Paul Clement on Roque Mesa 12:47 - Aug 13 with 20514 views | EasternJack | Roque Mesa was an unused substitute this weekend as the Swans kicked off the new season with a goalless draw at Southampton. And Clement explained that he wants to give the 28-year-old, who arrived in an £11 million deal last month, the opportunity to come to terms with the challenges of English football. “Roque Mesa is a really good player and he is going to be a good player for this team,” “But it’s going to take him a little bit of time to adapt to the tempo of this league because he has been playing in La Liga. “I have worked in La Liga and I know the difference. In La Liga you get time on the ball to play, especially in midfield. “But over here it’s very different. You don’t get that time and space to play because of the tempo. “Roque will get used to that, but it’s going to take him a bit of time.” “If we get players in, it will be good if they have a bit of Premier League experience,” --- Thankfully that kills the Viera link, but probably reinforces the Joey, Bony and Chadli deals once/if Siggy goes | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:50 - Aug 13 with 8522 views | Darran | Dear God. What happens if we bring players from abroad in before the window closes they don't play untill October is it? What a load of bollox. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 with 8505 views | Highjack | Ok I'll ask the stupidly obvious question. How the hell is he going to get used to the tempo of the English game whilst sitting on the bench? | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 with 8496 views | Private_Partz | Seems to be criticising the DOF for not getting in players experienced in this league. He obviously feels Mesa is not up to the job at the moment. I didn't like the 'if we get players in' bit either. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:54 - Aug 13 with 8483 views | Darran |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 by Highjack | Ok I'll ask the stupidly obvious question. How the hell is he going to get used to the tempo of the English game whilst sitting on the bench? |
The answer will be he didn't put him on incase we lost that point. I get where you're coming from though Hije. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:56 - Aug 13 with 8474 views | TheResurrection |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 by Private_Partz | Seems to be criticising the DOF for not getting in players experienced in this league. He obviously feels Mesa is not up to the job at the moment. I didn't like the 'if we get players in' bit either. |
Like I said yesterday his subs were a statement to to the Board. He is clearly pissed off and the Trust do nothing. Get a facking message out there and do it today!!!! APPALLING PRE-SEASON - NO LESSONS LEARNED | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:02 - Aug 13 with 8430 views | EasternJack |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 by Private_Partz | Seems to be criticising the DOF for not getting in players experienced in this league. He obviously feels Mesa is not up to the job at the moment. I didn't like the 'if we get players in' bit either. |
That's also how I read it. I don't think Mesa is a PC signing. Totally out of order | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:06 - Aug 13 with 8395 views | EasternJack |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:56 - Aug 13 by TheResurrection | Like I said yesterday his subs were a statement to to the Board. He is clearly pissed off and the Trust do nothing. Get a facking message out there and do it today!!!! APPALLING PRE-SEASON - NO LESSONS LEARNED |
Coming around to your way of thinking on PC. I think if he had a stronger managerial track record as number 1 then he would be more forceful - probably with an ultimatum. As it is, he's got the Derby "failure" and a reputation as a solid number 2. Career wise, I don't think he can afford to tell HJ to shove it. [Post edited 13 Aug 2017 13:07]
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:15 - Aug 13 with 8335 views | E20Jack | He isn't going to adapt if he isn't going to play. Rubbish explanation. I think PC is incredibly p*ssed off and I think its a great observation from the Res regarding it being almost a case of ''protest subs''. It didn't occur to me at the time, but think the assessment is spot on. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:17 - Aug 13 with 8324 views | AngelRangelQS | I can see his point. Michu, DeGuzman and Chico were all terrible in their first league game for us | | | |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:20 - Aug 13 with 8308 views | raynor94 | Absolutely farcical explanation | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 with 8264 views | clement | People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs. Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:28 - Aug 13 with 8249 views | icecoldjack | A point i picked up on with this signing and said on here at the time was it seemed a bit odd that there was a little too much about the manager wanting him. ""The manager knows me, he knows how I play and what I can contribute to the team. I'll try to make the team play. " " "I know he's like [Carlo] Ancelotti - he likes to play and wants to create a different Premier League team which likes to play. The manager is a person who knows how to play and that's something I really like." Mesa. He knows him so well he doesn't even give him 5 mins on the field and says he isn't ready. All seems a bit odd to me but very early days . | | | |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:31 - Aug 13 with 8221 views | E20Jack |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement | People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs. Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time. |
Why do you think Fulton is more positionally sound than Mesa out of interest? | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:33 - Aug 13 with 8207 views | raynor94 |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement | People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs. Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time. |
He's our £11 million star summer signing, and you want to give him time to bed in, on the bench? Minutes, he should be playing games! | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:33 - Aug 13 with 8202 views | Neath_Jack |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement | People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs. Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time. |
He'll get minutes? He cost over £10m quid ffs, it's not like we signed him last week either. He's had plenty of time to bed in with the squad. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:34 - Aug 13 with 8198 views | Shonky |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:02 - Aug 13 by EasternJack | That's also how I read it. I don't think Mesa is a PC signing. Totally out of order |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:35 - Aug 13 with 8190 views | Neath_Jack |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:34 - Aug 13 by Shonky | |
S'up Captain? You think the manager signs players? | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:38 - Aug 13 with 8156 views | Shonky |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:35 - Aug 13 by Neath_Jack | S'up Captain? You think the manager signs players? |
If he doesn't sign players, then "I don't think hes a Clement signing" is a gigantically fking stupid comment in the first place. Fking morons. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:43 - Aug 13 with 8123 views | Neath_Jack |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:38 - Aug 13 by Shonky | If he doesn't sign players, then "I don't think hes a Clement signing" is a gigantically fking stupid comment in the first place. Fking morons. |
Hangover? You seem awfully aggressive today. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:51 - Aug 13 with 8075 views | Whiterockin |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement | People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs. Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time. |
Agree 100%. Yesterday was a backs to the wall job when it was time to make the subs. The diamond was leaving us exposed wide and we were being pulled all over the pitch. I have only seen Mesa play once against Sampdoria and if he came on and played the same way yesterday we would have lost. Yesterday the game was in the balance and that is not the time to bed in players in the Premier League. | | | |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:53 - Aug 13 with 8059 views | TheResurrection |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:06 - Aug 13 by EasternJack | Coming around to your way of thinking on PC. I think if he had a stronger managerial track record as number 1 then he would be more forceful - probably with an ultimatum. As it is, he's got the Derby "failure" and a reputation as a solid number 2. Career wise, I don't think he can afford to tell HJ to shove it. [Post edited 13 Aug 2017 13:07]
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Agreed. But I don't think it's Jenkins so much now. Clement needs to get much more involved in transfers. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:58 - Aug 13 with 8015 views | TheResurrection |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement | People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs. Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time. |
Get minutes by fack... He's our marquee signing!!! | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 14:02 - Aug 13 with 7981 views | 3swan |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:58 - Aug 13 by TheResurrection | Get minutes by fack... He's our marquee signing!!! |
Agree he can only get into the pace of the game by playing. What I saw of him in his sub role against Sampdoria was very little to say he will start soon. | | | |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 14:04 - Aug 13 with 7955 views | r0ckin |
Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 by Highjack | Ok I'll ask the stupidly obvious question. How the hell is he going to get used to the tempo of the English game whilst sitting on the bench? |
Not the right game. | |
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 14:09 - Aug 13 with 7904 views | E20Jack | If we were talking about a midfield rock that he brought on in his place then I would see the point of the ''not the right game'' view. The fact he brought on Jay Fulton sort of negates that though. | |
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