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The 12 point deduction 20:58 - Jan 28 with 5208 viewsTwelveAngryMen

Is there anyone on here who wouldn't take that hit to be certain of being rid of our No 1 fan ?

Spoke to Fred about this a few weeks ago and his view at the time as that it was too high a price - hopefully my feedback as to what it would mean may have given him food for thought

Plus our recent results suggest we can avoid relegation even if the deduction is applied so the risk is lessened in my eyes as compared with when we spoke

Personally I'd take relegation every day if it guaranteed an Oyston free BFC albeit I'd rather we didn't but the priority as I see it must to remove the family Nothing should delay that for me

Thoughts?

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The 12 point deduction on 20:12 - Jan 31 with 1070 viewsokeh_for_some

The 12 point deduction on 20:03 - Jan 31 by TwelveAngryMen

It would be a shame but not the end of the world

As I alluded to earlier I reckon the players would swap the 12 points for an end to the nonsense they have to put up with day in day out

Hopefully if / when it happens the EFL will be sympathetic

Not holding my breath


Bit of a daft thread in my opinion. I’m pretty sure every fan, attendee or NAPM, would rather we kept the points, but it will be what it is. Likewise, anyone with any sense would want the Oyston’s gone.
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The 12 point deduction (n/t) on 20:15 - Jan 31 with 1062 viewsImperial

The 12 point deduction (n/t) on 20:06 - Jan 31 by Imperial



It was a genuine question thrown out there Jane, not aimed at anybody in particular.. I know the strength of feeling of the NAPMers.
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The 12 point deduction (n/t) on 20:22 - Jan 31 with 1053 viewsjanegallagher

The 12 point deduction (n/t) on 20:15 - Jan 31 by Imperial

It was a genuine question thrown out there Jane, not aimed at anybody in particular.. I know the strength of feeling of the NAPMers.


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The 12 point deduction on 01:33 - Feb 1 with 1030 views3goalsfred

I’ve been busy over the last couple of days so I’ve followed this thread without posting.

Picking up on TAM's o/p it does occur to me that not only can we fail to agree in real life about whether to attend or not, we also fail to agree on even hypothetical questions. It’s almost like we've got bored with beating each other up about attending or boycotting so let’s have a guess at something else we can fail to agree on!

Simply put TAM I don’t agree with NAPM, I didn’t ever think it was the right thing to do. It didn’t feel right and it still doesn’t. So nothing has changed for me and nothing has changed for you. No surprises there then. But for what it’s worth I'll still be calling in on you and the rest of the leafletters at your outside office whenever I’m able, just to let you know I’m still around.

Up the Pool

Fred

PS - cheers Jane, lala, Hannibal and others on this thread for your support
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The 12 point deduction on 06:41 - Feb 1 with 1007 viewsTwelveAngryMen

The 12 point deduction on 01:33 - Feb 1 by 3goalsfred

I’ve been busy over the last couple of days so I’ve followed this thread without posting.

Picking up on TAM's o/p it does occur to me that not only can we fail to agree in real life about whether to attend or not, we also fail to agree on even hypothetical questions. It’s almost like we've got bored with beating each other up about attending or boycotting so let’s have a guess at something else we can fail to agree on!

Simply put TAM I don’t agree with NAPM, I didn’t ever think it was the right thing to do. It didn’t feel right and it still doesn’t. So nothing has changed for me and nothing has changed for you. No surprises there then. But for what it’s worth I'll still be calling in on you and the rest of the leafletters at your outside office whenever I’m able, just to let you know I’m still around.

Up the Pool

Fred

PS - cheers Jane, lala, Hannibal and others on this thread for your support


Hopefully not for too much longer Fred - perhaps we can then debate the point inside whilst I buy you a brew 🤞

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The 12 point deduction on 11:15 - Feb 1 with 985 views3goalsfred

The 12 point deduction on 06:41 - Feb 1 by TwelveAngryMen

Hopefully not for too much longer Fred - perhaps we can then debate the point inside whilst I buy you a brew 🤞


TAM
Very happy to do that. I look forward to a time when our disagreements are about team selection, tactics and whether the ball crossed the line or not!

Up the Pool

Fred
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The 12 point deduction on 23:08 - Feb 19 with 937 viewsspell_chekker

Here's the latest (very short) article -

Football League sympathetic to Blackpool

The Football League will work with the receivers of Blackpool to ensure that the club is able to fulfil its fixtures for the rest of the season. They have also stated that a 12 point deduction for entering receivership is not mandatory, the particular circumstances have to be considered: Blackpool

Blackpool Supporters' Trust do not yet feel able to lift their boycott of home games

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The 12 point deduction on 21:01 - Mar 18 with 894 viewsspell_chekker

The 12 point deduction on 23:08 - Feb 19 by spell_chekker

Here's the latest (very short) article -

Football League sympathetic to Blackpool

The Football League will work with the receivers of Blackpool to ensure that the club is able to fulfil its fixtures for the rest of the season. They have also stated that a 12 point deduction for entering receivership is not mandatory, the particular circumstances have to be considered: Blackpool

Blackpool Supporters' Trust do not yet feel able to lift their boycott of home games


Any news?

Have the club contacted the EFL with details yet?

Originally, wasn't there some sort of deadline along the lines of the receiver having to be in before (approximately) 24th March otherwise any deduction would be carried over to next season?

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The 12 point deduction on 21:54 - Mar 18 with 881 viewsBringBackTheRedRoom

The 12 point deduction on 21:01 - Mar 18 by spell_chekker

Any news?

Have the club contacted the EFL with details yet?

Originally, wasn't there some sort of deadline along the lines of the receiver having to be in before (approximately) 24th March otherwise any deduction would be carried over to next season?


I'm guessing here, but I would think the board would have up to the next EFL meeting (whenever that is) and they would find some sneaky way to apply any points deduction when they wanted to. The more you look at their rules the more opaque they get to me.

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The 12 point deduction on 09:11 - Mar 19 with 875 viewsROTTWEILERS

The 12 point deduction on 21:54 - Mar 18 by BringBackTheRedRoom

I'm guessing here, but I would think the board would have up to the next EFL meeting (whenever that is) and they would find some sneaky way to apply any points deduction when they wanted to. The more you look at their rules the more opaque they get to me.


I see that Brum have been given the same unnecessary wait to hear their fate that we are also enduring:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/efl-released-birmi

Interesting that an 'independent' panel heard their case, whereas our situation was discussed generally by EFL chairmen.

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The 12 point deduction on 09:15 - Mar 19 with 873 viewsspell_chekker

The 12 point deduction on 09:11 - Mar 19 by ROTTWEILERS

I see that Brum have been given the same unnecessary wait to hear their fate that we are also enduring:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/efl-released-birmi

Interesting that an 'independent' panel heard their case, whereas our situation was discussed generally by EFL chairmen.


Very strange that Rot.

Why the difference and what could be the consequences?

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The 12 point deduction on 09:24 - Mar 19 with 871 viewsROTTWEILERS

The 12 point deduction on 09:15 - Mar 19 by spell_chekker

Very strange that Rot.

Why the difference and what could be the consequences?


Haven't a clue. I think generally the EFL and FA have that many rules, they can pick n mix which ones to apply according to their own agenda. They've said as much themselves when stating they might show us some clemency.

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The 12 point deduction on 00:05 - Mar 27 with 819 viewsspell_chekker

The 12 point deduction on 13:43 - Jan 29 by basilrobbiereborn

I feel I have to back TAM up here. One of the more insidious characteristics of AVFTT these days is that there are a number (maybe less than a dozen) of posters who hide behind anonymity to try to undermine the Trust, and prominent people around it, at every turn.

Some of that stuff is made worse by the calculation that lies behind it. That's not to say that the kind of abuse that Jane is talking about is acceptable - it isn't. But people are behaving badly on both sides and have done so for ages.

The best thing I have seen on there this week was when Tramway decided to stir it for those who go and got pelters for his spitefulness from quite a number of people. There should be more of that kind of response to that kind of post, whichever camp it comes from.

We may be back in the stadium together soon. And the process of repairing our club starts with repairing the relationship with one another.


Starting to get worried about the 12 point deduction.

Has the club given the info to the EFL?

Is the EFL having another meeting?

If we do get a deduction and we don't hear about it very soon, it's likely to be carried over into next season - surely.

Nightmare.

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The 12 point deduction on 00:15 - Mar 27 with 816 viewsBringBackTheRedRoom

The EFL move in mysterious ways.

Not got a Scooby-Doo.

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The 12 point deduction on 00:17 - Mar 27 with 813 viewsspell_chekker

The 12 point deduction on 00:15 - Mar 27 by BringBackTheRedRoom

The EFL move in mysterious ways.

Not got a Scooby-Doo.


It's all gone very quiet on this subject.

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