| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:36 - Sep 28 with 1264 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:32 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
I would if he based his persona on being rich and successful.
As I said before, this won’t matter to his supporters as they see not paying tax as an achievement.
However, in the climate of personality politicians a businessman who lost money running a casino is a hellava line. |
Why? Wouldn't his performance be more important than his persona? He will have more money than all of us on this forum put together that's for sure, exactly how much is his business.
Doesn't matter what side of the fence you are on, it's just personal tittle tattle really. If he has done wrong with taxes then the tax office don't discriminate, in fact they had a very long wrangle, if he hasn't then good for him.
It really doesn't make a difference to anything at all. |  |
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:40 - Sep 28 with 1257 views | Highjack |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 03:30 - Sep 11 by Glyn1 |
Personally, I do accept that he might be less well off in 2020 than he was in 2016 (I won't say poorer). At some point the amount of money you have doesn't really matter any more. I think most of us could manage on 50 million dollars or whatever, so anything above that is a bonus to be set aside for our hobbies, like running for President.
To be fair to Trump, he isn't the only one to do this because Mitt Romney was the same. |
They take a hit whilst in office but they earn very well when they leave. The Clintons are said to have made $250 million just from speeches since Bill left office. Blair charges £400k for an hour speech. It’s good work if you can get it. |  |
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:41 - Sep 28 with 1255 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:36 - Sep 28 by Dr_Parnassus |
Why? Wouldn't his performance be more important than his persona? He will have more money than all of us on this forum put together that's for sure, exactly how much is his business.
Doesn't matter what side of the fence you are on, it's just personal tittle tattle really. If he has done wrong with taxes then the tax office don't discriminate, in fact they had a very long wrangle, if he hasn't then good for him.
It really doesn't make a difference to anything at all. |
Again, I don’t think it does make a big difference. My point is that it is a newsworthy story. |  | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:45 - Sep 28 with 1249 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:40 - Sep 28 by Highjack |
They take a hit whilst in office but they earn very well when they leave. The Clintons are said to have made $250 million just from speeches since Bill left office. Blair charges £400k for an hour speech. It’s good work if you can get it. |
Isn’t it more about the lack of tax paid as opposed to earnings? | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:54 - Sep 28 with 1239 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:45 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
Isn’t it more about the lack of tax paid as opposed to earnings? |
For the last 3 and a half years he hasn't earned any money, if you remember, he is isolated from his business and donates his Presidential income to various charities of his choice.
It may be as you say "newsworthy" to the MSM, but of course the Millions the Bidens got from Ukraine, the 3.5 Million junior got from corrupt Russians and the Billions the family got from China aren't in the slightest bit newsworthy. [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 10:54]
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:55 - Sep 28 with 1237 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:45 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
Isn’t it more about the lack of tax paid as opposed to earnings? |
Tax is paid based on what you earn. | |
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:56 - Sep 28 with 1235 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:54 - Sep 28 by A_Fans_Dad |
For the last 3 and a half years he hasn't earned any money, if you remember, he is isolated from his business and donates his Presidential income to various charities of his choice.
It may be as you say "newsworthy" to the MSM, but of course the Millions the Bidens got from Ukraine, the 3.5 Million junior got from corrupt Russians and the Billions the family got from China aren't in the slightest bit newsworthy. [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 10:54]
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What about the other 6 1/2 years?
The Biden think has been discussed at length in another thread so I’ll refrain from commenting apart from saying that that’s not ok either. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:59 - Sep 28 with 1230 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:55 - Sep 28 by Dr_Parnassus |
Tax is paid based on what you earn. |
Which will be tricky for the Trump campaign to deal with because of the successful businessman narrative.
It’s been years now that his tax returns have been in the news. You can’t be surprised that now the information is available there’s a big splash? | | | |
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:03 - Sep 28 with 1225 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:59 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
Which will be tricky for the Trump campaign to deal with because of the successful businessman narrative.
It’s been years now that his tax returns have been in the news. You can’t be surprised that now the information is available there’s a big splash? |
Its not a narrative its the truth, the guy is one of the most successful businessmen in American history and one of the great success stories in world history I would suggest.
If I made a billion dollars for decades and then didn't make anything for the last decade due to various reasons, it wouldn't not make me a successful businessman.
I don't care if there is a big splash, there was a big splash when Katie Price got bigger boobs too, probably as relevant too. My point is that it is irrelevant to anything. | |
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:06 - Sep 28 with 1216 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 10:59 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
Which will be tricky for the Trump campaign to deal with because of the successful businessman narrative.
It’s been years now that his tax returns have been in the news. You can’t be surprised that now the information is available there’s a big splash? |
But there is a lot of difference between Corporate (Business) tax and personal tax.
He is business and property rich and cash poorer, like many businessmen after the financial crash.
What he pays in personal tax has little to do with his financial "worth" as you should know. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:11 - Sep 28 with 1212 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:03 - Sep 28 by Dr_Parnassus |
Its not a narrative its the truth, the guy is one of the most successful businessmen in American history and one of the great success stories in world history I would suggest.
If I made a billion dollars for decades and then didn't make anything for the last decade due to various reasons, it wouldn't not make me a successful businessman.
I don't care if there is a big splash, there was a big splash when Katie Price got bigger boobs too, probably as relevant too. My point is that it is irrelevant to anything. |
He invested his fathers money relatively well for a substantial period of time. I’ll give you that. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:16 - Sep 28 with 1211 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:06 - Sep 28 by A_Fans_Dad |
But there is a lot of difference between Corporate (Business) tax and personal tax.
He is business and property rich and cash poorer, like many businessmen after the financial crash.
What he pays in personal tax has little to do with his financial "worth" as you should know. |
Cash poorer but certainly not cash poor. $750 paid?! I wonder what % of lowest working tax payers he was in that year? | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:25 - Sep 28 with 1197 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:16 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
Cash poorer but certainly not cash poor. $750 paid?! I wonder what % of lowest working tax payers he was in that year? |
If you re-invest your earnings in business expansion you offset the taxes, I am sure that he has a very good set of accountants.
Building business empires takes a lot of investment and can go wrong at any time due to externalities as well as poor business acumen.
But his perfomance and work ethic as President is as good as any previous President. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:30 - Sep 28 with 1195 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:25 - Sep 28 by A_Fans_Dad |
If you re-invest your earnings in business expansion you offset the taxes, I am sure that he has a very good set of accountants.
Building business empires takes a lot of investment and can go wrong at any time due to externalities as well as poor business acumen.
But his perfomance and work ethic as President is as good as any previous President. |
And it’s that clever accounting that annoys people (more over here than over there it seems).
See amazon, google etc. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:34 - Sep 28 with 1193 views | Best_loser |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:03 - Sep 28 by Dr_Parnassus |
Its not a narrative its the truth, the guy is one of the most successful businessmen in American history and one of the great success stories in world history I would suggest.
If I made a billion dollars for decades and then didn't make anything for the last decade due to various reasons, it wouldn't not make me a successful businessman.
I don't care if there is a big splash, there was a big splash when Katie Price got bigger boobs too, probably as relevant too. My point is that it is irrelevant to anything. |
He has gone bust 3 times, soon to be 4
Has has lost his investors billions
His father left him a fortune, he lost it all
He is known for not paying his bills
He had to pay 30 million out when it was discovered trump university I was a con
He steals from charities
No bank will touch him, he has to borrow from dodgy Russians and turks
And this is just the start of what will emerge
He is probably the worst American businessman in HISTORY [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 11:35]
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:37 - Sep 28 with 1186 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:34 - Sep 28 by Best_loser |
He has gone bust 3 times, soon to be 4
Has has lost his investors billions
His father left him a fortune, he lost it all
He is known for not paying his bills
He had to pay 30 million out when it was discovered trump university I was a con
He steals from charities
No bank will touch him, he has to borrow from dodgy Russians and turks
And this is just the start of what will emerge
He is probably the worst American businessman in HISTORY [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 11:35]
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You missed the casino - it’s my personal favourite. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:39 - Sep 28 with 1185 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:11 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
He invested his fathers money relatively well for a substantial period of time. I’ll give you that. |
Indeed and ended up on of the most successful (if not THE) Presidents in modern US history.
Im pretty sure he couldn’t care less what people think of clever accounting, just as the likes of Andre Ayew and anyone else who earns a lot won’t care how people think of their accounts. They are personal. | |
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:40 - Sep 28 with 1183 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:34 - Sep 28 by Best_loser |
He has gone bust 3 times, soon to be 4
Has has lost his investors billions
His father left him a fortune, he lost it all
He is known for not paying his bills
He had to pay 30 million out when it was discovered trump university I was a con
He steals from charities
No bank will touch him, he has to borrow from dodgy Russians and turks
And this is just the start of what will emerge
He is probably the worst American businessman in HISTORY [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 11:35]
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Don’t be so ridiculous.
Typing things don’t make them true, which is inconvenient and frustrating I’m sure. | |
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:43 - Sep 28 with 1181 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:39 - Sep 28 by Dr_Parnassus |
Indeed and ended up on of the most successful (if not THE) Presidents in modern US history.
Im pretty sure he couldn’t care less what people think of clever accounting, just as the likes of Andre Ayew and anyone else who earns a lot won’t care how people think of their accounts. They are personal. |
Andre Ayew doesn’t set tax policy though. Apples and oranges. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:49 - Sep 28 with 1174 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:30 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
And it’s that clever accounting that annoys people (more over here than over there it seems).
See amazon, google etc. |
Have you noticed yet another UK Billionaire has moved residence to Monaco?
Jim Ratcliffe. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:50 - Sep 28 with 1174 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:43 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
Andre Ayew doesn’t set tax policy though. Apples and oranges. |
He has complied with the tax policy.
Hence why it’s nonsense “news”. | |
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:52 - Sep 28 with 1170 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:49 - Sep 28 by A_Fans_Dad |
Have you noticed yet another UK Billionaire has moved residence to Monaco?
Jim Ratcliffe. |
The prominent Brexit backer Jim Ratcliffe? Yes, yes I had.
What’s you’re point? I’m annoyed with him too. [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 11:56]
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| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:53 - Sep 28 with 1167 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:43 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
Andre Ayew doesn’t set tax policy though. Apples and oranges. |
What has President Trump's personal taxation got to do with setting tax policy?
Which by the way, prior to the pandemic has increased the wealth of the US workers along with their increase in wages. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:55 - Sep 28 with 1166 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:50 - Sep 28 by Dr_Parnassus |
He has complied with the tax policy.
Hence why it’s nonsense “news”. |
I think we’ll have to agree and disagree. We agree that it won’t impact on voting but disagree on the newsworthiness element.
I think it’s massive and will feature everywhere all the way up to the election. You’re free to argue it shouldn’t but I’m pretty confident it will. | | | |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:58 - Sep 28 with 1158 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Trump refers to US war dead as Suckers and Losers. on 11:55 - Sep 28 by Gwyn737 |
I think we’ll have to agree and disagree. We agree that it won’t impact on voting but disagree on the newsworthiness element.
I think it’s massive and will feature everywhere all the way up to the election. You’re free to argue it shouldn’t but I’m pretty confident it will. |
Of course it will the Democrats and Globalists that run the MSM will ensure that it does.
While at the same time hiding what the Bidens, FBI, DOJ, CIA and the Democrats did.
Nothing new about that. | | | |
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