowest in the EU. Drakeford has obviously been doing something right. That is despite having the most at risk with by far the highest percentage of over 80s and 65s. 4.1% in Wales, 5.7% Scotland and 7.8% England. Well done Drakeford and Co. Shame that the other UK leaders couldnt follow the same policies to prevent deaths elsewhere. By the way this includes the period when Wales had the highest rate in the world.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-deaths-wales-europe-ex


"By the way this includes the period when Wales had the highest rate in the world."

And you say Drakeford has obviously been doing something right? That sentence alone shows he's an absolute disaster, even without the Kent variant being dominant.

Not only that he is now claiming that Sage are too optimistic.

This will be detrimental to business and the well-being of a lot of people living in Wales.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 11:25 - Mar 22 with 1750 viewscontroversial_jack

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 11:23 - Mar 22 by Scotia

"By the way this includes the period when Wales had the highest rate in the world."

And you say Drakeford has obviously been doing something right? That sentence alone shows he's an absolute disaster, even without the Kent variant being dominant.

Not only that he is now claiming that Sage are too optimistic.

This will be detrimental to business and the well-being of a lot of people living in Wales.


That post makes absolutely no sense at all.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 12:52 - Mar 22 with 1733 viewsexhmrc1

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 11:25 - Mar 22 by controversial_jack

That post makes absolutely no sense at all.


Here is the link. I hope it is working this time.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-deaths-wales-europe-ex
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 13:22 - Mar 22 with 1720 viewsWhiterockin

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 12:52 - Mar 22 by exhmrc1

Here is the link. I hope it is working this time.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-deaths-wales-europe-ex


This will give you a more accurate and detailed representation.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-excess-mortality?country=
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 13:44 - Mar 22 with 1711 viewsexhmrc1

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 13:22 - Mar 22 by Whiterockin

This will give you a more accurate and detailed representation.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-excess-mortality?country=


The graphs on that back up the article in Wales Online.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 18:42 - Mar 22 with 1645 viewslondonlisa2001

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 23:02 - Mar 20 by controversial_jack

So only young women matter? If 130k have died in the Uk, then approx 65k women have died from covid. Not including the ones who have become very sick with long term complications.

I would turn the water cannons on these protesters, whatever their cause is. Wait until it's safe and then protest all they like.


Nope.

You seem to have missed the (very simple) point being made.

A young women is far more likely to be harmed by an attack than by Covid. Therefore, for you to criticise them for holding a vigil in support of greater safety for women because of the Covid risk, makes no sense.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 19:51 - Mar 22 with 1619 viewslondonlisa2001

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 11:01 - Mar 21 by onehunglow

Apparently so.Lisa seems to be carrying the torch for men hatred and menhatred is what it is. By congregating and getting close,this virus spreads .It only takes one to infect many.

BUT, having "vigil" is more important.

It insulted the memory of a young woman cruelly and callously killed brutally and disposed of in shocking circumstances. Ive been to too many murder scenes to easily forget the sight and the smell of death,It aint pleasant. Gobbing,cussing and insulting Police Officers right up close isnt the best tribute to a lost life.
ALL that attended should be ashamed as do those supporting .

For Patel herself to get embroiled was worse and Johnson should have sacked her immediately,woman or not


I’m not carrying the torch for men hatred.

I don’t remotely hate men. Neither do the women at the vigil.

I hate men that sexually abuse, rape and murder women.

The fact you can’t tell the difference says far more about you than me.

And sending ‘hilarious’ WhatsApp messages is hardly the best tribute to a lost life is it. Or selfies with murdered bodies. Obviously insulting the police who are trying to aggressively prevent a vigil is worse...
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 20:05 - Mar 22 with 1629 viewsKilkennyjack

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 19:51 - Mar 22 by londonlisa2001

I’m not carrying the torch for men hatred.

I don’t remotely hate men. Neither do the women at the vigil.

I hate men that sexually abuse, rape and murder women.

The fact you can’t tell the difference says far more about you than me.

And sending ‘hilarious’ WhatsApp messages is hardly the best tribute to a lost life is it. Or selfies with murdered bodies. Obviously insulting the police who are trying to aggressively prevent a vigil is worse...


I totally agree with Lisa.

We must all recognise the problem with male violence towards women, or we cant deal with it.
Its that simple.

Beware of the Risen People

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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 20:08 - Mar 22 with 1608 viewslondonlisa2001

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 20:05 - Mar 22 by Kilkennyjack

I totally agree with Lisa.

We must all recognise the problem with male violence towards women, or we cant deal with it.
Its that simple.


It’s dreadful.

And has to be accepted as dreadful to improve.

Not treated as a ‘oh well, it can wait’ before being acknowledged.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 12:05 - Mar 25 with 1469 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 20:08 - Mar 22 by londonlisa2001

It’s dreadful.

And has to be accepted as dreadful to improve.

Not treated as a ‘oh well, it can wait’ before being acknowledged.


Latest polls showing labour % of votes in the senedd elections falling .
Mark Drakeford is even behind in his own seat.

Poll: Sholud Wales rollout vaccination at full speed.

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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 12:29 - Mar 25 with 1474 viewsVincent_Vega

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 12:05 - Mar 25 by felixstowe_jack

Latest polls showing labour % of votes in the senedd elections falling .
Mark Drakeford is even behind in his own seat.


GOOD! About time some of these shills in the bay started earning their keep.

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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 14:02 - Mar 25 with 1453 viewsBoundy

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 20:08 - Mar 22 by londonlisa2001

It’s dreadful.

And has to be accepted as dreadful to improve.

Not treated as a ‘oh well, it can wait’ before being acknowledged.


ah well until shall we say protests about young black kids getting slashed stabbed and murdered .Not much mileage in that though I suppose

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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 09:54 - Mar 28 with 1380 viewsWhiterockin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56551696

The Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party said in a statement: "It is the hypocrisy that stinks. As first minister, Mark Drakeford spends untold millions cutting down forests to translate all his government leaflets into Welsh.

"Yet, when he is spending his own Labour Party money, he admits it is a ridiculous waste, and sensibly just prints his message in English."
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 14:41 - Mar 28 with 1320 viewsmajorraglan

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 09:54 - Mar 28 by Whiterockin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56551696

The Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party said in a statement: "It is the hypocrisy that stinks. As first minister, Mark Drakeford spends untold millions cutting down forests to translate all his government leaflets into Welsh.

"Yet, when he is spending his own Labour Party money, he admits it is a ridiculous waste, and sensibly just prints his message in English."


According to the BBC article, Drakeford’s official material is bilingual, the literature in question was produced by a local party group, can’t see where Drakeford has actually said it’s a ridiculous waste of money.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 12:13 - Mar 29 with 1250 viewsScotia

About 25% of new cases in Wales are in Swansea. Lockdown isn't going to be finishing here anytime soon.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 13:46 - Mar 29 with 1221 viewsexhmrc1

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 14:41 - Mar 28 by majorraglan

According to the BBC article, Drakeford’s official material is bilingual, the literature in question was produced by a local party group, can’t see where Drakeford has actually said it’s a ridiculous waste of money.


I cannot see Mark Drakeford not doing something in the Welsh langauge. He is very keen on it.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 14:02 - Mar 29 with 1203 viewsexhmrc1

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 12:13 - Mar 29 by Scotia

About 25% of new cases in Wales are in Swansea. Lockdown isn't going to be finishing here anytime soon.


40% of the cases in Wales today are in Swansea or Neath Port Talbot largely due to outbreaks in Mynyddbach and Ysalyfera. Mynyddbach is the highest area in Wales and Ystalyfera 4th. It has also spread to neighbouring wards such as Penderi, Landore and Morriston and Pontardawe and Ystradgynlais from Ystalyfera. The upper Swansea Valley accounts for 60% of NPT cases and Ystradgynlais for most of the cases in Powys. Hopefully this will be rectified soon as the mobile testing units this week in Pontardawe and Ystradgynlais. The figures will probably increase this week before reducing.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/communities-wales-highest-levels-c
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 14:14 - Mar 29 with 1186 viewsWhiterockin

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 14:02 - Mar 29 by exhmrc1

40% of the cases in Wales today are in Swansea or Neath Port Talbot largely due to outbreaks in Mynyddbach and Ysalyfera. Mynyddbach is the highest area in Wales and Ystalyfera 4th. It has also spread to neighbouring wards such as Penderi, Landore and Morriston and Pontardawe and Ystradgynlais from Ystalyfera. The upper Swansea Valley accounts for 60% of NPT cases and Ystradgynlais for most of the cases in Powys. Hopefully this will be rectified soon as the mobile testing units this week in Pontardawe and Ystradgynlais. The figures will probably increase this week before reducing.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/communities-wales-highest-levels-c


Are those not the weekly cases/rates up to 23rd March so a week out of date.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 15:10 - Mar 29 with 1154 viewsexhmrc1

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 14:14 - Mar 29 by Whiterockin

Are those not the weekly cases/rates up to 23rd March so a week out of date.


Yes but even the weekly figures released to day are only for the week to 24 March. When they release the rate daily it is always 5 days out of date to allow time for the figures to come through. Tests often take days from the date they are taken to the recorded date. The daily figures show lower figures on early days of the week and rise towards the weekend as the tests taken at the weekend are actually recorded. These are the most accurate anybody publishes. The ONS are sometimes 11-17 days out of date hence why the r rate is not totally current.

Anyway on the figures just released this morning Ystalyfera had 25 Pontardawe 11 Rest of NPT 30.

Mynyddbach 26 Penderi 14 Central Swansea 12 Morriston South 11 Landore 11 Townhill 10 Llansamlet 10.

As can be seen the same principle applies.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 15:19 - Mar 29 with 1144 viewsWhiterockin

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 15:10 - Mar 29 by exhmrc1

Yes but even the weekly figures released to day are only for the week to 24 March. When they release the rate daily it is always 5 days out of date to allow time for the figures to come through. Tests often take days from the date they are taken to the recorded date. The daily figures show lower figures on early days of the week and rise towards the weekend as the tests taken at the weekend are actually recorded. These are the most accurate anybody publishes. The ONS are sometimes 11-17 days out of date hence why the r rate is not totally current.

Anyway on the figures just released this morning Ystalyfera had 25 Pontardawe 11 Rest of NPT 30.

Mynyddbach 26 Penderi 14 Central Swansea 12 Morriston South 11 Landore 11 Townhill 10 Llansamlet 10.

As can be seen the same principle applies.


I'm not knocking you, its just when weekly rates are several days behind and relatively low compared to what they were, there can be many reasons. An outbreak in a school bubble for example, with the increased testing of teachers an pupils this could be an example. Some areas are have 4 cases recorded over a week this could be one family.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 16:13 - Mar 29 with 1098 viewsexhmrc1

Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 15:19 - Mar 29 by Whiterockin

I'm not knocking you, its just when weekly rates are several days behind and relatively low compared to what they were, there can be many reasons. An outbreak in a school bubble for example, with the increased testing of teachers an pupils this could be an example. Some areas are have 4 cases recorded over a week this could be one family.


Absolutely but there is no way of having up to date figures. The problem is that test results are not always done and recorded on the day the test was done. It is sometimes days after so the delay the figure to ensure that that the result shown is correct for that date.

It has become more of a problem since the lighthouse labs have been used due to late recording and especially over weekends. The daily figures shown for tests done on the early part of the week are often lower than later in the week for that reason and hence the positive test figure fluctuates through out the week.

What is absolutely clear though is that there has been specific problems stemming from Mynyddbach and Ystalyfera and GCG. Pontardawe a few days ago had 0-2 cases in a day. Same with Penderi and Ravenhill. There was a problem of a house party in Briton Ferry but that is beginning to rectify itself. There are very few cases in Swansea West or in most of Neath Port Talbot.

We dont know why this has spread. Possibly kids going to school and infecting others. It is more likely in the Swansea Valley than Swansea as most areas go on college buses together and the same school.

Opening schools and universities on 12 April runs the risk of spread. Hence the reason Drakeford is sensible to not open open things like Hospitality until the effect is known.
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Drakeford No Back To Normal 2021 on 17:02 - Mar 29 with 1078 viewsBoundy

, The rise is because the kids have gone back to school , and nothing to do with hospitality

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