| ok - politics debate 20:43 - Dec 20 with 1723 views | basilrobbiereborn |
"In the UK, the socialist left believes it has a monopoly on compassion".
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| ok - politics debate on 22:02 - Dec 20 with 1716 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
Think this is what my cat might say is "playing with their food", but to give a serious answer no, no one has a monopoly on anything.
However, there use to be a thing called "Social Conservatism" (which many centre right European parties are), which I feel the centre right in this country has moved away from over the last few years as it's been hijacked by more Right Wing, Neo-Con, Populist, Nationalist elements. I remember a certain T May giving a speech warning about being the "Nasty Party" a few years ago.
(You could start a separate thread on "Do the Right/Right of Centre have a monopoly on patriotism?)
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| ok - politics debate on 23:26 - Dec 20 with 1707 views | basilrobbiereborn |
| ok - politics debate on 22:02 - Dec 20 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Think this is what my cat might say is "playing with their food", but to give a serious answer no, no one has a monopoly on anything.
However, there use to be a thing called "Social Conservatism" (which many centre right European parties are), which I feel the centre right in this country has moved away from over the last few years as it's been hijacked by more Right Wing, Neo-Con, Populist, Nationalist elements. I remember a certain T May giving a speech warning about being the "Nasty Party" a few years ago.
(You could start a separate thread on "Do the Right/Right of Centre have a monopoly on patriotism?)
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Not bored exactly. Just taking a break from baiting trolls on Twitter. | |
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| ok - politics debate on 08:23 - Dec 21 with 1694 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| ok - politics debate on 23:26 - Dec 20 by basilrobbiereborn |
Not bored exactly. Just taking a break from baiting trolls on Twitter. |
Twitter, the only place that can make Burnley seem cultural, educated, knowledgeable, diverse, friendly and cosmopolitan. | |
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| ok - politics debate on 08:51 - Dec 21 with 1687 views | ROTTWEILERS |
Disagree with the op but the ones that do think that way are certainly problematic. There is a really arrogant streak that runs through some parts of the Labour Party grass roots. Same as many on the right I suppose. |  |
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| ok - politics debate on 09:11 - Dec 21 with 1684 views | spell_chekker |
| ok - politics debate on 08:51 - Dec 21 by ROTTWEILERS |
Disagree with the op but the ones that do think that way are certainly problematic. There is a really arrogant streak that runs through some parts of the Labour Party grass roots. Same as many on the right I suppose. |
There's more than a grain of truth in the O/P.
This 'caring' cliché that Labour have plays against them. 'Caring' nd not capable of making the tough decisions. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 9:13]
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| ok - politics debate on 09:38 - Dec 21 with 1676 views | Lala |
| ok - politics debate on 09:11 - Dec 21 by spell_chekker |
There's more than a grain of truth in the O/P.
This 'caring' cliché that Labour have plays against them. 'Caring' nd not capable of making the tough decisions. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 9:13]
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There’s a lot of truth in the OP.
When I was younger I thought I was a nicer person than anyone who voted Tory. This was simply because I voted Labour as I was told I should whilst also being told that’s what the good people do. I had no idea about how the economy really worked or about other associated issues that triggered cause and effect reactions on society as a whole. I was politically super naive, but assumed I was right and very kind with it 😌
I do more for society in terms of charity and support than I ever did back then, and this year I voted Tory.
You can’t attribute empathy and kindness to a person simply by asking where they put their cross in a ballot box. That’s naivety or worse arrogance.
And I am very wary these days of people who do.
You also have to ask yourself did all the lifelong Labour voters who voted away from Labour this time suddenly lose a lifetimes worth of compassion in one day? That’s not rational. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 9:39]
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| ok - politics debate on 09:40 - Dec 21 with 1671 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| ok - politics debate on 09:11 - Dec 21 by spell_chekker |
There's more than a grain of truth in the O/P.
This 'caring' cliché that Labour have plays against them. 'Caring' nd not capable of making the tough decisions. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 9:13]
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Tough decisions? Like when doctors have to turn life support off or social workers are removing children at birth? I don't get your point spell... there's no link between caring and being resilient at all. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 9:42]
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| ok - politics debate on 19:02 - Dec 21 with 1637 views | spell_chekker |
| ok - politics debate on 09:40 - Dec 21 by ROTTWEILERS |
Tough decisions? Like when doctors have to turn life support off or social workers are removing children at birth? I don't get your point spell... there's no link between caring and being resilient at all. [Post edited 21 Dec 2019 9:42]
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One possible example:
There may be a need to modify the retirement system. I'd argue that if a 'nasty' financial decision like this needed to be made then Labour would be more likely to duck it that the Conservatives.
I've no facts or figures to nack this up. It's simply a general feeling.
Another area where Labour would be considered to be soft would be cutting state benefits and / or sick benefits - both of which are sticky wickets and Labour are globally, without any stats to back it up, considered to be weak on making decisions.
It's crappy all this, horrible subjects.
There may even be cases where peoples' jobs are obselete. Labour would generally be deemed to be soft on these kind of decisions. | |
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