| What has Monk & Co done to us??? 16:59 - Feb 1 with 22163 views | UplandsJack |
At game today and oh my god we are SHIT!!!
We are simply unrecognisable to the team of recent times...
We are playing with a back 3 (as Taylor is cooking useless)
And a front 2 of Gomis & Shelvey... Dyer might as well be at
Home the use he is... We are just kicking the ball upfield and
Giving away possession for them to attack again and again...
14% possession is an all time low for us while in PL...
The only suprise so far is that we are still in in ( of sorts) as its 0-0...
Let's hope the 2nd half offers us travelling Jacks a lot more!!!
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 16:41 - Feb 3 with 1610 views | jackonicko |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 16:33 - Feb 3 by acejack3065 |
f**k me what a tedious read in parts.
This really does personify the idea that the only person who wins an internet arguement is the one who refuses to give up.
It's another war of attrition and its only going to be won by whoever logs off last. Taking form into account, my money is on Dimi. |
Yes, but if you win a war of attrition, and you intended at the outset to win that way, is it a tactical masterclass? |  | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 16:59 - Feb 3 with 1597 views | acejack3065 |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 16:41 - Feb 3 by jackonicko |
Yes, but if you win a war of attrition, and you intended at the outset to win that way, is it a tactical masterclass? |
very good!  |  | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 17:27 - Feb 3 with 1569 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 16:28 - Feb 3 by bluenile |
Nope............................your just like a dog with a bone. |
..........but its a correct bone so all is ok.......... |  |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 17:28 - Feb 3 with 1564 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 16:33 - Feb 3 by bluenile |
And how will Lisa tell if she doesn't like your reply if she doesn't read it??....................Any chance you'll answer that? |
............. If there was a post i didnt like to the point where id spend the next half an hour suggesting why i didnt like it........ Maybe i wouldnt have read it all............ And stopped halfway through............ Or indeed dont bore everyone else with pointless tittle tattle........... easy when you think about............. It | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 17:31 - Feb 3 with 1561 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 16:16 - Feb 3 by londonlisa2001 |
I simply pointed out that your response appeared to address points that I hadn't made. You confirmed that to be the case.
I didn't ignore any of the rest of it - I didn't feel that you said anything which hadn't already been said by your posts prior to my post, so saw no need to discuss it further that's all. I can only apologise if you had wanted to debate a specific point with me. You didn't appear to raise anything new? Perhaps I'm mistaken. |
Yes you did and i confirmed that SOME of the points were not in direct response to you.
You did ignore it because you then went on to say none of my post was directed to what you had said, which isn't true now is it. You also brought up points that had been discussed previously, yet you think thats ok? Its a very odd set of debating perimeters you have, heavily weighted in your favour of course.
But by all means read it again and actually reply to the content rather than drone on about how you feel I shouldn't have replied how i did... Because i did for a reason. | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 17:41 - Feb 3 with 1552 views | londonlisa2001 |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 17:31 - Feb 3 by Parlay |
Yes you did and i confirmed that SOME of the points were not in direct response to you.
You did ignore it because you then went on to say none of my post was directed to what you had said, which isn't true now is it. You also brought up points that had been discussed previously, yet you think thats ok? Its a very odd set of debating perimeters you have, heavily weighted in your favour of course.
But by all means read it again and actually reply to the content rather than drone on about how you feel I shouldn't have replied how i did... Because i did for a reason. |
I've just had another read through (to be nice) and I still can't see what point you've made in terms of what I said in my original post that you hadn't previously made. So, I'm not sure what it is that you expect me to reply to? |  | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 17:45 - Feb 3 with 1542 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 17:41 - Feb 3 by londonlisa2001 |
I've just had another read through (to be nice) and I still can't see what point you've made in terms of what I said in my original post that you hadn't previously made. So, I'm not sure what it is that you expect me to reply to? |
I don't expect you to reply to anything. Maybe it was above your understanding. Ah well.
Now to the other thread where you seem to have made up a lie. You have been asked to back it up. Hop to it. | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 18:46 - Feb 3 with 1500 views | Tom1912 |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 12:50 - Feb 3 by Parlay |
Gomis' chance wasnt a good chance, they were getting the ball into our box at will and missed a load of headers. We could have been well and truly put to bed by half time on another day, and more often than not probably would have been. |
Yes it was. He set himself up well, and with a better connection would really have tested the keeper.
They might have been getting the ball into the box, but we dealt with it well. I don't see how a team having one good chance means we could have truly been put to bed by half time. | | | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 18:57 - Feb 3 with 1490 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 16:33 - Feb 3 by acejack3065 |
f**k me what a tedious read in parts.
This really does personify the idea that the only person who wins an internet arguement is the one who refuses to give up.
It's another war of attrition and its only going to be won by whoever logs off last. Taking form into account, my money is on Dimi. |
Sorry there is no "winner" in this argument, just differing opinions. | | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 19:19 - Feb 3 with 1472 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 18:46 - Feb 3 by Tom1912 |
Yes it was. He set himself up well, and with a better connection would really have tested the keeper.
They might have been getting the ball into the box, but we dealt with it well. I don't see how a team having one good chance means we could have truly been put to bed by half time. |
It wasnt. A good chance to me is a chance where the striker is expected to score.
You seem to think it was a good chance because it had the potential to "test the keeper". Thats a half chance. | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:11 - Feb 3 with 1435 views | londonlisa2001 |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 19:19 - Feb 3 by Parlay |
It wasnt. A good chance to me is a chance where the striker is expected to score.
You seem to think it was a good chance because it had the potential to "test the keeper". Thats a half chance. |
So apart from the chance they had early on, which other chances do you believe Southampton had where the striker was expected to score? Possibly I would say the one at the end that Pelle smashed about 20 feet over the bar, but apart from that I can't think of a chance where the striker would be expected to score? | | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:21 - Feb 3 with 1423 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:11 - Feb 3 by londonlisa2001 |
So apart from the chance they had early on, which other chances do you believe Southampton had where the striker was expected to score? Possibly I would say the one at the end that Pelle smashed about 20 feet over the bar, but apart from that I can't think of a chance where the striker would be expected to score? |
The two cleared off the line, Pelles at the end and Ward Prowses shot. Thats just off the top of my head.
That is 4 clear cut opportunities to our zero. | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:28 - Feb 3 with 1422 views | exiledclaseboy |
According to the Guardian's stats, Soton had four "shots on target" to our one. |  |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:34 - Feb 3 with 1408 views | londonlisa2001 |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:21 - Feb 3 by Parlay |
The two cleared off the line, Pelles at the end and Ward Prowses shot. Thats just off the top of my head.
That is 4 clear cut opportunities to our zero. |
I don't think the two off the line you would have expected the striker to score (for a start it goes without saying that he could have only scored one of them). The other two I have mentioned. | | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:36 - Feb 3 with 1399 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:34 - Feb 3 by londonlisa2001 |
I don't think the two off the line you would have expected the striker to score (for a start it goes without saying that he could have only scored one of them). The other two I have mentioned. |
Then you have low expectations of a Premier League footballer facing an open goal with a defender on the line.
Yes you mentioned them and they were clear opportunities. | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 10:46 - Feb 4 with 1298 views | bluenile |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:21 - Feb 3 by Parlay |
The two cleared off the line, Pelles at the end and Ward Prowses shot. Thats just off the top of my head.
That is 4 clear cut opportunities to our zero. |
Yes but they didn't score off them, but what if Ward-Prowse's first effort had gone in, and he'd hit it more accurately and firmer. A goal! However, we may then have gone on to win, say, 3-1................All your talk is hypothetical, it has to be, because we won................0-1. |  |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 11:17 - Feb 4 with 1285 views | acejack3065 |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 20:28 - Feb 3 by exiledclaseboy |
According to the Guardian's stats, Soton had four "shots on target" to our one. |
Don't even bother. Parley will only target something if he thinks he can run with it nowadays. In this instance it's interpreting Sundays match stats as he sees fit and brow beating Lisa in a semantic arguement. | | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 12:47 - Feb 4 with 1242 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 11:17 - Feb 4 by acejack3065 |
Don't even bother. Parley will only target something if he thinks he can run with it nowadays. In this instance it's interpreting Sundays match stats as he sees fit and brow beating Lisa in a semantic arguement. |
I thought you said on the other thread how you look at things objectively and do not goad, or was that one of your posts you do time to time for an applause like a Rikki Lake audience member?
How am I interpreting stats? where have i said Southampton didnt have 4 shots on target? I have correctly observed that we didnt create a single opportunity that we would be expected to score. Or do you think Shelvey will now be scoring from 30 yards every other shot week in week out?
Goals like that are so special for a reason, that reason being that they dont often come off.
So its safe to say if our game pan revolved around creating no clear chances while southampton created 4 clear chances, dominated possession, attacked at will from the flanks.... Dont you think that is a pretty crap game pan given the fact that the difference between the two teams isnt that big? | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 13:35 - Feb 4 with 1204 views | dameedna |
3 chances for us - 1 Gomis, 2 for Shelvey
3 for Souths - double off the line to count as one
it was not an even game, though but we scored one more and that was just enough
the massive scramble near the end was nerve wracking and I have not see so many long clearances and touchline blasts from us for a while
we can't play like that at home so let's see what that brings the one good thing is that most players will have gained some much needed confidence |  | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 13:43 - Feb 4 with 1195 views | acejack3065 |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 12:47 - Feb 4 by Parlay |
I thought you said on the other thread how you look at things objectively and do not goad, or was that one of your posts you do time to time for an applause like a Rikki Lake audience member?
How am I interpreting stats? where have i said Southampton didnt have 4 shots on target? I have correctly observed that we didnt create a single opportunity that we would be expected to score. Or do you think Shelvey will now be scoring from 30 yards every other shot week in week out?
Goals like that are so special for a reason, that reason being that they dont often come off.
So its safe to say if our game pan revolved around creating no clear chances while southampton created 4 clear chances, dominated possession, attacked at will from the flanks.... Dont you think that is a pretty crap game pan given the fact that the difference between the two teams isnt that big? |
I'm going to keep it short. At this point I don't care what you have to say on the matter because I've been able to work it out over the last 9 pages.
We hit the post, Gomis went close and Jonjo scored yet you have continually nattered on like we didn't have any chances in the game. Thats it.
Also you've berrated Lisa and argued semantics with her just to score points. You've reminded me of the person who makes loads of jokes in the tea room but can't wait to get to an industrial tribunal the second someone makes an off colour remark at their expense. | | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 14:08 - Feb 4 with 1161 views | perchrockjack |
ace.
Honest mate, this guy is not worth your time.
Im not sure if you re at work or at leisure when you post but I calculated I spend 1 hour, 19 mins 10 seconds in answering his posts.
Quite why I did so Im not really sure and its not something Im pleased about.
This poster is a fraud, a liar, hypcocrite, charlatan and utterly up his own ringpiece in every thought and deed.
Im all for exchanges and a little provocation but after a while you know the limits and this guy doesn't so put on ignore as I do and live life again. | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 14:17 - Feb 4 with 1145 views | acejack3065 |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 14:08 - Feb 4 by perchrockjack |
ace.
Honest mate, this guy is not worth your time.
Im not sure if you re at work or at leisure when you post but I calculated I spend 1 hour, 19 mins 10 seconds in answering his posts.
Quite why I did so Im not really sure and its not something Im pleased about.
This poster is a fraud, a liar, hypcocrite, charlatan and utterly up his own ringpiece in every thought and deed.
Im all for exchanges and a little provocation but after a while you know the limits and this guy doesn't so put on ignore as I do and live life again. |
I'm at lunch at the minute. I don't know why he's angling at me, apparenntly I'm a fraud and part of the forums problem.
If it gets tiresome I'll just stop typing. | | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 14:26 - Feb 4 with 1135 views | Le_Swans |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 12:47 - Feb 4 by Parlay |
I thought you said on the other thread how you look at things objectively and do not goad, or was that one of your posts you do time to time for an applause like a Rikki Lake audience member?
How am I interpreting stats? where have i said Southampton didnt have 4 shots on target? I have correctly observed that we didnt create a single opportunity that we would be expected to score. Or do you think Shelvey will now be scoring from 30 yards every other shot week in week out?
Goals like that are so special for a reason, that reason being that they dont often come off.
So its safe to say if our game pan revolved around creating no clear chances while southampton created 4 clear chances, dominated possession, attacked at will from the flanks.... Dont you think that is a pretty crap game pan given the fact that the difference between the two teams isnt that big? |
That game plan worked for Arsenal in the Etihad, which was lauded as one of their best away performances in many years. I'd imagine the stats are quite similar in both games, City dominated possession, attacked at will from the flanks etc.
I can't recall Arsenal creating much that day, two goals, one a pen and one a poorly defended free kick, nothing other than that, I guess Arsene Wenger doesn't know what he's doing either?
Sometimes, when you're away to a top team (and the Saints are at home), its not always about creating the chances, but stopping the opposing team converting theirs, which we did magnificently on Sunday, and then hoping for that bit of luck / magic to try and nick a win. | | | |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 14:53 - Feb 4 with 1109 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 13:43 - Feb 4 by acejack3065 |
I'm going to keep it short. At this point I don't care what you have to say on the matter because I've been able to work it out over the last 9 pages.
We hit the post, Gomis went close and Jonjo scored yet you have continually nattered on like we didn't have any chances in the game. Thats it.
Also you've berrated Lisa and argued semantics with her just to score points. You've reminded me of the person who makes loads of jokes in the tea room but can't wait to get to an industrial tribunal the second someone makes an off colour remark at their expense. |
1) if we hit the bar from a goal kick. Would that constitute a clear chance? You cannot call an effort from 30 yards as a clear chance, im sorry but you just cant.
2) where have i berated Lisa?
3) where have i argued semantics?
You remind me of that kid in the schoolyard who cries foul at every opportunity. By all means back up your claims. And also explain how a pot shot from 30 yards constitutes a good chance carved out. | |
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| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 14:58 - Feb 4 with 1098 views | Parlay |
| What has Monk & Co done to us??? on 14:08 - Feb 4 by perchrockjack |
ace.
Honest mate, this guy is not worth your time.
Im not sure if you re at work or at leisure when you post but I calculated I spend 1 hour, 19 mins 10 seconds in answering his posts.
Quite why I did so Im not really sure and its not something Im pleased about.
This poster is a fraud, a liar, hypcocrite, charlatan and utterly up his own ringpiece in every thought and deed.
Im all for exchanges and a little provocation but after a while you know the limits and this guy doesn't so put on ignore as I do and live life again. |
Hello again Mr Lewis.
You spend 1 hour 19mins and 10 seconds replying to my posts? Funny that you have never answered a single question i have put to you then isnt it? maybe you should take a course in time management?
Now then. How am I a fraud? how am I a hypocrite? How am I charlatan? I will allow you the up my own ass one as i tend to agree and for good reason. Its easy to hector and abuse but less easy to back it up which is why you pretend to put me on ignore.
We can only assume you are lying and bullying again if you cannot back up these claims.
Thanks Richard. | |
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