| Health Workers on Strike. 09:55 - Oct 13 with 5442 views | lifelong |
Including Midwives.
What sort of state is the country in for these people to find in necessary to take such action? |  | | |  |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:53 - Oct 13 with 1119 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:48 - Oct 13 by epaul |
No one will die, it's 4 hours only provisions have been put in place for any emergencies. Govt has killed more people, with it's austerity cuts, than any care workers for striking 4 hours only.
As of yet haven't seen any reports of anyone dying because health workers are being selfish for striking for an amount that was recommended but refused by the health minister yet MPS get their 11% pay rise. Oh and lets not forget the amount of NHS that has already been sold off so far to "friends of those in govt" earning them millions
Yep damn those selfish health workers many who are on the breadline for wanting what was recommended |
As a tax payer they have my backing 100% |  |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:53 - Oct 13 with 1119 views | epaul |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:47 - Oct 13 by jack_lord |
As Richard has said, it is the 1970's all over again and I had been thinking this earlier today. I wonder if the Labour Party will get blamed this time?
The problem for me, is that it is public money. This is raised from a variety of sources including our taxes and therefore our money but obviously it cannot be thrown about because people need more. There is no way that the private sector would be able to give pay rises in these circumstances. My pay (and I hate my company for it) has not seen a rise for at least six years but my company say that they can't afford it as they are in a competitive environment and everyone else is also cutting costs to survive. |
It's not the 70's all over again, this is their first strike for 30 odd years and 4 hours only at that. Do you think the govt are just in refusing to give them the raise that was recommended by an independent body set up by the govt.
The simple answer to your workplace problem is don't complain about not getting a rise get organised get unionised |  |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:55 - Oct 13 with 1116 views | ItchySphincter |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 12:47 - Oct 13 by epaul |
In real terms since 2010 pay has gone down by 20% |
I'm all for them getting paid more for the duration of their careers Paul. The funds are finite though and have to come from somewhere. |  |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:59 - Oct 13 with 1103 views | tomdickharry |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 12:49 - Oct 13 by perchrockjack |
so fooking what.. its the way of the world.
Look around you and there s not that many starving..
PEOPLE could die because of this and its unforgivable..
All emergency services should not be allowed to strike..
Strikes though do excite people |
Police Officers are not allowed to strike by law and they haven't had any sort of pay rise for years. |  | | |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:59 - Oct 13 with 1099 views | jack_lord |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:53 - Oct 13 by epaul |
It's not the 70's all over again, this is their first strike for 30 odd years and 4 hours only at that. Do you think the govt are just in refusing to give them the raise that was recommended by an independent body set up by the govt.
The simple answer to your workplace problem is don't complain about not getting a rise get organised get unionised |
I just think that it all started small back in the 1970's too Paul.
I would love to get my workplace unionised as we know that my politics are of that inclination. The problem for us is that many of us are field based over a huge area and never/rarely see or speak to each. The more active (including myself) in suggesting union membership to those that listen does fall often on deaf ears. Some who are trying to "get on" in the organisation avoid any conversation and others don't want to look like troublemakers. |  |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 14:02 - Oct 13 with 1093 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:59 - Oct 13 by tomdickharry |
Police Officers are not allowed to strike by law and they haven't had any sort of pay rise for years. |
That's also dreadful , they deserve a pay rise as much as the next .
It's time for the law men to break the law  | |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 14:07 - Oct 13 with 1087 views | skippyjack |
Pay rise this.. pay rise that.. Police should be paid more! Doctors should be paid more! Everyone should be paid more! More! More!.. if they don't want to do their jobs..I'll happily do it.. but I'm unskilled, I'm not trusted, I'm unable, I can't choose.. f*cking be happy they're getting paid. |  |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 14:08 - Oct 13 with 1081 views | perchrockjack |
tdh.
YES I did know that and was at the Federation Conference in Blackpool as a delegate when Ken Clarke was giving a lecture on how well paid, and fortunate police officers were and that they weren't the only special case. At the time, I thought fecvk it ;I wouldn't mind going on strike and letting them get on with it as we re all "bent" anyway.
There was talk and motions to give Police the right to strike but it didn't happen and police salaries have been ebbing away like many others in real terms. | |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 14:25 - Oct 13 with 1070 views | epaul |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:59 - Oct 13 by jack_lord |
I just think that it all started small back in the 1970's too Paul.
I would love to get my workplace unionised as we know that my politics are of that inclination. The problem for us is that many of us are field based over a huge area and never/rarely see or speak to each. The more active (including myself) in suggesting union membership to those that listen does fall often on deaf ears. Some who are trying to "get on" in the organisation avoid any conversation and others don't want to look like troublemakers. |
Indeed Jase, we have discussed it previously, it's no easy task in the private industries, just about the only private industries that are unionised are the ones the red tories, flogged off under PFI which were already unionised as they were originally part of the civil service | |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 16:21 - Oct 13 with 1028 views | C_jack |
I worry about those who need pay, more than those who need a pay rise. |  |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 16:47 - Oct 13 with 1012 views | epaul |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 16:21 - Oct 13 by C_jack |
I worry about those who need pay, more than those who need a pay rise. |
Indeed those who need pay is a worry, but why should those in work just make the breadline, so many have to have their earnings topped up with benefits, If the min wage hourly rate was decent then there wouldn't be a need to be topped up with benefits. People in work have to use food bank, it's an absolute disgrace that the fact that we have food banks this country shouldn't be in this position. The min wage was one decent thing the red tories did.
This thread is typical of what the govt want, the people turning on the people deflecting from them and the millions them and their cronies steal
Why are we always arguing with each other whilst the bullingdon club boys laugh at us.
The fact that some begrudge hard working poor paid yes poorly paid nurses a 1% rise is quite sad, I though we were supposed to be a caring societyd | |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 17:14 - Oct 13 with 1001 views | jack_lord |
"Why are we always arguing with each other whilst the bullingdon club boys laugh at us.
The fact that some begrudge hard working poor paid yes poorly paid nurses a 1% rise is quite sad, I though we were supposed to be a caring society."
The rich will get richer and it is a disgrace,
I don't think any intelligent person on this board begrudges hard working Nurses a pay rise (and I am married to one) but I think that we have to be careful with the public purse as a 1% of a massive amount is still a great deal. It sucks when you see wealthy people giving themselves fat rises and even worse when you scratch the surface with the contracts. | |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 18:32 - Oct 13 with 973 views | perchrockjack |
I t don't see why sick people should suffer.
I hope nobody on here will have kids taken to hospital only to find a strike in place.
Burlington boys...foockem..
Plenty of self employed not been able to give themselves a rise in ages but cant strike as they wont get anything at all.. | |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 18:47 - Oct 13 with 968 views | epaul |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 13:59 - Oct 13 by tomdickharry |
Police Officers are not allowed to strike by law and they haven't had any sort of pay rise for years. |
Police gave up their right to strike back in the 20's, everybody should have the right to withdraw their labour, lets be fair no one wants to strike, it is a last option and what option have you got when management would not move or be reasonable. What if your right to strike is taken away and say your wages were cut in half, then what, take away the right to strike could turn work into slave labour.
Police did ballot in 2008 to lobby for the right to strike which was borne out of the decision of the then Home Sec jackie Smith not to back date a pay offer of 2.5%.20,000 officers marched through London
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7409679.stm | |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 18:54 - Oct 13 with 959 views | epaul |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 18:32 - Oct 13 by perchrockjack |
I t don't see why sick people should suffer.
I hope nobody on here will have kids taken to hospital only to find a strike in place.
Burlington boys...foockem..
Plenty of self employed not been able to give themselves a rise in ages but cant strike as they wont get anything at all.. |
No reports of anyone suffering, self employment is a personal choice | |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 19:22 - Oct 13 with 930 views | monmouth |
Even though I spent a lot of time on the 'right' side of lucky bastard fence, I get so angry about the discrepancy between the pay of people that really do some work and the people that eat lunches, pontificate, discuss and attend meetings (or make speeches). A chief execs job is more cushy than a hospital nurses job or an inner city schoolteachers job however 'hard' these psycho/socio/paths may claim to 'work', and they get paid at least a million pounds a year more. Any that actually try to interfere in their organisation rarely make any difference that is not negative in my experience, but rarely they make any difference at all.
The way we've followed America into polarised greed, lies and total self interest makes my blood boil.
as indeed do many poorly skilled footballers although at least you can point at the television/spectator/sponsorship/shirt income someone who has mastered his trade like Bale generates.) |  |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 19:42 - Oct 13 with 910 views | perchrockjack |
Self employment is something taken ip when there are no jobs available in the market so people go it alone and put their skills into the market place.
Credit to these people.. Guts... Balls when many wouldn't have the inclination to do something.
To put down self employed is typical if those obsessed with state control..
This country was founded by self employed people and most of our industries too thst employed thousands | |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 19:49 - Oct 13 with 904 views | max936 |
Having regularly seen first hand the care and attention pediatric nurses provide in the community and in hospital's, they more than deserve a decent salary, its not just a job its a vocation and it's fair to say that also applies to nurses and other medical personnel. |  |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 19:59 - Oct 13 with 894 views | epaul |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 19:42 - Oct 13 by perchrockjack |
Self employment is something taken ip when there are no jobs available in the market so people go it alone and put their skills into the market place.
Credit to these people.. Guts... Balls when many wouldn't have the inclination to do something.
To put down self employed is typical if those obsessed with state control..
This country was founded by self employed people and most of our industries too thst employed thousands |
I haven't put down self employed people please do not try to twist my words | |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 20:47 - Oct 13 with 877 views | ItchySphincter |
I'm self employed. It's not for everyone. | |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 20:59 - Oct 13 with 869 views | perchrockjack |
No " twisting " of your or anyone else words.
You have yo understand not all scant state control of everything | |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 22:19 - Oct 13 with 845 views | jackforever |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 18:32 - Oct 13 by perchrockjack |
I t don't see why sick people should suffer.
I hope nobody on here will have kids taken to hospital only to find a strike in place.
Burlington boys...foockem..
Plenty of self employed not been able to give themselves a rise in ages but cant strike as they wont get anything at all.. |
Is your police pension frozen for the past 5 years scouse? Have they reduced it after a pension evaluation exercise? | | | |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 23:21 - Oct 13 with 801 views | perchrockjack |
No but since I've retired police conditions of pension have changed remarkably.
For the worse, somyounve do red a massive own goal there with your bitter personal riposte.
Tell, you what, my daughter s looking pretty screwed as she packed in the NHs and it's pension to start up her own business with all the risk that entails.
Jesus, some nasty ,vicious ,bitter souks on here.
Btw, police pensions are not a pot as such as they are funded by police officers still in service but, as they say, you crack on..
G night | |
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| Health Workers on Strike. on 01:04 - Oct 14 with 789 views | scottishjack |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 18:54 - Oct 13 by epaul |
No reports of anyone suffering, self employment is a personal choice |
Sorry about this as your posts are usually decent, but that is poorly worded at best...
I'm self employed and took a chance because there weren't many other options out there, it was sod all to do with personal choice, it was a case of either taking a punt on something or getting a zero hours job or trying to claim benefits? |  | | |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 07:38 - Oct 14 with 764 views | epaul |
| Health Workers on Strike. on 01:04 - Oct 14 by scottishjack |
Sorry about this as your posts are usually decent, but that is poorly worded at best...
I'm self employed and took a chance because there weren't many other options out there, it was sod all to do with personal choice, it was a case of either taking a punt on something or getting a zero hours job or trying to claim benefits? |
Of course in this day and age, people have been forced down that route, fully accept that, however in the past in the main it was a personal choice I guess when times were good. It's sad really that people have to take that avenue to avoid benefits or zero hours (another blight on this govt who should outlaw them). I have done things in my past to avoid being just another statistic on the dole.
aplogies for my poorly worded initial post | |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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