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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? 05:50 - Sep 17 with 15126 viewsMeraki

Another great moneyball signing.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 13:42 - Sep 17 with 7900 views34dfgdf54

Another Borja Baston signing if I've ever seen one. Clement has no trust in him whatsoever which is surprising given the reviews he had when he signed.

Shame.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:00 - Sep 17 with 7858 viewsjasper_T

Strange that our coaches seem to find value in mediocre Eredivisie and Championship performers, but players that have stood out in one of the best leagues in the world are immediately deemed not good enough.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:05 - Sep 17 with 7838 viewsE20Jack

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:00 - Sep 17 by jasper_T

Strange that our coaches seem to find value in mediocre Eredivisie and Championship performers, but players that have stood out in one of the best leagues in the world are immediately deemed not good enough.


The majority of La Liga is painfully weak.

Ronaldo and Messi get 50 goals each. Can you imagine anyone ever getting 50 PL goals in a season? Neither Ronaldo nor Messi would.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:32 - Sep 17 with 7753 viewsSwansea93

Barcelona fans wanted Mesa over Paulinho, some how he aint good enough for us.

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:33 - Sep 17 with 7746 viewsE20Jack

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:32 - Sep 17 by Swansea93

Barcelona fans wanted Mesa over Paulinho, some how he aint good enough for us.


Link?

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:35 - Sep 17 with 7736 viewsA_Fans_Dad

He looked OK against Man U.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:39 - Sep 17 with 7719 viewsSwansea93

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:33 - Sep 17 by E20Jack

Link?


https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Roque%20mesa%20barcelona&src=typed_query

There was more around the time we signed him as well.

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:42 - Sep 17 with 7703 viewsTummer_from_Texas

We've got 180 minutes of football scheduled over the next 7 days. If he isn't picked to start one of the next two, I'll be surprised.

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:48 - Sep 17 with 7672 viewsSwansea93

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:42 - Sep 17 by Tummer_from_Texas

We've got 180 minutes of football scheduled over the next 7 days. If he isn't picked to start one of the next two, I'll be surprised.


He start against Reading get MOM and score a goal and he still wont be picked against Watford.

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 15:12 - Sep 17 with 7599 viewsmagicdaps10

Mesa needs to be blooded into the team alongside Carroll.
The guy has not had a decent run in the team yet. Until he has a run then I am not going to label him as a poor signing. As stated, Barcelona fans wanted him at the Nou Camp and he has been knocking on the full Spanish squad before signing with us.

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 15:13 - Sep 17 with 7596 viewsveng9

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:05 - Sep 17 by E20Jack

The majority of La Liga is painfully weak.

Ronaldo and Messi get 50 goals each. Can you imagine anyone ever getting 50 PL goals in a season? Neither Ronaldo nor Messi would.
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Well Ronaldo has never hit 50 league goals and Messi only once. Messi's last 4 seasons have seen him score 37 in 34, 26 in 33, 43 in 38 and 28 in 31. Ronaldo 25 in 29, 35 in 36, 48 in 35 and 31 in 30. Considering Ronaldo had 31 goals in one season in the premier league when he wasn't even as good a goal scorer as he has been at Madrid and Messi's record of 16 in 25 against English clubs in the Champions League, 9 in 6 against Arsenal and 5 in 5 against Manchester City, I don't see why they wouldn't be getting 30-40 goals. Harry Kane had 29 in 30 last season and they're both better than him so I think they could score a similar amount of goals as they are in Spain.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 15:26 - Sep 17 with 7568 viewsLoyal

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:39 - Sep 17 by Swansea93

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=Roque%20mesa%20barcelona&src=typed_query

There was more around the time we signed him as well.


He needs games and we will see the craftsman at work.

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 15:37 - Sep 17 with 7537 viewsswanjackal

And some thought Monk had Spanish-phobia....Clement is off the charts. Tut tut.


(PS: This is not a serious post)

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 16:41 - Sep 17 with 7427 viewsjasper_T

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:32 - Sep 17 by Swansea93

Barcelona fans wanted Mesa over Paulinho, some how he aint good enough for us.


I fairness they didn't want Paulinho at all and his signing from China is thought to be some weird money laundering scam/bribe situation.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 16:46 - Sep 17 with 7401 viewsjasper_T

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 14:05 - Sep 17 by E20Jack

The majority of La Liga is painfully weak.

Ronaldo and Messi get 50 goals each. Can you imagine anyone ever getting 50 PL goals in a season? Neither Ronaldo nor Messi would.
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If the majority of La Liga is painfully weak, how do you describe the majority of the Championship or Eredivisie, where the likes of Fer, Carroll, Olsson, Fulton, Narsingh, Abraham, Ayew and van der Hoorn had varying levels of success?
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 16:48 - Sep 17 with 7394 viewsJethroJack

Roque is being saved for a serious attempt at both Cups, starting on Tuesday night at the Madejski 😁
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 16:52 - Sep 17 with 7372 viewsTheResurrection

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 16:46 - Sep 17 by jasper_T

If the majority of La Liga is painfully weak, how do you describe the majority of the Championship or Eredivisie, where the likes of Fer, Carroll, Olsson, Fulton, Narsingh, Abraham, Ayew and van der Hoorn had varying levels of success?


Was Fer in the Championship that long?
Carroll bits and bobs?
Nor Fulton?
Olsson, half a season?
Ayew, few games there?

It's a poor effort isn't it?
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:03 - Sep 17 with 7326 viewsoldcob

Judge a player by his performance and ability, not which league he once played in.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:19 - Sep 17 with 7288 viewsE20Jack

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 15:13 - Sep 17 by veng9

Well Ronaldo has never hit 50 league goals and Messi only once. Messi's last 4 seasons have seen him score 37 in 34, 26 in 33, 43 in 38 and 28 in 31. Ronaldo 25 in 29, 35 in 36, 48 in 35 and 31 in 30. Considering Ronaldo had 31 goals in one season in the premier league when he wasn't even as good a goal scorer as he has been at Madrid and Messi's record of 16 in 25 against English clubs in the Champions League, 9 in 6 against Arsenal and 5 in 5 against Manchester City, I don't see why they wouldn't be getting 30-40 goals. Harry Kane had 29 in 30 last season and they're both better than him so I think they could score a similar amount of goals as they are in Spain.


No chance. Nobody will score 50 PL goals in a single season. Bookmark this. Nobody will even get 40+.

Since 1992, the 35 goals mark has been hit by one or more players in 16 separate seasons in La Liga. SIXTEEN of them!

In the same time period not a single time has anyone reached that tally in the PL. in fact the record stands at 34 which has stood for the last 28 years and rarely ever looks like it can be matched, the PL top goal scorer more often than not will not have reached 30 goals.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:30 - Sep 17 with 7257 viewsTheResurrection

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:19 - Sep 17 by E20Jack

No chance. Nobody will score 50 PL goals in a single season. Bookmark this. Nobody will even get 40+.

Since 1992, the 35 goals mark has been hit by one or more players in 16 separate seasons in La Liga. SIXTEEN of them!

In the same time period not a single time has anyone reached that tally in the PL. in fact the record stands at 34 which has stood for the last 28 years and rarely ever looks like it can be matched, the PL top goal scorer more often than not will not have reached 30 goals.
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La Liga is all fur coat and no knickers and the big 3 are just flat track bullies.

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:43 - Sep 17 with 7226 viewsTreforys_Jack

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:30 - Sep 17 by TheResurrection

La Liga is all fur coat and no knickers and the big 3 are just flat track bullies.


Yeah that's why they never perform in Europe.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:55 - Sep 17 with 7193 viewsmax936

Very strange after reading his build up on here,

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:55 - Sep 17 with 7190 viewsFlashberryjack

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 15:26 - Sep 17 by Loyal

He needs games and we will see the craftsman at work.


Craftsman ? our manager doesn't think so.

How much did we pay for him ?

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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 20:02 - Sep 17 with 7037 viewsjasfan

I didn't see Mesa perform in pre-season and have not watched La Liga on a regular basis for several years, so I haven't really got a strong opinion on whether he is going to come good. Assuming he does though, I would like to think this will allow Clucas to be more adventurous in his game than he has been allowed to so far.

Based on our squad being fully fit, what do people think will be the starting 11 with either 3 or 4 at the back. I'm not going to pretend I know much about formations so would be interested to read what others would choose to start matches.
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Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 20:03 - Sep 17 with 7032 viewsicecoldjack

Nirvana, is Mesa nearly ready? on 17:43 - Sep 17 by Treforys_Jack

Yeah that's why they never perform in Europe.


Well, it could be argued that they do well in Europe because it's far easier to rest their top players for the mid week top euro games .

The premier league while lacking quality is a beast in terms of how any team on its day can turn over the top clubs . Where in any other league can a small team like swansea have players like Llorente, siggy , michu,Bony,Ayew etc .

Most teams in Europe couldn't sign a lot of those players .
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