| Blackpool game abandoned 17:02 - Jul 11 with 39751 views | dalebolt |
Blackpools friendly against Lancaster has been abandoned, again due to fans refusing to leave the pitch. I wonder if they have anything planned for the 15th August? |  | | |  |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 10:31 - Jul 20 with 4316 views | ParkinsGimp |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 13:48 - Jul 13 by D_Alien |
What happens? I'll tell you what'll happen.
You (and your mates) will be arrested and possibly banned for life, but not before you've had your heads kicked in.
Go ahead, make our day.
LOL
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LOL might not be a bad thing eh...not have to put up with so many deluded fans ...LOL |  | | |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 15:44 - Jul 20 with 4054 views | tangerine77 |
I wouldn't worry about the game being abandoned, the ones likely to go on the pitch refuse to attend home games. Iam sure you understand the position we are in, we don't care about point deductions, fines or behind closed door games. Anything that hits the Oystons in the pocket is good. | | | |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 15:55 - Jul 20 with 4015 views | tazzydjr |
so your allocation is actually bigger than the quoted "999" |  |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 16:02 - Jul 20 with 3996 views | Brierls |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 15:55 - Jul 20 by tazzydjr |
so your allocation is actually bigger than the quoted "999" |
The chap is saying 900 hundred fans can sound like 9000 in that stand. Nothing to do with allocation. |  | | |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 16:32 - Jul 20 with 3950 views | tangerine77 |
Yeah i was meaning the acoustics of the stand will make it sound like more, you will easily outsing us home fans. | | | |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 18:43 - Jul 20 with 3821 views | ColDale |
8 days on, got a reply from the FL. To say they're not bothered would be an understatement:
Thank you for your email.
As per our Customer Charter we endeavour to respond to communication with 7 working days of receipt.
With regards to your query, this would be determined in relation to the home club's ticketing policies.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Regards,
Andrew Pomfret
Customer Services Department
The Football League Limited
Still awaiting a reply from Blackpool |  | | |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 18:52 - Jul 20 with 3800 views | SuddenLad |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 18:43 - Jul 20 by ColDale |
8 days on, got a reply from the FL. To say they're not bothered would be an understatement:
Thank you for your email.
As per our Customer Charter we endeavour to respond to communication with 7 working days of receipt.
With regards to your query, this would be determined in relation to the home club's ticketing policies.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Regards,
Andrew Pomfret
Customer Services Department
The Football League Limited
Still awaiting a reply from Blackpool |
I wonder whether that would be considered 'a suitable response' if a collective 'class action' was initiated against Blackpool and the FA in the County Court by football supporters, or in the event of further disruptions and Police enquiries.
To say they are useless and uninterested is an understatement. |  |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 18:57 - Jul 20 with 3776 views | D_Alien |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 18:43 - Jul 20 by ColDale |
8 days on, got a reply from the FL. To say they're not bothered would be an understatement:
Thank you for your email.
As per our Customer Charter we endeavour to respond to communication with 7 working days of receipt.
With regards to your query, this would be determined in relation to the home club's ticketing policies.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Regards,
Andrew Pomfret
Customer Services Department
The Football League Limited
Still awaiting a reply from Blackpool |
Thanks for the update Col. I'll be contacting them personally about this. |  |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:06 - Jul 20 with 3751 views | 442Dale |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 18:43 - Jul 20 by ColDale |
8 days on, got a reply from the FL. To say they're not bothered would be an understatement:
Thank you for your email.
As per our Customer Charter we endeavour to respond to communication with 7 working days of receipt.
With regards to your query, this would be determined in relation to the home club's ticketing policies.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Regards,
Andrew Pomfret
Customer Services Department
The Football League Limited
Still awaiting a reply from Blackpool |
Would it be worth forwarding this onto Sky as others have suggested? By emphasising that this individual game could be potentially disrupted and the game as a whole brought into disrepute, would they not be concerned that their own company may be tarnished?
Of course it is a token effort, but by copying in the FL and maybe a comment about the Trust seeking further advice on behalf of Dale fans from whichever bodies cover customer complaints may get a further response.
If nothing else, irritate the League. Tell both them and Sky all correspondence will be made public. Oh, and drop in the name David Conn or someone of his ilk. |  |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:18 - Jul 20 with 3726 views | D_Alien |
I've just sent this, with my full name and address:
Dear Sir
As a supporter of Rochdale AFC since 1965, I've been informed that this response was received by the Dale Trust in respect of an enquiry about the likelihood of customers travelling to this fixture and not being allowed to enjoy the full game through a failure by your organisation to ensure the fixture can be fulfilled.
"Thank you for your email.
As per our Customer Charter we endeavour to respond to communication with 7 working days of receipt.
With regards to your query, this would be determined in relation to the home club's ticketing policies.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Regards,
Andrew Pomfret
Customer Services Department
The Football League Limited"
Please be informed that your organisation is responsible for this fixture being held, as part of a competition under your aegis. In the event that the game isn't completed, when it is known several weeks in advance that this is a likely outcome, your organisation will be held responsible and legal proceedings will be commenced to seek full recompense for any loss suffered by customers, both in terms of entry fees and travelling expenses.
You simply cannot try to evade your responsibilities here, just as for instance, a supermarket cannot do so if it advertises a product with the full knowledge that the product is likely to be unavailable in it's entirety to customers; that is, if a product is bought and only half the contents of the package are found to be contained within, and this was sold with that full knowledge.
I suggest you take further advice and reply to this enquiry with a little more common sense and understanding of your obligations to customers in this matter.
Regards | |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:21 - Jul 20 with 3706 views | DomDale |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 18:43 - Jul 20 by ColDale |
8 days on, got a reply from the FL. To say they're not bothered would be an understatement:
Thank you for your email.
As per our Customer Charter we endeavour to respond to communication with 7 working days of receipt.
With regards to your query, this would be determined in relation to the home club's ticketing policies.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Regards,
Andrew Pomfret
Customer Services Department
The Football League Limited
Still awaiting a reply from Blackpool |
I work with a huddersfield fan. He said none of their lot have got any form of refund. Obviously a tad different as it was a dead rubber game and the score at abandonment stood. But in our case we could conceivably be winning comfortably given the pick n mix squad they have and have the match abandoned and have to replay.
Really in two minds with what to do. I really want to go to this but £25 plus transport beer etc to probably watch a game get abandoned doesn't sit well with me. |  |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:24 - Jul 20 with 3696 views | D_Alien |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:21 - Jul 20 by DomDale |
I work with a huddersfield fan. He said none of their lot have got any form of refund. Obviously a tad different as it was a dead rubber game and the score at abandonment stood. But in our case we could conceivably be winning comfortably given the pick n mix squad they have and have the match abandoned and have to replay.
Really in two minds with what to do. I really want to go to this but £25 plus transport beer etc to probably watch a game get abandoned doesn't sit well with me. |
I'll make the point again. It wasn't known that there was going to be an abandonment of the fixture v Hudddersfield.
This time, the FL know full well this is a likely outcome. That puts them under a completely different obligation. | |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:30 - Jul 20 with 3667 views | 442Dale |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:18 - Jul 20 by D_Alien |
I've just sent this, with my full name and address:
Dear Sir
As a supporter of Rochdale AFC since 1965, I've been informed that this response was received by the Dale Trust in respect of an enquiry about the likelihood of customers travelling to this fixture and not being allowed to enjoy the full game through a failure by your organisation to ensure the fixture can be fulfilled.
"Thank you for your email.
As per our Customer Charter we endeavour to respond to communication with 7 working days of receipt.
With regards to your query, this would be determined in relation to the home club's ticketing policies.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Regards,
Andrew Pomfret
Customer Services Department
The Football League Limited"
Please be informed that your organisation is responsible for this fixture being held, as part of a competition under your aegis. In the event that the game isn't completed, when it is known several weeks in advance that this is a likely outcome, your organisation will be held responsible and legal proceedings will be commenced to seek full recompense for any loss suffered by customers, both in terms of entry fees and travelling expenses.
You simply cannot try to evade your responsibilities here, just as for instance, a supermarket cannot do so if it advertises a product with the full knowledge that the product is likely to be unavailable in it's entirety to customers; that is, if a product is bought and only half the contents of the package are found to be contained within, and this was sold with that full knowledge.
I suggest you take further advice and reply to this enquiry with a little more common sense and understanding of your obligations to customers in this matter.
Regards |
That's excellent. | |
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:39 - Jul 20 with 3639 views | tangerine77 |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 18:43 - Jul 20 by ColDale |
8 days on, got a reply from the FL. To say they're not bothered would be an understatement:
Thank you for your email.
As per our Customer Charter we endeavour to respond to communication with 7 working days of receipt.
With regards to your query, this would be determined in relation to the home club's ticketing policies.
Thank you for contacting The Football League.
Regards,
Andrew Pomfret
Customer Services Department
The Football League Limited
Still awaiting a reply from Blackpool |
You'll have a long wait, the only time they have any contact with the fans is when they are suing them. | | | |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 20:17 - Jul 20 with 3567 views | ColDale |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 19:24 - Jul 20 by D_Alien |
I'll make the point again. It wasn't known that there was going to be an abandonment of the fixture v Hudddersfield.
This time, the FL know full well this is a likely outcome. That puts them under a completely different obligation. |
For me, this is the key thing.
A weather related abandonment is one of those freaks of nature that (within reason) nobody can anticipate or do anything about. This is a controllable circumstance, and is anticipated several weeks in advance.
At a ground that was fit for Premiership football, with the most expensive admission price in the division, it is perfectly reasonable to expect Blackpool to be able to host a home match, and offer a full replacement ticket should they fall short in their ability to host a game. | | | |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 20:39 - Jul 20 with 3507 views | TalkingSutty |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 20:17 - Jul 20 by ColDale |
For me, this is the key thing.
A weather related abandonment is one of those freaks of nature that (within reason) nobody can anticipate or do anything about. This is a controllable circumstance, and is anticipated several weeks in advance.
At a ground that was fit for Premiership football, with the most expensive admission price in the division, it is perfectly reasonable to expect Blackpool to be able to host a home match, and offer a full replacement ticket should they fall short in their ability to host a game. |
It's a bit of an insult that Blackpool Football Club themselves haven't been in touch regarding compensating away supporters should the game be abandoned. I would also expect our own Football Club to make some sort of representation on the fans behalf, that would carry more weight than the supporters trust going down that route.
The obvious answer to the problem is to give the game a miss but supporters shouldn't be put in that situation. The FL are turning a blind eye to this and putting it in the 'Too hard to do tray', in the meantime Supporters are again left to carry the can. Visiting fans from around the country should be urged to take legal action against the FL should games fail to be completed. It's not just the cost of the ticket but also travelling expenses and refreshments etc. |  | | |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 21:08 - Jul 20 with 3428 views | TalkingSutty |
The main point though is that the FL are aware of the problem now and weren't prior to the Huddersfield game. A couple of weeks ago another Blackpool fixture was abandoned and still it appears that the FL don't give a jot about the paying public. The Oystens will soon start to sit up if they have to start reimbursing supporters their entrance fee. | | | |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 21:54 - Jul 20 with 3336 views | D_Alien |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 20:39 - Jul 20 by TalkingSutty |
It's a bit of an insult that Blackpool Football Club themselves haven't been in touch regarding compensating away supporters should the game be abandoned. I would also expect our own Football Club to make some sort of representation on the fans behalf, that would carry more weight than the supporters trust going down that route.
The obvious answer to the problem is to give the game a miss but supporters shouldn't be put in that situation. The FL are turning a blind eye to this and putting it in the 'Too hard to do tray', in the meantime Supporters are again left to carry the can. Visiting fans from around the country should be urged to take legal action against the FL should games fail to be completed. It's not just the cost of the ticket but also travelling expenses and refreshments etc. |
It's also unfair on the football team, who'll be expected to train and prepare for the fixture to last a full 90+ minutes - to take the field with significantly less support in the stands than might otherwise be the case.
If I don't get a satisfactory response from the FL, I'll follow up with this very point - that they, through their negligence, are in effect allowing Blackpool an unfair advantage in terms of the level of support for their team during the game. Nothing less than a written guarantee that any financial losses suffered by visiting fans will be recompensed will do. The thought that this could set a precedent - and this situation is, I believe, unprecedented in FL history - might just be enough to stir them into action. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm not prepared to take this lying down either.
For me, the simple answer is to postpone the fixture until it's completion (weather conditions permitting) can be guaranteed. [Post edited 20 Jul 2015 21:59]
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 07:40 - Jul 21 with 3103 views | TalkingSutty |
| Blackpool game abandoned on 21:54 - Jul 20 by D_Alien |
It's also unfair on the football team, who'll be expected to train and prepare for the fixture to last a full 90+ minutes - to take the field with significantly less support in the stands than might otherwise be the case.
If I don't get a satisfactory response from the FL, I'll follow up with this very point - that they, through their negligence, are in effect allowing Blackpool an unfair advantage in terms of the level of support for their team during the game. Nothing less than a written guarantee that any financial losses suffered by visiting fans will be recompensed will do. The thought that this could set a precedent - and this situation is, I believe, unprecedented in FL history - might just be enough to stir them into action. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm not prepared to take this lying down either.
For me, the simple answer is to postpone the fixture until it's completion (weather conditions permitting) can be guaranteed. [Post edited 20 Jul 2015 21:59]
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I tend to agree with that. It's a game I was really looking forward too but the uncertainty surrounding the fixture as taken the gloss off it. Did Blackpool actually receive any punishment for the abandoning of the Huddesfield game or the recent friendly? [Post edited 21 Jul 2015 7:49]
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 08:04 - Jul 21 with 3070 views | DomDale |
Thanks for that.
So the state of play right now is that if it's abandoned mid way through I get nowt back or have to pay £12.50 (plus travel and other costs) to watch a replay of either a full match or the replayed time outstanding. Raw deal for travelling fans. Given the BFC fans want to hit Oyston in the pocket I'd like to think they'd be on our side so to speak but who knows.
As I said earlier given Blackpool have a pick n mix squad with no pre season to speak of and a club in dissaray it's not unthinkable for Dale to be winning comfortably and have the game abandoned. I won't suggest that our fans will cause trouble in that scenario but you've got to think that if one of the bigger teams in this league with more of a reputation for hooliganism turn up at Bloomfield road and are thrashing blackpool and have the match abandoned Lancs Police , BFC and their Stewards could have a lot to deal with that day. [Post edited 21 Jul 2015 8:06]
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| Blackpool game abandoned on 10:21 - Jul 21 with 2958 views | tazzydjr |
missed out two other governing bodies in that statement the Football Supporters' Federation & The FA i would go above both Blackpool's & The FL's head to get a proper answer about the fixture
I'm unhappy at both Blackpool & The FL responses and if it does get abandoned i will be advising fans who have traveled over to take them to small claims court for travel expenses, tickets, accommodation unless both The FSF & The FA comeback with far better responses than these two monkey's | |
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