| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now 23:59 - Jan 7 with 30602 views | SgorioFruit |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 20:32 - Jan 11 with 1872 views | controversial_jack |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 20:30 - Jan 11 by Jack_Meoff |
Some links that may or may not be of interest.
The men on Israel's potential hit list. Guess who was number one? I was going to add 'with a bullet' but it's probably not appropriate.
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Who-are-the-men-on-Israels-potential-hit-list-
Netanyahu boasting about how he convinced Trump to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-recording-netanyahu-boasts-israel-convinced-tru
Republican senator Mike Lee's opinion on a recent military briefing.
'Lee says his frustration is not over Soleimani's killing.
"It was instead about the possibility of future military action against Iran. And it was on that topic they refused to make any commitment about when, whether and under what circumstances it would be necessary for the president – for the executive branch of government – to come to Congress seeking authorization for the use of military force," he says. "I find that unacceptable." '
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/09/794889264/gop-senator-calls-white-house-cavalier-
Gareth Porter writing in The American Conservative:
'The fingerprints of Pompeo are all over this provocation to war. In a striking parallel to the deception that accompanied the Gulf of Tonkin crisis in 1964–in which the American public was told about an attack on a U.S. ship that never happened, precipitating the Vietnam War–Pompeo and his allies carried out a complex deception in regard to the Soleimani hit.'
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/pompeos-gulf-of-tonkin-incident
As the age old question goes - cui bono? [Post edited 11 Jan 2020 20:33]
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The Yanks have been at it since the early 50s |  | | |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 20:36 - Jan 11 with 1861 views | Jack_Meoff |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 20:32 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
The Yanks have been at it since the early 50s |
Since at least 1953 when the democratically elected leader Mohammed Mossadegh was ousted in a joint CIA/MI6 coup. |  |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 20:39 - Jan 11 with 1854 views | theloneranger |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 19:00 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
Human rights,like Saudi , Israel and China? International observers were invited. Why would they hand over the black box to a foreign country when international protocol states that the country where the accident takes the investigation.
The US also bulldozed the site of ground zero after 9/11 and moved all the wreckage where it wasn't seen again
Iran has the death penalty , so has the USA and another 30 countries That's their business , although I don't agree with it |
"The US also bulldozed the site of ground zero after 9/11 and moved all the wreckage where it wasn't seen again" ...
The rubble was taken to Staten Island where investigators sifted through it for bone fragments, dna etc of the 1100 people still missing. This was done over years, not a few days like in Iran where it was bulldozed and buried.
Stop making things up FFS!! |  |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 20:44 - Jan 11 with 1839 views | Darran |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 20:36 - Jan 11 by Jack_Meoff |
Since at least 1953 when the democratically elected leader Mohammed Mossadegh was ousted in a joint CIA/MI6 coup. |
Stop agreeing with the prick A.  |  |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 21:09 - Jan 11 with 1805 views | Jack_Meoff |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 20:44 - Jan 11 by Darran |
Stop agreeing with the prick A. |
He's correct in this regard Daz, as he was when he said that Soleimani was in Iraq as an arbiter between Iran and the Saudis. Just saying. | |
| If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever. |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 21:12 - Jan 11 with 1802 views | Darran |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 21:09 - Jan 11 by Jack_Meoff |
He's correct in this regard Daz, as he was when he said that Soleimani was in Iraq as an arbiter between Iran and the Saudis. Just saying. |
He’s never right. The fact that he’d trust Iran before any country in the western world including his own makes him very very wrong.
He’s only saying it for attention,he’s got previous for it,lots of it. | |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:07 - Jan 11 with 1759 views | Glastonbury |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 21:12 - Jan 11 by Darran |
He’s never right. The fact that he’d trust Iran before any country in the western world including his own makes him very very wrong.
He’s only saying it for attention,he’s got previous for it,lots of it. |
Can you provide an example know all | | | |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:11 - Jan 11 with 1751 views | Jack_Meoff |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 21:12 - Jan 11 by Darran |
He’s never right. The fact that he’d trust Iran before any country in the western world including his own makes him very very wrong.
He’s only saying it for attention,he’s got previous for it,lots of it. |
It's not about trust Daz, it's about facts. Every war/occupation in the Middle East (and North Africa- Libya) since 9/11 has been based upon lies. Every one. Iran is the latest country in the crosshairs.
Trump is Netanyahu's bitch. This has been in the making for decades. Have a look at the links in my previous post. | |
| If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever. |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:12 - Jan 11 with 1748 views | Darran |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:07 - Jan 11 by Glastonbury |
Can you provide an example know all |
When you answer my question prick. | |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:16 - Jan 11 with 1744 views | Darran |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:11 - Jan 11 by Jack_Meoff |
It's not about trust Daz, it's about facts. Every war/occupation in the Middle East (and North Africa- Libya) since 9/11 has been based upon lies. Every one. Iran is the latest country in the crosshairs.
Trump is Netanyahu's bitch. This has been in the making for decades. Have a look at the links in my previous post. |
Nah there’ll never be peace in Iran. I said the same in here about the Egyptian uprising and got slaughtered for it.
Seriously were would you rather walk on your own tonight? Down a street in the capital of Iran or down a street in the capital of America. Ask your wife too.
You can’t blame America for everything even though I hope Trump dies overnight. | |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:23 - Jan 11 with 1733 views | controversial_jack |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:16 - Jan 11 by Darran |
Nah there’ll never be peace in Iran. I said the same in here about the Egyptian uprising and got slaughtered for it.
Seriously were would you rather walk on your own tonight? Down a street in the capital of Iran or down a street in the capital of America. Ask your wife too.
You can’t blame America for everything even though I hope Trump dies overnight. |
Tehran is a lot safer than Washington DC | | | |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:26 - Jan 11 with 1731 views | Darran |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:23 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
Tehran is a lot safer than Washington DC |
Oh listen to this silly ćunt. | |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:34 - Jan 11 with 1722 views | Jack_Meoff |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:16 - Jan 11 by Darran |
Nah there’ll never be peace in Iran. I said the same in here about the Egyptian uprising and got slaughtered for it.
Seriously were would you rather walk on your own tonight? Down a street in the capital of Iran or down a street in the capital of America. Ask your wife too.
You can’t blame America for everything even though I hope Trump dies overnight. |
18 months ago the discussion was about Syria. Because that was the country in the imperialist's crosshairs. Same shit. same agenda, different year. Now it's Iran. As Israel would sincerely love the destruction of that country. Paid for by US taxpayers and fought by the US military. Winner.
I have no idea why you're asking me about walking in respective capitals. My wife said Tehran though. I've booked her a flight, one way initially as it was cheaper. I'm playing it by ear.
Yes you can blame America. It doesn't matter if Trump dies overnight. He's simply the latest figurehead of the military-industrial complex, giving the proles the illusion that they live in a democracy. | |
| If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever. |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:37 - Jan 11 with 1719 views | controversial_jack |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:34 - Jan 11 by Jack_Meoff |
18 months ago the discussion was about Syria. Because that was the country in the imperialist's crosshairs. Same shit. same agenda, different year. Now it's Iran. As Israel would sincerely love the destruction of that country. Paid for by US taxpayers and fought by the US military. Winner.
I have no idea why you're asking me about walking in respective capitals. My wife said Tehran though. I've booked her a flight, one way initially as it was cheaper. I'm playing it by ear.
Yes you can blame America. It doesn't matter if Trump dies overnight. He's simply the latest figurehead of the military-industrial complex, giving the proles the illusion that they live in a democracy. |
US foreign policy doesn't change with it's presidents. | | | |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:39 - Jan 11 with 1712 views | hobo |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:23 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
Tehran is a lot safer than Washington DC |
Been to both, and you're spot on |  | | |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:42 - Jan 11 with 1706 views | Darran |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:39 - Jan 11 by hobo |
Been to both, and you're spot on |
Stop lying. | |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:44 - Jan 11 with 1703 views | Darran |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:34 - Jan 11 by Jack_Meoff |
18 months ago the discussion was about Syria. Because that was the country in the imperialist's crosshairs. Same shit. same agenda, different year. Now it's Iran. As Israel would sincerely love the destruction of that country. Paid for by US taxpayers and fought by the US military. Winner.
I have no idea why you're asking me about walking in respective capitals. My wife said Tehran though. I've booked her a flight, one way initially as it was cheaper. I'm playing it by ear.
Yes you can blame America. It doesn't matter if Trump dies overnight. He's simply the latest figurehead of the military-industrial complex, giving the proles the illusion that they live in a democracy. |
I asked you because we both know what the safest country that we’d all choose to live in is.
I needed a laugh though thank you,oh and I hope to see you soon you’ve missed some very good meetings. | |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:52 - Jan 11 with 1697 views | Catullus |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 14:25 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
It's not a question of being right or wrong.It's guesswork until the facts are out.So unless you have a crystal ball then none of us knew at the time.Anything is possible thesedays.There have been aircraft shot down and we still don't know what happened to them.
I still know that Iran is a modern country and these incidents are extremely rare, but it happened and it seems to have taken away the momentum of the conflict between Iran and the US for now. |
Iran is modern in many contexts but in a very important one they are practically stoneaged, that is to say, the people in catge are religious zealots whose views on crime and punishment, on right and wrong are very out of sync with most modern, civilised peoples beliefs.
I took this off Wiki but it's all correct as far as I know,
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in Iran.[2] Crimes punishable by death include murder; rape; child molestation; sodomy; drug trafficking; armed robbery; kidnapping; terrorism; burglary; pedophilia; homosexuality; incestuous relations; fornication; prohibited sexual relations; sexual misconduct; prostitution;[3][4] plotting to overthrow the Islamic regime; political dissidence; sabotage; arson; rebellion; apostasy; adultery; blasphemy; extortion; counterfeiting; smuggling; speculating; disrupting production; recidivist consumption of alcohol; producing or preparing food, drink, cosmetics, or sanitary items that lead to death when consumed or used; producing and publishing pornography; using pornographic materials to solicit sex; recidivist false accusation of capital sexual offenses causing execution of an innocent person; recidivist theft; certain military offenses (e. g., cowardice, assisting the enemy); "waging war against God"; "spreading corruption on Earth"; espionage; and treason.[5][6] Iran carried out at least 977 executions in 2015, at least 567 executions in 2016,[7] and at least 507 executions in 2017.[8]
Iran is believed to execute the most people per capita.[9] Iran insists that the execution numbers human rights groups allege are exaggerated, and that executions are only carried out after a lengthy judicial process. Iranian officials cite that they are fighting a large-scale drug war along its eastern borders, and the increase of drug lords and dealers causes a rise in executions.
Iran has garnered Western media attention and criticism for carrying out executions of minors, despite having signed the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which forbids executing child offenders for crimes committed under the age of 18.[10][11][12][13] Iran justifies its actions by claiming dispensation in cases where the Convention is deemed "incompatible with Islamic jurisprudence".[14] Iran has also been criticized for using stoning as capital punishment,[15] though in 2005, an Iranian judiciary spokesman strongly denied the accusations of stoning and executing minors, describing them as "propaganda against the Iranian state".[16] | |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:52 - Jan 11 with 1697 views | longlostjack |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:34 - Jan 11 by Jack_Meoff |
18 months ago the discussion was about Syria. Because that was the country in the imperialist's crosshairs. Same shit. same agenda, different year. Now it's Iran. As Israel would sincerely love the destruction of that country. Paid for by US taxpayers and fought by the US military. Winner.
I have no idea why you're asking me about walking in respective capitals. My wife said Tehran though. I've booked her a flight, one way initially as it was cheaper. I'm playing it by ear.
Yes you can blame America. It doesn't matter if Trump dies overnight. He's simply the latest figurehead of the military-industrial complex, giving the proles the illusion that they live in a democracy. |
True. All about oil and money. No way can you take the moral high ground if you back Saudi for example. What’s happening about that Kashoggi murder? All gone quiet. What a surprise. |  |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 23:00 - Jan 11 with 1687 views | Oscar10 |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:52 - Jan 11 by longlostjack |
True. All about oil and money. No way can you take the moral high ground if you back Saudi for example. What’s happening about that Kashoggi murder? All gone quiet. What a surprise. |
Not true. The USA doesn’t need Middle Eastern oil. It now produces more oil and exports more oil and gas than Saudi Arabia. | | | |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 23:02 - Jan 11 with 1684 views | hobo |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:42 - Jan 11 by Darran |
Stop lying. |
One of the nicest and most interesting countries I've been too as well! Was planning on going back towards the end of the year, but will wait for this to blow over I think | | | |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 23:04 - Jan 11 with 1681 views | controversial_jack |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 23:00 - Jan 11 by Oscar10 |
Not true. The USA doesn’t need Middle Eastern oil. It now produces more oil and exports more oil and gas than Saudi Arabia. |
It doesn't need the oil, but if it can control the supply then the prices rise which will suit the petro dollar
Part of the reason why the Us is in the middle east is, because certain countries are trying to bypass the petro dollar and use other currencies. If it spread and went worldwide the Us economy would collapse | | | |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 23:10 - Jan 11 with 1677 views | Darran |
Nobody needs oil. lol
It’s like my wife’s friend keeps saying Blair and Bush only invaded Iraq for the oil.
In the meantime her,her husband,her son and her daughter all drive cars.
There’s four of the fuçking tin heaps on their drive.
Fuçking idiot. | |
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 23:15 - Jan 11 with 1669 views | Jack_Meoff |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 22:44 - Jan 11 by Darran |
I asked you because we both know what the safest country that we’d all choose to live in is.
I needed a laugh though thank you,oh and I hope to see you soon you’ve missed some very good meetings. |
Daz a country becomes infinitely less safe when the crosshairs of the US is set upon it. Funnily enough. Glad my posts have amused you though.
Can't get to January 's meeting, will see what February 's rota brings.... [Post edited 11 Jan 2020 23:18]
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| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 23:25 - Jan 11 with 1659 views | Darran |
| It’s all kicking off in Iraq right now on 23:15 - Jan 11 by Jack_Meoff |
Daz a country becomes infinitely less safe when the crosshairs of the US is set upon it. Funnily enough. Glad my posts have amused you though.
Can't get to January 's meeting, will see what February 's rota brings.... [Post edited 11 Jan 2020 23:18]
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I completely agree the US and the UK have fuçked too much up around the world and it shouldn’t be happening. My main point was though that cuÅ„ts like Controversial_Jack who immediately jump to the defence of terrorists before knowing the facts has been proved in this thread.
Go back through it and see if you can see ‘Controversial’ saying he was wrong about his comment. | |
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