| president trump on 18:00 - Jun 4 with 2032 views | londonlisa2001 |
| president trump on 17:48 - Jun 4 by dailew |
The ban applied to refugees as well.
His parents would never have been allowed in the UK in the first place. |
Oh, sorry - I didn't realise Trump's travel ban came with a time machine.
We should definitely have one of those then.
Where do you want to turn it back to? Do you have a date in mind? |  | |  |
| president trump on 18:03 - Jun 4 with 2019 views | londonlisa2001 |
| president trump on 17:59 - Jun 4 by exiledclaseboy |
And he was a UK citizen with a UK passport so if we were to refuse him entry he'd be living in an airport now like Tom Hanks in that rubbish film.
Edit - I see Lisa's already made this point. [Post edited 4 Jun 2017 18:00]
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To be fair, I didn't reference Tom Hanks in any way.
Anyway - it's something to do with a time machine apparently. I hadn't realised that detail. | | | |
| president trump on 18:06 - Jun 4 with 2012 views | dailew |
| president trump on 18:00 - Jun 4 by londonlisa2001 |
Oh, sorry - I didn't realise Trump's travel ban came with a time machine.
We should definitely have one of those then.
Where do you want to turn it back to? Do you have a date in mind? |
About 1990 would have been good. |  |
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| president trump on 18:19 - Jun 4 with 1988 views | londonlisa2001 |
| president trump on 18:06 - Jun 4 by dailew |
About 1990 would have been good. |
I'm sure that if there was a way of stopping the parents of anyone that had ever committed any attrocity either entering the country, or indeed giving birth if they have always been here, everyone would vote enthusiastically in favour.
But that's not what you said. You said Trump's travel ban (by which I assume you mean one proposed by a president who has only been in office for 5 months, not since 1990), may have prevented Manchester. | | | |
| president trump on 18:22 - Jun 4 with 1977 views | johnlangy |
| president trump on 17:50 - Jun 4 by icecoldjack |
Is the uncomfortable truth for many . |
No it's not. It's idiotic. | | | |
| president trump on 18:36 - Jun 4 with 1957 views | dailew |
| president trump on 18:19 - Jun 4 by londonlisa2001 |
I'm sure that if there was a way of stopping the parents of anyone that had ever committed any attrocity either entering the country, or indeed giving birth if they have always been here, everyone would vote enthusiastically in favour.
But that's not what you said. You said Trump's travel ban (by which I assume you mean one proposed by a president who has only been in office for 5 months, not since 1990), may have prevented Manchester. |
OK.
Fair enough I was wrong.
But I still maintain what he's trying to do and what the UK should also be doing will make things safer in the future. No muslim immigration or refugees.
Look at the failed 21st July 2005 bombings. Nearly all the terrorists were children of refugees/asylum seekers or refugees themselves.
All six now in jail at huge expense. | |
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| president trump on 18:45 - Jun 4 with 1944 views | londonlisa2001 |
| president trump on 18:36 - Jun 4 by dailew |
OK.
Fair enough I was wrong.
But I still maintain what he's trying to do and what the UK should also be doing will make things safer in the future. No muslim immigration or refugees.
Look at the failed 21st July 2005 bombings. Nearly all the terrorists were children of refugees/asylum seekers or refugees themselves.
All six now in jail at huge expense. |
Ok.
One measure I would have no problem in accepting (I don't agree with your suggestion you'll be unsurprised to learn), actually supporting, is that anyone that leaves the UK to join IS should be prevented from returning if at all possible. | | | |
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| president trump on 19:30 - Jun 4 with 1865 views | icecoldjack |
| president trump on 18:22 - Jun 4 by johnlangy |
No it's not. It's idiotic. |
A man doing what he is elected to do is not idiotic, the people who voted for him however.. |  | | |
| president trump on 19:48 - Jun 4 with 1853 views | pencoedjack |
| president trump on 17:36 - Jun 4 by Tummer_from_Texas |
He still arrived back in the UK with a Libyan stamp on his passport though, correct? Or did he find a way around that? |
He was on the police list of being a suspect in terroist activities
He should have had his passport confiscated
Forgot we do that to people who have a brawl at a football match better not upset people with different backgrounds |  | | |
| president trump on 21:07 - Jun 4 with 1817 views | phact0rri |
| president trump on 19:48 - Jun 4 by pencoedjack |
He was on the police list of being a suspect in terroist activities
He should have had his passport confiscated
Forgot we do that to people who have a brawl at a football match better not upset people with different backgrounds |
THIS.
Problem is (and its the same in the US) that to often these attacks are quite obvious to those looking at them after the fact. there's a problem with the data that is freely being reported by security, law and forcement and other state agents. In a world where they are snapping up illegal meta data and survaling their citizens they are not listening to the data from other parts of the governmental body.
And these loud mouth biggots like the US president, doesn't seem to realize that protecting the citizens of the country means ALL OF THEM. not just the white ones. |  |
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| president trump on 21:10 - Jun 4 with 1810 views | Highjack |
| president trump on 18:06 - Jun 4 by dailew |
About 1990 would have been good. |
In 1990 Trump was spending his days directing small unaccompanied children to the lobby in the Plaza Hotel New York. |  |
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| president trump on 21:57 - Jun 4 with 1766 views | Jackanapes |
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“The stupidest thing she knew was for people to act like they knew all about the things they knew absolutely nothing about.†|
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| president trump on 21:59 - Jun 4 with 1756 views | Highjack |
"Excuse me sir, where's the lobby"
"Over there ya lil sh"t"
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| president trump on 16:40 - Jun 5 with 1624 views | londonlisa2001 |
I see he's surpassed himself today. More untruths about Khan.
Serious question to Tummer or any other of our American friends, if the U.K. Prime Minster, the day after an attack in, say New York, criticised (based on a falsehood) the Mayor of New York in the way that Trump has with our Mayor, what would be the reaction in the US? | | | |
| president trump on 16:52 - Jun 5 with 1601 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| president trump on 16:40 - Jun 5 by londonlisa2001 |
I see he's surpassed himself today. More untruths about Khan.
Serious question to Tummer or any other of our American friends, if the U.K. Prime Minster, the day after an attack in, say New York, criticised (based on a falsehood) the Mayor of New York in the way that Trump has with our Mayor, what would be the reaction in the US? |
As always, it would all be dependent on their respective political ideologies.
Objective thought in these matters is a thing of the past, if it ever existed at all. |  |
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| president trump on 16:56 - Jun 5 with 1591 views | londonlisa2001 |
| president trump on 16:52 - Jun 5 by Tummer_from_Texas |
As always, it would all be dependent on their respective political ideologies.
Objective thought in these matters is a thing of the past, if it ever existed at all. |
A terror attack is seen as fair political game then in US politics these days? So a right wing UK PM would be applauded in right wing American if she criticised a Democrat Mayor?
You won't have seen by the way that the US Ambassador to the UK has publicly set Trump adrift on this. | | | |
| president trump on 17:33 - Jun 5 with 1557 views | monmouth |
| president trump on 16:56 - Jun 5 by londonlisa2001 |
A terror attack is seen as fair political game then in US politics these days? So a right wing UK PM would be applauded in right wing American if she criticised a Democrat Mayor?
You won't have seen by the way that the US Ambassador to the UK has publicly set Trump adrift on this. |
It's ok. By tomorrow, he'll never have actually said it. Or something. |  |
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| president trump on 19:20 - Jun 5 with 1514 views | nyc_swans |
| president trump on 16:40 - Jun 5 by londonlisa2001 |
I see he's surpassed himself today. More untruths about Khan.
Serious question to Tummer or any other of our American friends, if the U.K. Prime Minster, the day after an attack in, say New York, criticised (based on a falsehood) the Mayor of New York in the way that Trump has with our Mayor, what would be the reaction in the US? |
in a vacuum it would be the same. fact of the matter is that trump's comments were certainly motivated by the fact that the london mayor is a muslim. |  | | |
| president trump on 19:43 - Jun 5 with 1489 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
London Bridge terrorist Khuram Shazad Butt entered the UK as a "refugee" with his parents from Pakistan.
If only people were as concerned about this as they are about critical words from a foreign leader whom they don't take seriously anyway. | |
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| president trump on 19:45 - Jun 5 with 1481 views | Lohengrin |
| president trump on 19:43 - Jun 5 by Tummer_from_Texas |
London Bridge terrorist Khuram Shazad Butt entered the UK as a "refugee" with his parents from Pakistan.
If only people were as concerned about this as they are about critical words from a foreign leader whom they don't take seriously anyway. |
A fine point, sir. |  |
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| president trump on 19:52 - Jun 5 with 1462 views | nyc_swans |
| president trump on 19:45 - Jun 5 by Lohengrin |
A fine point, sir. |
what's the point? there are more than a million Pakistanis in britian. | | | |
| president trump on 19:55 - Jun 5 with 1455 views | exiledclaseboy |
| president trump on 19:43 - Jun 5 by Tummer_from_Texas |
London Bridge terrorist Khuram Shazad Butt entered the UK as a "refugee" with his parents from Pakistan.
If only people were as concerned about this as they are about critical words from a foreign leader whom they don't take seriously anyway. |
I don't do this very often, if ever these days. But f*ck off is it you righteous prick. There are plenty of other threads discussing what happened on Saturday and tge causes and effects. I started this one to draw attention to the continued f*ckwittery of your "president" who continues to shame both your country and the office that people like you managed to stumble into voting him into. You all deserve each other. |  |
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| president trump on 19:59 - Jun 5 with 1434 views | Lohengrin |
| president trump on 19:55 - Jun 5 by exiledclaseboy |
I don't do this very often, if ever these days. But f*ck off is it you righteous prick. There are plenty of other threads discussing what happened on Saturday and tge causes and effects. I started this one to draw attention to the continued f*ckwittery of your "president" who continues to shame both your country and the office that people like you managed to stumble into voting him into. You all deserve each other. |
He does have a good point, Clase. The folk on here who continually bang on about awful Trump is are the same ones hanging on his every pronouncement.  | |
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| president trump on 20:00 - Jun 5 with 1428 views | Jack_Kass |
I feel safer in the US at the moment, than I would back home in the UK
Think how bonkers that statement should be. | |
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