| Bony deal collapsed 23:39 - Aug 30 with 19131 views | Joe_bradshaw |
According to Sky.
Apparently we're looking at Nelson Olivera to replace Llorente. |  |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 05:59 - Aug 31 with 2448 views | EasternJack |
| Bony deal collapsed on 03:19 - Aug 31 by Wanderer |
looks like we have been chasing Bony for a while, so should have happened by now.
Verona turns up in the last day and Bony apparently says yes please i'll go to Verona.
IF this true, none of us truly knows, says a lot about Bony in my opinion. |
We've been waiting for Chelsea to pull their finger out on Llorente |  |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 06:08 - Aug 31 with 2432 views | jack247 |
Tammy is a nailed on starter, but he's not a lone frontman. If the Bony deal collapses, we need to bring in someone else physical, or if we have to, take a hit on Llorente in the summer.
Tammy needs to be running into spaces and finishing chances, both of which he is brilliant at. He doesn't need to be battling with two centre backs in the middle third of the pitch. |  | | |
| Bony deal collapsed on 07:15 - Aug 31 with 2212 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Bony deal collapsed on 04:00 - Aug 31 by macthejack |
People dismissing Oliveira's performance just because it's been in the championship would do well to remember that some of our better performers of recent times (Mawson, Olsson, Abraham) have all come from the championship. Hell you could even point to Bartley, and Ayew and to an even further extent, Britton and Rangel.
The point is that many players can and do make the step up from Championship level and to dismiss them just because they come from a lower league is both shortsighted and condescending. |
I'm dismissing him because of how poor he was when he was here last time.
Ok he looked a bit better than Vasquez, Schechter, Ngog etc. and he ran around a bit but that's just about the only positives you can give from his time here |  | | |
| Bony deal collapsed on 07:18 - Aug 31 with 2188 views | Dr_Winston |
| Bony deal collapsed on 07:15 - Aug 31 by AngelRangelQS |
I'm dismissing him because of how poor he was when he was here last time.
Ok he looked a bit better than Vasquez, Schechter, Ngog etc. and he ran around a bit but that's just about the only positives you can give from his time here |
His Championship record is very good which suggests he's a bit better than he showed when he was here. Be disappointed if he's our first alternative to Bony, but we'll see. |  |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:06 - Aug 31 with 1929 views | Private_Partz |
| Bony deal collapsed on 07:18 - Aug 31 by Dr_Winston |
His Championship record is very good which suggests he's a bit better than he showed when he was here. Be disappointed if he's our first alternative to Bony, but we'll see. |
If the Bony deal has collapsed then Llorente must stay. Personally I would have kept him regardless. We don't mess about with our top flight future. All this cobblers about needing the Llorente money. Surely we haven't spunked the Siggy dosh yet? Not forgetting the oodles we have saved when we have very efficiently, and timely, got a large chunk of our squad out the door. |  |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:08 - Aug 31 with 1905 views | AngelRangelQS |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:06 - Aug 31 by Private_Partz |
If the Bony deal has collapsed then Llorente must stay. Personally I would have kept him regardless. We don't mess about with our top flight future. All this cobblers about needing the Llorente money. Surely we haven't spunked the Siggy dosh yet? Not forgetting the oodles we have saved when we have very efficiently, and timely, got a large chunk of our squad out the door. |
If we aren't happy with the "Bony alternatives" then yes we certainly do need to keep Llorente | | | |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:09 - Aug 31 with 1900 views | WarwickHunt |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:06 - Aug 31 by Private_Partz |
If the Bony deal has collapsed then Llorente must stay. Personally I would have kept him regardless. We don't mess about with our top flight future. All this cobblers about needing the Llorente money. Surely we haven't spunked the Siggy dosh yet? Not forgetting the oodles we have saved when we have very efficiently, and timely, got a large chunk of our squad out the door. |
Getting £15m for Llorente with a year left on his contract makes sense.
Swapping him for Bony + a few million doesn't. |  | | |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:13 - Aug 31 with 1859 views | costalotta |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:09 - Aug 31 by WarwickHunt |
Getting £15m for Llorente with a year left on his contract makes sense.
Swapping him for Bony + a few million doesn't. |
It only makes sense if he is replaced with equal quality. You wouldn't sell an apartment on curzon street and buy a tent on berklely square if you wanted to live in Mayfair. There again, HJ might. |  | | |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:23 - Aug 31 with 1761 views | Swansea93 |
I'd be gutted if Bony doesn't end up back here, rollercoaster day today I expect. | |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:24 - Aug 31 with 1743 views | jedijack |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:23 - Aug 31 by Swansea93 |
I'd be gutted if Bony doesn't end up back here, rollercoaster day today I expect. |
I suspect it may end up being more like a log flume :) | | | |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:28 - Aug 31 with 1701 views | Private_Partz |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:24 - Aug 31 by jedijack |
I suspect it may end up being more like a log flume :) |
There is a real danger of a closed log flume. Jenkins has more to dither about than ever now. I don't trust him either. I even smell a rat with Sanches. Cynical old tw@t that I am. [Post edited 31 Aug 2017 8:43]
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:31 - Aug 31 with 1666 views | Jackflack |
| Bony deal collapsed on 04:00 - Aug 31 by macthejack |
People dismissing Oliveira's performance just because it's been in the championship would do well to remember that some of our better performers of recent times (Mawson, Olsson, Abraham) have all come from the championship. Hell you could even point to Bartley, and Ayew and to an even further extent, Britton and Rangel.
The point is that many players can and do make the step up from Championship level and to dismiss them just because they come from a lower league is both shortsighted and condescending. |
To question the replacement of an established premier league striker with a cheap gambol from the championship is not being short sighted at all. It's madness.
You can take a chance with defenders and midfielders but not strikers.
We have plenty of history on cheap strikers.
That said, Jansen at Spurs would be an interesting option on loan. |  |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:33 - Aug 31 with 1642 views | ItchySphincter |
I was surprised when we let Nelson walk away last time. Much better player than he's getting credit for and suffered by being expected to fill Michu's boots. A better alternative than McBurnie at the moment. |  |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:41 - Aug 31 with 1572 views | Private_Partz |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:33 - Aug 31 by raynor94 |
Well you got one thing right in that post  Sanches is a done deal even Uli said so |
It's scarf aloft for me Rayns and even then it has gone tits up in the past. Btw wtf is Uli? | |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:42 - Aug 31 with 1564 views | Kerouac |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:33 - Aug 31 by ItchySphincter |
I was surprised when we let Nelson walk away last time. Much better player than he's getting credit for and suffered by being expected to fill Michu's boots. A better alternative than McBurnie at the moment. |
I agree he is better than McBurnie...and yes he showed some ability when he was with us (I think of him as a bit like Luke Moore).
If he was to come here on a free as the 3rd choice centre forward I'd be happy enough.
To replace Llorente as our target man, for £12m...like John McEnroe I refuse to believe you are being serious.
Jenkins just might be though. |  |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:42 - Aug 31 with 1557 views | Thornburyswan |
If this is true, as the odds suggest, how about a late loan bid for Origi - gets us the £13/15M & a decent number 9 | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 08:44 - Aug 31 with 1534 views | costalotta |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:42 - Aug 31 by Kerouac |
I agree he is better than McBurnie...and yes he showed some ability when he was with us (I think of him as a bit like Luke Moore).
If he was to come here on a free as the 3rd choice centre forward I'd be happy enough.
To replace Llorente as our target man, for £12m...like John McEnroe I refuse to believe you are being serious.
Jenkins just might be though. |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:44 - Aug 31 with 1529 views | Kerouac |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:42 - Aug 31 by Thornburyswan |
If this is true, as the odds suggest, how about a late loan bid for Origi - gets us the £13/15M & a decent number 9 |
That could work...would require some initiative on our part though with 14 hours to go and 3-5 deals to conclude | |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:46 - Aug 31 with 1507 views | exiledinenglandjack |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:42 - Aug 31 by Thornburyswan |
If this is true, as the odds suggest, how about a late loan bid for Origi - gets us the £13/15M & a decent number 9 |
Supposedly off to Wolfsburg on a season long loan | | | |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:46 - Aug 31 with 1505 views | Daggyjack |
| Bony deal collapsed on 00:46 - Aug 31 by SwansNZ |
in the Championship, not the same as PL |
You mean the same league Tammy played in last season?...... |  | | |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:47 - Aug 31 with 1491 views | SwansNZ |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:33 - Aug 31 by ItchySphincter |
I was surprised when we let Nelson walk away last time. Much better player than he's getting credit for and suffered by being expected to fill Michu's boots. A better alternative than McBurnie at the moment. |
Being better than McBurnie is not exactly high praise. |  |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:49 - Aug 31 with 1457 views | Thornburyswan |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:44 - Aug 31 by Kerouac |
That could work...would require some initiative on our part though with 14 hours to go and 3-5 deals to conclude |
Good point well made - suspect we all struggle to see HJ juggling phones/faxes to cope with Sanches, Chadli, Llorente & McB leave alone starting afresh with LFC! | | | |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:50 - Aug 31 with 1444 views | SwansNZ |
| Bony deal collapsed on 08:46 - Aug 31 by Daggyjack |
You mean the same league Tammy played in last season?...... |
Exactly.
Great start, but Tammy still has a lot to prove, which is why we need an experienced (good) striker too. | |
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| Bony deal collapsed on 08:52 - Aug 31 with 1419 views | TheResurrection |
| Bony deal collapsed on 06:08 - Aug 31 by jack247 |
Tammy is a nailed on starter, but he's not a lone frontman. If the Bony deal collapses, we need to bring in someone else physical, or if we have to, take a hit on Llorente in the summer.
Tammy needs to be running into spaces and finishing chances, both of which he is brilliant at. He doesn't need to be battling with two centre backs in the middle third of the pitch. |
You're off again...
Yes he does!!!
If he wants to progress as a striker, which he absolutely does, then he needs to develop this part of his game. Clement has told him this.
A part of me thinks this Sanches deal has changed the landscape on Bony. I tried to get a first team up last night and it was going to be super difficult keeping everyone happy. I think we may have seen enough in Tammy to think this boy is likely to be number 1 every game and with a good injury record maybe best to get a back up instead of a direct challenger. |  |
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