| Cardiff city fear administration on 14:40 - Jan 26 with 1759 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 14:17 - Jan 26 by Dr_Winston |
I wouldn't expect a different response if one of yours was asked the same question Scoobs. |
Yeah possibly a few Dr but not all of us, that's why a few of us contributed in your hour of need, but that's all in the past mate in it.
To be honest I couldn't give a flying one what you lot think, it's well out of our control so we have to go with it, similar to you lot I suppose, you just got to trust the people that are running the club to do the right thing, we are just supporters, or in our case customers according to the Emperor. [Post edited 26 Jan 2016 14:42]
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:12 - Jan 26 with 1578 views | Edmundo |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 14:40 - Jan 26 by ScoobyDoo |
Yeah possibly a few Dr but not all of us, that's why a few of us contributed in your hour of need, but that's all in the past mate in it.
To be honest I couldn't give a flying one what you lot think, it's well out of our control so we have to go with it, similar to you lot I suppose, you just got to trust the people that are running the club to do the right thing, we are just supporters, or in our case customers according to the Emperor. [Post edited 26 Jan 2016 14:42]
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Not many team's supporters are anything but customers, regardless of who owns or runs the club.
Personally I never used to think of myself as a customer, until we got to the Premier League. Things have changed since leaving the Vetch, some for the better, some not so! |  |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:22 - Jan 26 with 1550 views | Highjack |
Is that right about legoland being leased by the council? I thought the club owned it and they have been very vocal and critical about our council arrangement for years. |  |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:48 - Jan 26 with 1513 views | blueytheblue |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:22 - Jan 26 by Highjack |
Is that right about legoland being leased by the council? I thought the club owned it and they have been very vocal and critical about our council arrangement for years. |
We own the stadium. | |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:51 - Jan 26 with 1500 views | swanjackal |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:48 - Jan 26 by blueytheblue |
We own the stadium. |
But do the club own the land it's on....the thing valuable in a sale to a developer? [Post edited 26 Jan 2016 18:52]
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:54 - Jan 26 with 1492 views | blueytheblue |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:51 - Jan 26 by swanjackal |
But do the club own the land it's on....the thing valuable in a sale to a developer? [Post edited 26 Jan 2016 18:52]
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Not sure, don't believe so.
If that land was so valuable in a sale to developers the council would have flogged it a long time ago rather relying upon a football club getting the retail park developed... | |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:54 - Jan 26 with 1487 views | Swanjaxs |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 14:40 - Jan 26 by ScoobyDoo |
Yeah possibly a few Dr but not all of us, that's why a few of us contributed in your hour of need, but that's all in the past mate in it.
To be honest I couldn't give a flying one what you lot think, it's well out of our control so we have to go with it, similar to you lot I suppose, you just got to trust the people that are running the club to do the right thing, we are just supporters, or in our case customers according to the Emperor. [Post edited 26 Jan 2016 14:42]
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If you couldn't give a flying one what we think then don't contribute to this thread. .. bye bye ☺ |  |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 19:08 - Jan 26 with 1450 views | swanjackal |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:54 - Jan 26 by blueytheblue |
Not sure, don't believe so.
If that land was so valuable in a sale to developers the council would have flogged it a long time ago rather relying upon a football club getting the retail park developed... |
True, but it must devalue the stadium though. Also, is there any agreement in the land lease that the area has to be used in a specific way?
I'm not sure on any of this, just what I have picked up from conversations off some who claim to know . | |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 19:24 - Jan 26 with 1427 views | DDCH |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 19:08 - Jan 26 by swanjackal |
True, but it must devalue the stadium though. Also, is there any agreement in the land lease that the area has to be used in a specific way?
I'm not sure on any of this, just what I have picked up from conversations off some who claim to know . |
Was told a long time ago who's Mrs worked for the local council, that the land was owned by the council and on a long term lease. The regime at the time of build were not trusted after what happened at Wimbledon. So CCFC own the steel and seats, and can pick it up and move it wherever they want (lucky it's made of lego then) |  |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 19:35 - Jan 26 with 1405 views | monmouth |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 19:24 - Jan 26 by DDCH |
Was told a long time ago who's Mrs worked for the local council, that the land was owned by the council and on a long term lease. The regime at the time of build were not trusted after what happened at Wimbledon. So CCFC own the steel and seats, and can pick it up and move it wherever they want (lucky it's made of lego then) |
That's a shame. If the Tan arse owned the land it could get quite entertaining when the parachutes cease....it will anyway I reckon. Is that the end of next season? If they're umbongoed now God help them then.
Oh, and I heard from a pain in the arse work colleague that they are going to be in profit? So the Tan Man will be able to pay himself dividends out of parachute? Are there any other shareholders left now? I suppose if he's writing off his loan interest it's unlikely, to be fair to him. It was a good ruse to get said work rodent scurrying away though. |  |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 19:59 - Jan 26 with 1388 views | plasjack |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 19:24 - Jan 26 by DDCH |
Was told a long time ago who's Mrs worked for the local council, that the land was owned by the council and on a long term lease. The regime at the time of build were not trusted after what happened at Wimbledon. So CCFC own the steel and seats, and can pick it up and move it wherever they want (lucky it's made of lego then) |
Correct, Cardiff City Council own the stadium and land, but CCFC have a long lease to play football there, or try to play hoofball. |  | | |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:13 - Jan 26 with 1367 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:54 - Jan 26 by Swanjaxs |
If you couldn't give a flying one what we think then don't contribute to this thread. .. bye bye ☺ |
I'll contribute all I want bud as I don't take notice of ilks like you. | | | |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:17 - Jan 26 with 1352 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:13 - Jan 26 by ScoobyDoo |
I'll contribute all I want bud as I don't take notice of ilks like you. |
You don't take notice, yet you end up responding.
That's sensible! | |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:20 - Jan 26 with 1338 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:17 - Jan 26 by EvenThisNameIsTaken |
You don't take notice, yet you end up responding.
That's sensible! |
Just saying as it is bud. | | | |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:23 - Jan 26 with 1329 views | Dewi1jack |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 18:48 - Jan 26 by blueytheblue |
We own the stadium. |
No.
Langston own the stadium until all debt owing to them is paid off.
Like having a car on HP or a mortgage on a house.
Yours on the final payment.
Snatch back with bailiffs if you can't or won't pay, should you lose in Court.
Is this part of Uncle Vinnys plan to bring Scam Theman back in a full time capacity? Maybe under advisement from your famous author and all the other club spokesmen.
Puppydoo will be along in a min to tell us all about our history under previous regimes |  |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:27 - Jan 26 with 1314 views | LeonisGod |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 19:59 - Jan 26 by plasjack |
Correct, Cardiff City Council own the stadium and land, but CCFC have a long lease to play football there, or try to play hoofball. |
Yep. I was surprised to hear that, but the details are on the normally reliable Swiss Ramble site:
"The club’s net contribution to the new stadium on completion of the core build was £26 million with other funding being provided by the local council, who granted Cardiff a 150-year lease for an annual rent of £180,000. In addition, the club paid the council £720,000 on promotion to the Premier League."
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/cardiff-city-bullet-blue-sky.html?m=1
Their finances don't make for good reading for Cardiff fans. Those who are crying out for us to break the bank might want to reflect on that. |  | | |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:37 - Jan 26 with 1293 views | blueytheblue |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:27 - Jan 26 by LeonisGod |
Yep. I was surprised to hear that, but the details are on the normally reliable Swiss Ramble site:
"The club’s net contribution to the new stadium on completion of the core build was £26 million with other funding being provided by the local council, who granted Cardiff a 150-year lease for an annual rent of £180,000. In addition, the club paid the council £720,000 on promotion to the Premier League."
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/cardiff-city-bullet-blue-sky.html?m=1
Their finances don't make for good reading for Cardiff fans. Those who are crying out for us to break the bank might want to reflect on that. |
Club contribution from memory was a lot more than that. Given the retail park was basically organised through CCFC, I'd take those figures with a pinch of salt.
With regards to the stadium, I know the council put in a clause it couldn't be sold for 20 years - the length of the Cardiff Blues tenancy, till they worked out they'd go bankrupt unless let out of the deal. Council wanted to prevent Hammam selling the stadium straight away. | |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:39 - Jan 26 with 1286 views | Swanjaxs |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:13 - Jan 26 by ScoobyDoo |
I'll contribute all I want bud as I don't take notice of ilks like you. |
Yes it's a free world bud..... just had to pull you up on your little contradiction ðŸ‘👠| |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:39 - Jan 26 with 1282 views | swanjackal |
I think the club holding company do own the stadium, not sure how they initially afforded it, but they own the stadium itself. Also I do believe that most debt is under Tan's name too, barring the Langston debacle. And profit is really only likely from creative accounting (personally writing off monies owed to himself ). What I don't understand though, is why would Tan go through administration now. Without really being able to sell his only large assett (Stadium), he stands to lose a fortune off the bat. Poor journalism I feel.
I think he may reconsider when the parachute payments cease, and the losses become overbearing , but this court case is hardly going to make a ripple, unless there is more to it. | |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:52 - Jan 26 with 1253 views | Swanjaxs |
The sooner that pile of shytt gets the rug pulled the better! If they went under tomorrow it wouldn't be a day too soon..... | |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 21:52 - Jan 26 with 1181 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 20:39 - Jan 26 by Swanjaxs |
Yes it's a free world bud..... just had to pull you up on your little contradiction ðŸ‘👠|
Contradiction is the password on here bud, but you are right in one way it is a free world. Well done you. | | | |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 21:58 - Jan 26 with 1169 views | Swanjaxs |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 21:52 - Jan 26 by ScoobyDoo |
Contradiction is the password on here bud, but you are right in one way it is a free world. Well done you. |
Thanks for the compliment bud ðŸ‘So getting back to the original thread.... do you fear administration? That would surely mean curtains for our capital team yes... | |
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| Cardiff city fear administration on 22:04 - Jan 26 with 1150 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 21:58 - Jan 26 by Swanjaxs |
Thanks for the compliment bud ðŸ‘So getting back to the original thread.... do you fear administration? That would surely mean curtains for our capital team yes... |
No problem bud, administration should have come a few years back, do I fear it? Wouldn't anyone! As I said earlier though, all out of our hands. | | | |
| Cardiff city fear administration on 10:59 - Jan 27 with 1045 views | Whiterockin |
"He could sell off the assets the club has, most likely players, but the most valuable asset, Cardiff City Stadium itself, valued at around £50m, is actually on a long-term lease from Cardiff Council."
Does this mean that they do not own the stadium only lease if from the council? Basically the same us us? |  | | |
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