| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. 10:09 - Mar 28 with 25874 views | Discodroids |
apologies i couldnt sort out the colours on this. i just thought i should put the 3 main parties first. i know ive missed respect among other s, just couldnt fit them in so no bias intended.
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 23:15 - Mar 30 with 1582 views | kensalriser |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 19:07 - Mar 30 by paulparker |
Well for one thing it would stop the tide of cheap foreign labour pouring into this country under cutting those who work in trade
Also they pledge to put 3 billion into a very run down NHS , abolish inheritance tax , cut what we send in foreign aid , and plan to withdraw from the European bill of human rights
As a voter those are the things that matter to me , if that makes me stupid or racist so be it
As I've said earlier Jamie why anyone would want to vote labour again is a mystery especially after the huge fcuk up they left the country in, a fcuk up we will be counting the cost of for many years to come |
You want to withdraw from the European Convention of Human Rights? Serious question - have you done any research on this? |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 23:50 - Mar 30 with 1557 views | Toast_R |
Voting UKIP. The media properganda against them has convinced me the main parties are scared of them. The ongoing incompetence of both Labour and Tories means neither deserves my vote. It's time for a someone else to have a go at running the country. |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 00:05 - Mar 31 with 1548 views | dsr_burnley |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 23:15 - Mar 30 by kensalriser |
You want to withdraw from the European Convention of Human Rights? Serious question - have you done any research on this? |
I want to withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights. Ever since they decided the IRA bombers in Gibraltar should have been allowed to go about their business, I've been agin them. They've done nothing to make me change my mind.
Bear in mind that part of the pan-European conventions is the abolition of habeas corpus for UK citizens. In most European countries, the police can hold you for as long as they like without charge. And under the European arrest warrant, there is no protection from wrongful arrest by a foreign jurisdiction.
I'd gladly give up the European Convention on Human Rights for the return of Habeas Corpus.
As Tony Hancock said, "Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain?" |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 01:59 - Mar 31 with 1495 views | FDC |
On the Greens: I've met and spoken politics with Natalie Bennet when she spoke at an event i helped organise. She genuinely seemed a really lovely person, for what it's worth, with politics that loosely chime with my own. I was impressed that she traveled a fair distance to speak in the knowledge that she'd be the most conservative person in the room.
I wasn't especially surprised by her car crash interview on LBC, as she'd discussed a lot of issues at our event by way of anecdote and to be honest I wasn't overly impressed by her as a public speaker. But I think it showed naivety on the part of the party at large more than anything else. For example, when Farage got nailed on the same station a handler bundled him out of the interview. I think the Greens are a bit amateur in their engagement with the media and at the realpolitik stuff. It depends what you want from your politicians I guess - whether you require them to have all the figures at their finger tips and to be media savvy. That Cameron and Miliband appear more composed and able to draw on facts and figures with relative ease is presumably down to an incredible amount of coaching and hard work. I guess the Greens (and UKIP) either don't have the resources and capacity to dedicate their energies to this kind of "professionalism", or simply don't think it matters as much since they don't really expect to be in government any way and think their time and energy is better spent on other activities. As far as I see it the Greens are the only party talking about genuinely transformative politics (UBI for eg) , so I guess if I were to vote I'd vote for them. [Post edited 31 Mar 2015 4:02]
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 07:38 - Mar 31 with 1413 views | AgedR |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 01:59 - Mar 31 by FDC |
On the Greens: I've met and spoken politics with Natalie Bennet when she spoke at an event i helped organise. She genuinely seemed a really lovely person, for what it's worth, with politics that loosely chime with my own. I was impressed that she traveled a fair distance to speak in the knowledge that she'd be the most conservative person in the room.
I wasn't especially surprised by her car crash interview on LBC, as she'd discussed a lot of issues at our event by way of anecdote and to be honest I wasn't overly impressed by her as a public speaker. But I think it showed naivety on the part of the party at large more than anything else. For example, when Farage got nailed on the same station a handler bundled him out of the interview. I think the Greens are a bit amateur in their engagement with the media and at the realpolitik stuff. It depends what you want from your politicians I guess - whether you require them to have all the figures at their finger tips and to be media savvy. That Cameron and Miliband appear more composed and able to draw on facts and figures with relative ease is presumably down to an incredible amount of coaching and hard work. I guess the Greens (and UKIP) either don't have the resources and capacity to dedicate their energies to this kind of "professionalism", or simply don't think it matters as much since they don't really expect to be in government any way and think their time and energy is better spent on other activities. As far as I see it the Greens are the only party talking about genuinely transformative politics (UBI for eg) , so I guess if I were to vote I'd vote for them. [Post edited 31 Mar 2015 4:02]
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Excellent post.
On a loosely connected theme, it could be argued that nearly all political discourse in prejudiced as it reflects the interests of a small, privileged elite (pretty much all the 'free' press). Standing against this is the public broadcaster, an absolutely integral pillar of the establishment.
As a result, both the terms of the debate and the difference in potential outcomes are limited. Just different ways of running the same system, ad infinitum. |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 07:46 - Mar 31 with 1411 views | ElHoop |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 01:59 - Mar 31 by FDC |
On the Greens: I've met and spoken politics with Natalie Bennet when she spoke at an event i helped organise. She genuinely seemed a really lovely person, for what it's worth, with politics that loosely chime with my own. I was impressed that she traveled a fair distance to speak in the knowledge that she'd be the most conservative person in the room.
I wasn't especially surprised by her car crash interview on LBC, as she'd discussed a lot of issues at our event by way of anecdote and to be honest I wasn't overly impressed by her as a public speaker. But I think it showed naivety on the part of the party at large more than anything else. For example, when Farage got nailed on the same station a handler bundled him out of the interview. I think the Greens are a bit amateur in their engagement with the media and at the realpolitik stuff. It depends what you want from your politicians I guess - whether you require them to have all the figures at their finger tips and to be media savvy. That Cameron and Miliband appear more composed and able to draw on facts and figures with relative ease is presumably down to an incredible amount of coaching and hard work. I guess the Greens (and UKIP) either don't have the resources and capacity to dedicate their energies to this kind of "professionalism", or simply don't think it matters as much since they don't really expect to be in government any way and think their time and energy is better spent on other activities. As far as I see it the Greens are the only party talking about genuinely transformative politics (UBI for eg) , so I guess if I were to vote I'd vote for them. [Post edited 31 Mar 2015 4:02]
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I have no idea as to which way to vote at the moment, but after yesterday I won't vote Labour. One day of campaigning and little old Ed has ruled me out. Incredible incompetence. No EU referendum in any circumstances. No negotiating position no nothing. He hasn't ruled out the SNP as part of some sort of vague agreement to get power, he hasn't ruled out another Scottish referendum no doubt, but he's ruled out an EU referendum. He's taking us for mugs well not me he isn't anyway. Day 1 and Labour are already out of this election. |  | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 07:48 - Mar 31 with 1407 views | Dorse |
I think the most disturbing thing about politics in the UK is that, as much as we hate certain politicians, somewhere there is a whole area of the country that said: "You know what? I've looked at the options and I really think (s)he is the one for me!"
Just think about it. A whole area of the UK voted for Michael Gove.* Seriously.
* In the interests of fair play, other tvvats are available. Consult your local parties for details. |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 08:10 - Mar 31 with 1396 views | FDC |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 07:48 - Mar 31 by Dorse |
I think the most disturbing thing about politics in the UK is that, as much as we hate certain politicians, somewhere there is a whole area of the country that said: "You know what? I've looked at the options and I really think (s)he is the one for me!"
Just think about it. A whole area of the UK voted for Michael Gove.* Seriously.
* In the interests of fair play, other tvvats are available. Consult your local parties for details. |
Parliamentary politics - in its current form certainly - is not fit for purpose, of that we can be sure (see also neo-liberalism). | | | |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 09:51 - Mar 31 with 1346 views | doogi55 |
patronising they only have 4 policies in there manifesto.
when you start to loose jobs cause we left europe who you going to blame. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:07 - Mar 31 with 1332 views | doogi55 |
pull out of europe when all the big car makers move there opperations to easrtern europe we wont be able to flood over there to get the
jobs.
pulling out of europe would be a big mistake.
human rights act protects you more than you realise because you take all your rights that have been earned by trade unionist over the years for granted,
leave the act and see those rights disappear. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:24 - Mar 31 with 1315 views | Jamie |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:07 - Mar 31 by doogi55 |
pull out of europe when all the big car makers move there opperations to easrtern europe we wont be able to flood over there to get the
jobs.
pulling out of europe would be a big mistake.
human rights act protects you more than you realise because you take all your rights that have been earned by trade unionist over the years for granted,
leave the act and see those rights disappear. |
Such is the mindset of UKIP and their followers. Don't want the rest of the world coming here, but want the rest of the world to base their businesses here.
One of the facts that Farage won't tell you is that Rolls Royce run a yearly apprenticeship intake at Goodwood. It's so undersubscribed locally that they are forced to fill the intakes partly from within the EU, but also largely from South Africa. A withdrawal from the EU would ironically cause one of the most successful British brands to move production out of the country, but then as with everything regarding UKIP, few within the party and none of its followers will have even considered such a conundrum. Just so long as 'less immurgrunts'.. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:24 - Mar 31 with 1315 views | ElHoop |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:07 - Mar 31 by doogi55 |
pull out of europe when all the big car makers move there opperations to easrtern europe we wont be able to flood over there to get the
jobs.
pulling out of europe would be a big mistake.
human rights act protects you more than you realise because you take all your rights that have been earned by trade unionist over the years for granted,
leave the act and see those rights disappear. |
Who says anything about pulling out of Europe? Cameron is not saying anything about it. He doesn't want to pull out. I doubt that he wants a referendum either - he would rather get a sensible deal with Europe so that immigration is controlled and the consequences of it can be planned. Little Ed Milliband represents a party with a long history of uncontrolled immigration and no plan for controlling it or even wanting a negotiation position from which to exercise some control or do anything at all on the subject in fact. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:27 - Mar 31 with 1310 views | ElHoop |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:24 - Mar 31 by Jamie |
Such is the mindset of UKIP and their followers. Don't want the rest of the world coming here, but want the rest of the world to base their businesses here.
One of the facts that Farage won't tell you is that Rolls Royce run a yearly apprenticeship intake at Goodwood. It's so undersubscribed locally that they are forced to fill the intakes partly from within the EU, but also largely from South Africa. A withdrawal from the EU would ironically cause one of the most successful British brands to move production out of the country, but then as with everything regarding UKIP, few within the party and none of its followers will have even considered such a conundrum. Just so long as 'less immurgrunts'.. |
So Jamie, you are very derogatory about other people's views on this.
Tell me Jamie, how many extra people are you going to plan for over the next ten years in terms of education, hospital services, housing and such like? Or don't you care?
How many Jamie? A number please. Tell me Jamie. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:33 - Mar 31 with 2164 views | doogi55 |
you cant control immegration if your in the eu you can make it harder for them to find work here and clame benifits but companys want them as they are cheaper labour. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:58 - Mar 31 with 2119 views | TheBlob |
Wouldn't touch a Royce since they got taken over by Volkswagen. |  |
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:59 - Mar 31 with 2111 views | doogi55 |
its not that your racist its just your blaming the wrong people | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:10 - Mar 31 with 2079 views | essextaxiboy |
I dont think you can argue with the Conservatives on Europe .
You dont like it as it is ? let us have a go at renegotiating the agreements then we will tell you what we have managed to change, We have the debate and then you vote.. In or Out .
Then we live with the result and the consequences of it good or bad . Thats got to be fair on both sides of the argument hasnt it ? [Post edited 31 Mar 2015 11:11]
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:10 - Mar 31 with 2081 views | Jamie |
The wages are extremely competitive, plus after 6 months of employment and over the age of 18 you are entitled to a heavily subsidised BMW group company car, plus private healthcare & dental. I have many friends working there, none of whom have a bad word to say. If I had my time again I'd have jumped all over the chance. Yet despite all that, local kids aren't interested.
So what other suggestions do you have for them to fill their intakes other than looking abroad? | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:25 - Mar 31 with 2056 views | Jamie |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 10:27 - Mar 31 by ElHoop |
So Jamie, you are very derogatory about other people's views on this.
Tell me Jamie, how many extra people are you going to plan for over the next ten years in terms of education, hospital services, housing and such like? Or don't you care?
How many Jamie? A number please. Tell me Jamie. |
I don't think I'm derogatory on peoples support of UKIP, it is entirely their right under a free democracy to vote for whomever they choose.
However, of those claiming allegiance to UKIP, only PP hadsbeen willing (or realistically able) to offer a reasoning other than the headline grabbing 'no more immurgrunts', and even that, the very well deserved increased NHS funding, is pie in the sky as UKIPs claimed source of funding for it has already been promised elsewhere.
It seems that pointing out the flaws in the equally incompetent Tory & Labour pledges is fair game, but pointing out the gaping holes in UKIP policy is off limits.
As for myself, I've stated several times on here that I took the opportunity under the freedom of EU migration and left for Hungary with my wife. Before that I lived in the UK town with the highest % of Eastern Europeans per capita in the country, yet I still don't support the policy of slamming the borders shut. Clearly I just don't get 'it'. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:27 - Mar 31 with 2056 views | ElHoop |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:25 - Mar 31 by Jamie |
I don't think I'm derogatory on peoples support of UKIP, it is entirely their right under a free democracy to vote for whomever they choose.
However, of those claiming allegiance to UKIP, only PP hadsbeen willing (or realistically able) to offer a reasoning other than the headline grabbing 'no more immurgrunts', and even that, the very well deserved increased NHS funding, is pie in the sky as UKIPs claimed source of funding for it has already been promised elsewhere.
It seems that pointing out the flaws in the equally incompetent Tory & Labour pledges is fair game, but pointing out the gaping holes in UKIP policy is off limits.
As for myself, I've stated several times on here that I took the opportunity under the freedom of EU migration and left for Hungary with my wife. Before that I lived in the UK town with the highest % of Eastern Europeans per capita in the country, yet I still don't support the policy of slamming the borders shut. Clearly I just don't get 'it'. |
Is there a number there somewhere? | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:37 - Mar 31 with 2040 views | Discodroids |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:27 - Mar 31 by ElHoop |
Is there a number there somewhere? |
i think he's a cyborg . so it will probably be in binary.
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:46 - Mar 31 with 2044 views | ElHoop |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:37 - Mar 31 by Discodroids |
i think he's a cyborg . so it will probably be in binary.
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He's not here and he doesn't care and he doesn't like UKIP, that's the answer I think. | | | |
| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 11:53 - Mar 31 with 2023 views | Dorse |
Well as far as Europe is concerned, I'm sick of it. I think we should just dig some sort of moat around the UK, fill it with water and those Johnny Foreigners can all just.... Hang on a minute.
I haven't really thought this through. [Post edited 31 Mar 2015 12:11]
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| LFW Election 2015 Straw Poll.. on 12:39 - Mar 31 with 1965 views | kensalriser |
If low pay is the problem, how about increasing the minimum wage and supporting collective bargaining? | |
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