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Yet more paper talk about Palace discussing buying Eze this morning. If it is all true, they do seem to be showing the most firm interest. Reckon if they up their bid to around £15m to £16m cash plus add ons to £20m we may bite. Don't think it would be a bad move for him, likely to get game time and the step up in the Prem with a mid ranking club. If he improves there then possibility of a bigger club next. Got to get a decent % sell on clause in the deal.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 14:04 - Aug 26 with 3719 views
Seems like whoever it is that Ebere goes to, they are likely to be Premier league mid to lower.
If he progresses as we all think he will, he will be picked off by a mid upper Prem team before too long, and the original purchaser will be whinging about the inequities of the distribution of monies in football.
Hope Ebere doesn't get trapped by Steve Parish asking unattainable transfer fees like Zaha
Hopefully a sell on clause negotiated from our point of view.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 14:09 - Aug 26 with 3664 views
Is it Palace for Eze? on 11:18 - Aug 26 by BazzaInTheLoft
At the time that offer was made, he was worth £12m yes.
Bazza, agree in principle that something is worth what someone else is willing to pay but it's not point in time, you have to look at it over a (short) period of time.
There's a difference between what someone is willing to pay and what they offer - in this case Eze isn't worth any more or less than he was a week ago. Palace aren't willing to pay any more or less than they were a week ago, they've just increased what they have TOLD us they are willing to pay.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 14:14 - Aug 26 with 3594 views
Is it Palace for Eze? on 13:56 - Aug 26 by Rangers67
The only relevant point and you have missed it is he is worth more than £ 14 million
That maybe your belief (hence Brian's intrinsic value argument) but it doesn't make it true. The market value comes down to what buyers are willing to pay - if the market doesn't agree with you then it can me either your perceived valuation is incorrect or the market hasn't yet caught up with your perceived intrinsic value.
What has been interesting so far is that the club are clear that they didn't need to sell Eze. Despite the Covid 19 struggles, ultimately thanks to our owners continued financial support each month. It was telling that reading some of the WHU websites they were repeating the untruth that we had to sell cheap because we were in financial trouble. That was true a couple of years ago, but now simply isnt the case. If WHU as a club had actually convinced themselves of that (perhaps some other premier clubs felt likewise) it may explain very low offers or attempts to draw out interest without actually offering a bid. That has enabled CP to steal a march on teams like WHU by rapidly recalibrating there approach when it was apparent low ball bids were just not going to work.
It would be great if that now stimulates other offers which are more favourable (I suspect that maybe more in how much us structured as upfront cash, rather than increased selling price). Ultimately a lot of this will come down to where Eze and his family will want to go. CP may work out much better for him as he probably wont need to move away from his family.
Anyway, well done Lee Hoos and co for their excellent and professional approach to this - definitely a sign of improving times.
Never knowingly understood
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 14:17 - Aug 26 with 3544 views
Is it Palace for Eze? on 14:12 - Aug 26 by Match82
Bazza, agree in principle that something is worth what someone else is willing to pay but it's not point in time, you have to look at it over a (short) period of time.
There's a difference between what someone is willing to pay and what they offer - in this case Eze isn't worth any more or less than he was a week ago. Palace aren't willing to pay any more or less than they were a week ago, they've just increased what they have TOLD us they are willing to pay.
I never said otherwise. I agree that value goes up and down.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 14:32 - Aug 26 with 3381 views
Should West Brom really have offered 17million up front then the board is duty bound to prorect the value of the club's asset thereby sending Mr Parrish "homeward to think again". Until the club confirms all-round agreement on fees, deal
Is it Palace for Eze? on 09:11 - Aug 26 by Maggsinho
Although that works both ways so if we were to spend some of the money , eg £2m for Dickie, we'd structure that deal to spend £500,000k over the four years or similar.
Except that if there's an auction for Dickie, and another club offers, say, £1m up front and £1m in 12 months time, then you'd have to re-structure your bid.
In fact, if the selling club is desperate for money, a straight £1.75m (or even £1.5m) might get the player if it was cash in hand.
With this Covid-19 business, my guess is that lots of clubs will consider a Bird in the Hand to be worth two in the (Shepherd's) Bush.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 14:48 - Aug 26 with 3208 views
Good job we appear to be getting 16 plus 3.5 possible add ons. Very fair price for someone completed untested at a higher level and who cost us nothing. And someone who gave us love ads of good memories and hopefully going with our good wishes.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 14:50 - Aug 26 with 3189 views
Good job we appear to be getting 16 plus 3.5 possible add ons. Very fair price for someone completed untested at a higher level and who cost us nothing. And someone who gave us love ads of good memories and hopefully going with our good wishes.
"Love ads!!!!!" = loads
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 15:08 - Aug 26 with 3027 views
Is it Palace for Eze? on 13:49 - Aug 26 by BrianMcCarthy
My understanding, FWIW,
It depends if there was a contract entered into between the clubs.
It may well be that all there is so far is acceptance of the offer. That in itself does not constitute a contract between the clubs. So if we reneged on the deal, we would not be in breach of an contract with Palace.
There are seven elements of Contract, two have to be in place for the Contract to be binding, so one more is needed.
So, for instance, if a deposit was exchanged, or some other form of consideration exchanged, then there now would exist a contract between the clubs (albeit not one in writing, but still binding) and then it's up to Eze if he wants to join them.
So, in short - we don't know and only about ten people do.
Exactly.
When Newcastle were selling Gascoigne, he had agreed terms and shaken hands with Sir Alex Ferguson, who then went on holiday for a week, expecting the club to finalise the paperwork while he was away.
Except that Terry Venables heard that it hadn't actually been signed and (cleverly) sent Chris Waddle back up to Newcastle to see if he could persuade Gazza to talk to Spurs, which he did, and the rest is history.
Apparently Ferguson nearly exploded when he heard!
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 15:11 - Aug 26 with 3010 views
No. Wigan accepted our offer for Kiefer Moore recently then subsequently sold him to Cardiff who made a later offer. Might p1ss Palace off a bit if he went somewhere else but I’d imagine it’s fairly common. It’s probably down to Eze at this stage as I don’t think he’ll be forced into going anywhere he doesn’t want to go.
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Wigan accepted the same bid from several clubs - the price was fixed by the administrators. Moore decided where he wanted to go.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 15:52 - Aug 26 with 2741 views
For his sake I hope he gets more game time in the 'best league in the world' than some of our recent exports to the Premiership. Freeman, Smithies and Bowler spring to mind.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 16:27 - Aug 26 with 2438 views
Is it Palace for Eze? on 16:18 - Aug 26 by Galileo
For his sake I hope he gets more game time in the 'best league in the world' than some of our recent exports to the Premiership. Freeman, Smithies and Bowler spring to mind.
and IF its Palace he will be hoping they sign someone who can actually score!
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 16:49 - Aug 26 with 2266 views
We should sell to the Palace even if WBA offers more wonga.
Why? It sends a message to clubs in the future about our players. If you really want them, make the deal happen and stop playing games. Pay the price and get on with it.
So, next time instead of a club like Palace coming in for our next Eze type player at £12m, then £14m and now £16m plus reasonable addons, they will just come in with £17m and be done with it.
Hopefully, this will catalyse Moyes into paying the full monies for Manning and whoever wants BOS to stump up. The sooner we can sell these valuable players the sooner we can spend the funds on rebuilding the squad and bring the players in that we need for the future now.
Also, in this case, Eze will want Palace as less chance of relegation compared to WBA, less pressure as others will be there to support him even if Zaha goes. Better more experienced manager, London so, no cultural relocation issues. Probably more wages too. Player would be happier to move and not feel frustrated with WBA instead.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 16:53 - Aug 26 with 2224 views
Is it Palace for Eze? on 16:49 - Aug 26 by LazyFan
We should sell to the Palace even if WBA offers more wonga.
Why? It sends a message to clubs in the future about our players. If you really want them, make the deal happen and stop playing games. Pay the price and get on with it.
So, next time instead of a club like Palace coming in for our next Eze type player at £12m, then £14m and now £16m plus reasonable addons, they will just come in with £17m and be done with it.
Hopefully, this will catalyse Moyes into paying the full monies for Manning and whoever wants BOS to stump up. The sooner we can sell these valuable players the sooner we can spend the funds on rebuilding the squad and bring the players in that we need for the future now.
Also, in this case, Eze will want Palace as less chance of relegation compared to WBA, less pressure as others will be there to support him even if Zaha goes. Better more experienced manager, London so, no cultural relocation issues. Probably more wages too. Player would be happier to move and not feel frustrated with WBA instead.
If Eze prefers Palace to WBA then no matter what the latter offers the club he will not go. Of course if they offer better personal terms then that's different. But the idea if the club had a choice they would accept the lower bid is odd.
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Is it Palace for Eze? on 17:27 - Aug 26 with 1989 views
Is it Palace for Eze? on 16:18 - Aug 26 by Galileo
For his sake I hope he gets more game time in the 'best league in the world' than some of our recent exports to the Premiership. Freeman, Smithies and Bowler spring to mind.
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