| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! 15:27 - Nov 3 with 20274 views | NOTRAC |
Although the 2014 accounts have not been published and submitted to Companies House in respect of Swansea City AFC ,the Trust has just published their 2014 accounts on their new website.
From these one thing stands out.The Trust has received a further dividend for the 2014 year of £210,000 which means that a total dividend of £1m has been declared and paid to all the shareholders.
This means that for each £100,000 originally invested by each shareholder they have now received a Return of £300,000, that is, three times their original investments.
If it is true that they are also looking to sell their shares to the American investors there is only one thing that can be said about them
They are greedy bastards who are no different to Mr Petty, the man they once decried.
Surely they should now do a Mel Nurse, and gift their shares back to the club, and prove that they are men of integrity and not the crap that they appear to be turning into. |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 20:59 - Nov 3 with 1419 views | _ |
Call me naive but what "investor" would want to entertain a deal that involves supporters of a football club gaining more shares/control/power?? Especially ol' Billion$$ire Johnny Moores?!
So for that reason all this talk of gifting the Trust shares doesn't stack up.
The ones wanting to sell their stake are not going to do that, are they? I mean, if they are serious they want to cash out then they'd only be hampering not only a slice of their windfall but jeopardising any deal completely. |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:02 - Nov 3 with 1407 views | Uxbridge |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 19:35 - Nov 3 by tomdickharry |
Your not alone.
We have read a great deal recently about the shareholding of the Trust,consequently let us consider the position of the Trust board if and when an investment offer is placed before them.Who instructs them whether to accept or defray the offer,the fans circa 18000 or the voting members of the Trust circa 122.Guidance please. |
The members of course. Who else? |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:09 - Nov 3 with 1380 views | Davillin |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 20:59 - Nov 3 by _ |
Call me naive but what "investor" would want to entertain a deal that involves supporters of a football club gaining more shares/control/power?? Especially ol' Billion$$ire Johnny Moores?!
So for that reason all this talk of gifting the Trust shares doesn't stack up.
The ones wanting to sell their stake are not going to do that, are they? I mean, if they are serious they want to cash out then they'd only be hampering not only a slice of their windfall but jeopardising any deal completely. |
Sad but true. Too true, in fact, especially in your first sentence. |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:09 - Nov 3 with 1378 views | longlostjack |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:02 - Nov 3 by Uxbridge |
The members of course. Who else? |
How many members who are eligible to vote does the Trust have? I really hope that the number is increasing by the day. |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:12 - Nov 3 with 1371 views | tomdickharry |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:02 - Nov 3 by Uxbridge |
The members of course. Who else? |
That's just what I thought,am sure many out there couldn't give a toss about the trust and rightly will have no say whatsoever in the fait of our (the) club,when fans realise this there possibly could be a huge surge in membership. | | | |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:15 - Nov 3 with 1376 views | jackonicko |
Without wanting to sound like a stuck record:
pay a tenner, join the trust, have a voice. |  | | |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:42 - Nov 3 with 1318 views | morningstar |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:15 - Nov 3 by jackonicko |
Without wanting to sound like a stuck record:
pay a tenner, join the trust, have a voice. |
Jackinoko just a quick question. I'm guessing that the core of the trust membership is made up largely from fans who were at the very first meeting at the Patti Pavillion over 12 years ago? In that respect, should this go to a vote how do you think those people would feel about someone joining now having the same say as them on this matter? And I'm asking this as non trust member by the way. Not having a go either. |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:00 - Nov 3 with 1284 views | monmouth |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:42 - Nov 3 by morningstar |
Jackinoko just a quick question. I'm guessing that the core of the trust membership is made up largely from fans who were at the very first meeting at the Patti Pavillion over 12 years ago? In that respect, should this go to a vote how do you think those people would feel about someone joining now having the same say as them on this matter? And I'm asking this as non trust member by the way. Not having a go either. |
Ooooh...and how many 'ringers' need to join to vote the 'wrong' way.... |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:02 - Nov 3 with 1281 views | _ |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:42 - Nov 3 by morningstar |
Jackinoko just a quick question. I'm guessing that the core of the trust membership is made up largely from fans who were at the very first meeting at the Patti Pavillion over 12 years ago? In that respect, should this go to a vote how do you think those people would feel about someone joining now having the same say as them on this matter? And I'm asking this as non trust member by the way. Not having a go either. |
You make a good point and I touched on this with my question to Perch earlier.
It's quite clear who are in what camps quite early on. What if Jacko's encouraging of people to join the Trust end up in them voting for selling out, like Perch is wanting.
I agree it's totally unfair on everyone who chipped in and contributed back then but absolutely nothing anyone could do about it. | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:11 - Nov 3 with 1255 views | jackonicko |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:02 - Nov 3 by _ |
You make a good point and I touched on this with my question to Perch earlier.
It's quite clear who are in what camps quite early on. What if Jacko's encouraging of people to join the Trust end up in them voting for selling out, like Perch is wanting.
I agree it's totally unfair on everyone who chipped in and contributed back then but absolutely nothing anyone could do about it. |
The trust is one member, one vote. You don't get extra credit for being there longer. You don't get extra credit for having put more money in than others. That's the way it should be.
If the trust is filled with members who vote to sell the trust shareholding, that's the mandate of the fans. If you don't want that to happen, then make sure your voice is heard.
That's democracy. | | | |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:15 - Nov 3 with 1245 views | tomdickharry |
The number of members has already been mentioned in a previous post and as stated for the world to raise their arms in shock horror in the 2014 Trust accounts. | | | |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:16 - Nov 3 with 1242 views | Dewi1jack |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:42 - Nov 3 by morningstar |
Jackinoko just a quick question. I'm guessing that the core of the trust membership is made up largely from fans who were at the very first meeting at the Patti Pavillion over 12 years ago? In that respect, should this go to a vote how do you think those people would feel about someone joining now having the same say as them on this matter? And I'm asking this as non trust member by the way. Not having a go either. |
You pays your money, it benefits the Trust.
You get to state your opinion and maybe explain to others why you think your opinion may be right. By debate (not abuse) others may change your opinion, show you sides of a debate you hadn't considered.
You may have a thought no one else has had so changing their opinions, hopefully taking our football club forward- certainly trying to safeguard it.
Anyone trying to safeguard the future of the club through the Trust, cannot be wrong as they too only have the club at heart.
I mistakenly thought that when the club said "every ST holder has automatic trust membership" they were giving the Trust all our family subs.
Whoops my mistake 
Have rectified that situation and paid up (see, not such a tight b'stard)
Even if the club has given the trust everyones subs, as the ad states "every little helps." |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:27 - Nov 3 with 1211 views | Uxbridge |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 21:12 - Nov 3 by tomdickharry |
That's just what I thought,am sure many out there couldn't give a toss about the trust and rightly will have no say whatsoever in the fait of our (the) club,when fans realise this there possibly could be a huge surge in membership. |
Maybe. Maybe not. I gather there hasn't been much of a surge. | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:34 - Nov 3 with 1198 views | Uxbridge |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 20:59 - Nov 3 by _ |
Call me naive but what "investor" would want to entertain a deal that involves supporters of a football club gaining more shares/control/power?? Especially ol' Billion$$ire Johnny Moores?!
So for that reason all this talk of gifting the Trust shares doesn't stack up.
The ones wanting to sell their stake are not going to do that, are they? I mean, if they are serious they want to cash out then they'd only be hampering not only a slice of their windfall but jeopardising any deal completely. |
Depends doesn't it. Do they just want the cash? Do they want to ensure their legacy? Do they want to ensure the future of the club?
Easy for me to say of course, but if I was in their boat I'd do everything I could to ensure my legacy was protected, the club was protected and frankly I could sleep at night. Money's great and all, but I like to be able to look myself in the mirror ... no other bwgr would like to look at me of course but still  | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:52 - Nov 3 with 1166 views | Dyfnant |
Whats the point of a Trust vote unless your aware of any actual investment details, which I assume the trust director would be unable to officially share. |  |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:08 - Nov 3 with 1132 views | perchrockjack |
Perch in waiting.
Dear god
Asking questions.
Incredible stuff and frankly, as I've said before, we seem to have experts on here. On here that is, but only able to bitch from the sidelines.
I d like to ask many questions but it's not my job to do so..
We ve had squabbling over monk, now the board and further possible investment.
This board and its contributors are just that, no more no less but frankly egos are seriously out of control. | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:10 - Nov 3 with 1130 views | Dewi1jack |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:52 - Nov 3 by Dyfnant |
Whats the point of a Trust vote unless your aware of any actual investment details, which I assume the trust director would be unable to officially share. |
Because the Trust Director represents the interests of the Trust and not swansea City AFC.
So he has a duty of care to the shareholders he represents, ie the Trust.
Just a guess and not trying to be sarky. | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:11 - Nov 3 with 1121 views | tomdickharry |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 22:52 - Nov 3 by Dyfnant |
Whats the point of a Trust vote unless your aware of any actual investment details, which I assume the trust director would be unable to officially share. |
Simply because the Trust board will not have a mandate from Trust members,just as I assume the Trust did not have a Mandate to state they were against investment.Again I assume all Trust members will have a copy of any investment offer and vote democratically at a Trust meeting,"power to the people" often just ends up as"power to a few people". | | | |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:13 - Nov 3 with 1116 views | latchford |
If any of the shareholders are looking to sell their share then that won't benefit the club. Huw has been banging on about bringing needed investment in. Only way that can happen is diluting the shareholders interests by adding more shares.
Think that's what happened at Arsenal and with ninth floor when they were involved with us ? | | | |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:20 - Nov 3 with 1095 views | perchrockjack |
I've a few questions.
Are we saying now the board is greedy and in some way only out to screw the club.
Are we also saying that any extra money coming into the club is not wanted..
Are we saying then we need to change the aforementioned greedy board or directors because although being in the top six of premier league we seem really worried about this, which tends to suggest ,if true, the board cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
Seeing what they ve done for the club, and I might be the naive one, i m quite happy for them to run my club and frankly what they earn from it doesn't bother me, I can recall times when nobody invested in our club ..ever... | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:25 - Nov 3 with 1080 views | westx |
I would love to think that the existing shareholders would gift some shares to the trust would certainly then look as if they believed the mantra they have spouted for so long or has their individual greed overtaken that mantra
Shaky again makes himself look an arse with his comment but I am most interested in why he thinks the trust know nothing - as a shareholder they would surely be privy to the same details as the other shareholders? | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:27 - Nov 3 with 1075 views | perchrockjack |
Western.
Any answers for me ,friend before I nod off | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:29 - Nov 3 with 1074 views | westx |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:27 - Nov 3 by perchrockjack |
Western.
Any answers for me ,friend before I nod off |
Are you talking to me? | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:32 - Nov 3 with 1059 views | _ |
| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:20 - Nov 3 by perchrockjack |
I've a few questions.
Are we saying now the board is greedy and in some way only out to screw the club.
Are we also saying that any extra money coming into the club is not wanted..
Are we saying then we need to change the aforementioned greedy board or directors because although being in the top six of premier league we seem really worried about this, which tends to suggest ,if true, the board cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
Seeing what they ve done for the club, and I might be the naive one, i m quite happy for them to run my club and frankly what they earn from it doesn't bother me, I can recall times when nobody invested in our club ..ever... |
I don't think you are grasping it all, are you? I mean, I don't know why, there's literally pages and pages of info out there on what we are all fearing.
Selling their shares, even if it is part now and part later means that "they" the board of heros you laud over will be passing ownership/control over to someone else.
"They" will be making decisions no more after that... Finito, we will be in the hands of whoever has made them very rich.
What would you do then if it all goes Pete Tong like it has done for cardiff, Blackburn, Portsmouth? It's ok for you up there wanting the moon on the stick and watching us once or twice a year but it's a whole lot more for fans who have been there from the very beginning and stayed with the club through thick and the thinnest of thins... Where would you be then? No ego here, serious questions? | |
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| A million quid for the shareholders It's official! on 23:32 - Nov 3 with 1055 views | perchrockjack |
Yep, or anyone else who can help.
Where do we go from here.
Reading this thread doula confuse an outsider into thinking here was a club falling out of the sky.
This is a time to be happy, proud and confident yet reading some of the comments on here is staggering.
Posters asking other posters to prove themselves to the rest "us".
Madness | |
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