| Stadium deal agreed 10:01 - Feb 17 with 68915 views | Dr_Winston |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:04 - Feb 17 with 9950 views | monmouth |
Really don’t know what I think of this. Can’t help but feel quite uneasy. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:06 - Feb 17 with 9930 views | Dr_Winston |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:04 - Feb 17 by monmouth |
Really don’t know what I think of this. Can’t help but feel quite uneasy. |
If we survive I wouldn't be surprised to see attempts to sell soon, especially with the new TV deal in place. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:10 - Feb 17 with 9853 views | TheResurrection |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:04 - Feb 17 by monmouth |
Really don’t know what I think of this. Can’t help but feel quite uneasy. |
It's a case of time will tell but additionally, fans are simply going out of their way to look for issues, and make them up if they're not there.
Now I don't know whether this will turn out to be a good thing or a bloody disaster, and I doubt anyone else does too, but it's what we all would've wanted a few years ago.
So maybe we can look at this positively until a time it's clear it's something else. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:10 - Feb 17 with 9890 views | oldgrey |
Sell what?
It's a lease they've bought not the stadium itself. |  | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:11 - Feb 17 with 9882 views | Dr_Winston |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:10 - Feb 17 by oldgrey |
Sell what?
It's a lease they've bought not the stadium itself. |
Uh, the club? | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:13 - Feb 17 with 9858 views | Gowerjack |
So we are paying extra for something that to all intents and purposes was ours anyway.
Wise. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:14 - Feb 17 with 9855 views | airedale |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:10 - Feb 17 by oldgrey |
Sell what?
It's a lease they've bought not the stadium itself. |
Their shares I assume. Though can’t see people queueing to buy shares in a Championship club. |  | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:16 - Feb 17 with 9840 views | monmouth |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:06 - Feb 17 by Dr_Winston |
If we survive I wouldn't be surprised to see attempts to sell soon, especially with the new TV deal in place. |
That’s what makes me uneasy, it’s been done without giving a toss for the actual longer term consequences as they’ve no intention of being around to deal with it.
Lucky we have a supporters trust who will have been fully involved in such an important decision and would have said publicly very loudly if they thought it was too risky. | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:16 - Feb 17 with 9810 views | Jackfath |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:18 - Feb 17 with 9814 views | monmouth |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:10 - Feb 17 by TheResurrection |
It's a case of time will tell but additionally, fans are simply going out of their way to look for issues, and make them up if they're not there.
Now I don't know whether this will turn out to be a good thing or a bloody disaster, and I doubt anyone else does too, but it's what we all would've wanted a few years ago.
So maybe we can look at this positively until a time it's clear it's something else. |
Aye, that’s what I mean, I don’t know what to think, but it feels a massive step and because the pros and cons are not clear, it makes me uneasy. | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:22 - Feb 17 with 9744 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:10 - Feb 17 by TheResurrection |
It's a case of time will tell but additionally, fans are simply going out of their way to look for issues, and make them up if they're not there.
Now I don't know whether this will turn out to be a good thing or a bloody disaster, and I doubt anyone else does too, but it's what we all would've wanted a few years ago.
So maybe we can look at this positively until a time it's clear it's something else. |
No its not.
We wanted extra seats so more fans could watch.
No fans give a shite who owns the stadium.
I agree that not many will know if its a good thing or not.
I guess the first question to ask is why now ? - and then what benefit do the Swans get ? |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:25 - Feb 17 with 9746 views | Gowerjack |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:22 - Feb 17 by Kilkennyjack |
No its not.
We wanted extra seats so more fans could watch.
No fans give a shite who owns the stadium.
I agree that not many will know if its a good thing or not.
I guess the first question to ask is why now ? - and then what benefit do the Swans get ? |
I disagree.
The first question we should be asking is what will it cost?
The operating costs of the stadium are considerable why else do you thing the council were so desperate to offload?
What does the football club gain? | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:29 - Feb 17 with 9709 views | costalotta |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:18 - Feb 17 by monmouth |
Aye, that’s what I mean, I don’t know what to think, but it feels a massive step and because the pros and cons are not clear, it makes me uneasy. |
Personally I have an open mind about this. On the positive side we now control the income streams and also can proceed to develop the stadium. That’s has to be good right?
What I do find interesting is the default position of mistrust and rejection of change that seems to prevelant amongst the natives. Embrace it! |  | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:29 - Feb 17 with 9702 views | oldgrey |
Fans should care who owns the stadium.
If a bunch of asset strippers own a stadium (as opposed to leasing it) they can sell it to developers etc to do what they want with it. And raise large amounts of dosh on the sale. Using the stadium as collateral to raise money to spend on fast cars, women and trinkets.
The developers could replace the Liberty with anything they want, Poundland, Cardiff club shop, the Cheese Experience etc etc.
Swans would end up playing at Cwm Level.
At least this deal retains ownership with the people. | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:30 - Feb 17 with 9685 views | perchrockjack |
Last post is most perceptive.
We have nothing to fear but fear itself | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:35 - Feb 17 with 9649 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:29 - Feb 17 by oldgrey |
Fans should care who owns the stadium.
If a bunch of asset strippers own a stadium (as opposed to leasing it) they can sell it to developers etc to do what they want with it. And raise large amounts of dosh on the sale. Using the stadium as collateral to raise money to spend on fast cars, women and trinkets.
The developers could replace the Liberty with anything they want, Poundland, Cardiff club shop, the Cheese Experience etc etc.
Swans would end up playing at Cwm Level.
At least this deal retains ownership with the people. |
They don’t own the stadium though do they?
Edit - sorry misread [Post edited 17 Feb 2018 10:36]
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:40 - Feb 17 with 9595 views | Highjack |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:30 - Feb 17 by perchrockjack |
Last post is most perceptive.
We have nothing to fear but fear itself |
Tigers and malaria are quite scary too. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:42 - Feb 17 with 9589 views | wobbly |
Has the trust issued any kind of statement on this yet? |  | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:43 - Feb 17 with 9569 views | AguycalledJack |
Is it possible to borrow against a lease? That is my concern. | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:43 - Feb 17 with 9567 views | Highjack |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:42 - Feb 17 by wobbly |
Has the trust issued any kind of statement on this yet? |
We will get a further update on due course | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 10:52 - Feb 17 with 9512 views | dobjack2 |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:29 - Feb 17 by costalotta |
Personally I have an open mind about this. On the positive side we now control the income streams and also can proceed to develop the stadium. That’s has to be good right?
What I do find interesting is the default position of mistrust and rejection of change that seems to prevelant amongst the natives. Embrace it! |
It comes down to whether people trust the owners rather than a reluctance to embrace change. Not all change is good, the crowd facing ads in the East being a prime example. | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:57 - Feb 17 with 9485 views | Jango |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:43 - Feb 17 by Highjack |
We will get a further update on due course |
It’s obviously financially beneficial to the club to secure this deal. Whether the extra money raised will be pumped directly back into the club or used to line the shareholders pockets is another matter. Only time will tell. Hopefully we’ll look back at this as a moment we took the step to the next level. | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:59 - Feb 17 with 9476 views | Neath_Jack |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:42 - Feb 17 by wobbly |
Has the trust issued any kind of statement on this yet? |
They're busy forming a sub-committee to discuss it  |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 11:00 - Feb 17 with 9467 views | airedale |
Got to laugh. If the stadium was sold to developers, Swansea Council Planning department would say “you can build what you want,as long as it’s a football stadium “ (see Ford, Model T) | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 11:03 - Feb 17 with 9454 views | costalotta |
| Stadium deal agreed on 10:52 - Feb 17 by dobjack2 |
It comes down to whether people trust the owners rather than a reluctance to embrace change. Not all change is good, the crowd facing ads in the East being a prime example. |
It’s a mindset thing.
Crowd facing ads? Fella, I assume you go to watch the football right? | | | |
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