| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 10:54 - Feb 5 with 3300 views | Swanzay |
Interesting, are the club feeding these stories to the press to get the fans onside, must have an element of truth about the players feeling lack of interest from ML. |  | |  |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:01 - Feb 5 with 3214 views | WarwickHunt |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 10:54 - Feb 5 by Swanzay |
Interesting, are the club feeding these stories to the press to get the fans onside, must have an element of truth about the players feeling lack of interest from ML. |
Aye, if it's in the Mirror there must be some truth in it...
Drip, drip... |  | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:03 - Feb 5 with 3188 views | Swanzay |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:01 - Feb 5 by WarwickHunt |
Aye, if it's in the Mirror there must be some truth in it...
Drip, drip... |
More holes than R... you know the rest! | | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:12 - Feb 5 with 3099 views | Catullus |
How sure can we be that all that story is lies? Maybe the truth is starting to come out now. But if it's true that player delegations were going to the board then he really had to go.
That said, because a manager isn't enforcing discipline it doesn't mean the players can go boozing. Where is their personal discipline? |  |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:14 - Feb 5 with 3070 views | Darran |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:12 - Feb 5 by Catullus |
How sure can we be that all that story is lies? Maybe the truth is starting to come out now. But if it's true that player delegations were going to the board then he really had to go.
That said, because a manager isn't enforcing discipline it doesn't mean the players can go boozing. Where is their personal discipline? |
Spot on Sir,they ain't happy about training but still go out on the piss. |  |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:19 - Feb 5 with 3017 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:12 - Feb 5 by Catullus |
How sure can we be that all that story is lies? Maybe the truth is starting to come out now. But if it's true that player delegations were going to the board then he really had to go.
That said, because a manager isn't enforcing discipline it doesn't mean the players can go boozing. Where is their personal discipline? |
Correct.
Surely if delegations have been going to the board for some time we had a plan B in place and that wasn't Garry Monk for the rest of the season? There's too much at stake to gamble with a complete rookie for our last 13 games.
Hopefully experience is galloping to our rescue as we speak. |  |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:20 - Feb 5 with 3001 views | BLAZE |
£4.5m pay off can't be right? |  | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:21 - Feb 5 with 2998 views | Rancid |
I bet he pissed the board off on so many different levels.Only last week he was defending Andy Carroll over his red.We failed to land Tom Ince after Laudrup spoke to him.There's just 2 situations in the last few weeks.Flying to Paris straight after the WHU game and giving the players license to 'chill out'.I'm sorry but he had to go and that's not mentioning our abysmal form. |  | | |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:32 - Feb 5 with 2897 views | BLAZE |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:21 - Feb 5 by Rancid |
I bet he pissed the board off on so many different levels.Only last week he was defending Andy Carroll over his red.We failed to land Tom Ince after Laudrup spoke to him.There's just 2 situations in the last few weeks.Flying to Paris straight after the WHU game and giving the players license to 'chill out'.I'm sorry but he had to go and that's not mentioning our abysmal form. |
In reflection, I totally agree. I was of the opinion that we hold onto him until the end of the season, pray to god we stay up, then release him in the summer regardless of whether he wanted to stay or not. But great experiences away Stamford Bridge, Wembley, Valencia and United papered over massive cracks that were getting wider by the week - NeathJack put it nicely yesterday; under Laudrup we were sleepwalking towards relegation. I honestly think we'd have gone done without any fight under Laudrup.
I'm not convinced on the Monk appointment yet - it has obvious benefits (continuity etc.) but is such a massive risk. But the board obviously feel it a lesser risk than keeping Laudrup around, so I'll just have to trust their judgement - which to be fair has been great up until now | | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:37 - Feb 5 with 2839 views | Catullus |
I'm sure Monk knows the score, whether or not he's in place til the summer or if someone else is being approached.
But tellingly, I have more faith in Monk motivating the team than I did in Laudrup.
Laudrup once said he didn't shout, you can get your point across and leave people in no doubt you are angry without shouting. Well that is true but in my experience sometimes, just sometimes you have to use the "hairdryer" because some people just take no notice of the nicey nicey approach. | |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:38 - Feb 5 with 2823 views | WarwickHunt |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:14 - Feb 5 by Darran |
Spot on Sir,they ain't happy about training but still go out on the piss. |
Didn't they complain about being pushed too hard in pre-season training (shut it, Wayne  )? | | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:40 - Feb 5 with 2801 views | monmouth |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:12 - Feb 5 by Catullus |
How sure can we be that all that story is lies? Maybe the truth is starting to come out now. But if it's true that player delegations were going to the board then he really had to go.
That said, because a manager isn't enforcing discipline it doesn't mean the players can go boozing. Where is their personal discipline? |
I agree with you....but (you knew that was coming didn't you?) player delegations were exactly how Leeds got rid of Brian Clough. What the current squad want and like and what is good for the health of the club are not the same thing.
On this occasion though, it clearly wasn't going to get better and players do have all the power now, even when they play poorly they still get mega riches. |  |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:41 - Feb 5 with 2788 views | Rancid |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:32 - Feb 5 by BLAZE |
In reflection, I totally agree. I was of the opinion that we hold onto him until the end of the season, pray to god we stay up, then release him in the summer regardless of whether he wanted to stay or not. But great experiences away Stamford Bridge, Wembley, Valencia and United papered over massive cracks that were getting wider by the week - NeathJack put it nicely yesterday; under Laudrup we were sleepwalking towards relegation. I honestly think we'd have gone done without any fight under Laudrup.
I'm not convinced on the Monk appointment yet - it has obvious benefits (continuity etc.) but is such a massive risk. But the board obviously feel it a lesser risk than keeping Laudrup around, so I'll just have to trust their judgement - which to be fair has been great up until now |
Monk is cheap too and now we have to pay up ML's contract it makes sense financially.And can you imagine the conversation between Laudrup and the Ince's? You'd think we were capable of getting someone like Ince in but I can't for the life of me imagine Laudrup selling the club to him when he'd lost interest himself. | | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:41 - Feb 5 with 2778 views | Catullus |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:38 - Feb 5 by WarwickHunt |
Didn't they complain about being pushed too hard in pre-season training (shut it, Wayne )? |
Maybe Laudrup felt a hard pre season would be enough and the number of games would keep fitness levels up. And if the players disagreed, maybe they are right. The situation on the pitch points that way, as well as the injuries.
Question, does anyone think our injury situation is down to players being driven to hard in training? | |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:43 - Feb 5 with 2753 views | monmouth |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:41 - Feb 5 by Catullus |
Maybe Laudrup felt a hard pre season would be enough and the number of games would keep fitness levels up. And if the players disagreed, maybe they are right. The situation on the pitch points that way, as well as the injuries.
Question, does anyone think our injury situation is down to players being driven to hard in training? |
Straight line running. You heard it here first.
Didn't you? | |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:44 - Feb 5 with 2732 views | WarwickHunt |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:41 - Feb 5 by Catullus |
Maybe Laudrup felt a hard pre season would be enough and the number of games would keep fitness levels up. And if the players disagreed, maybe they are right. The situation on the pitch points that way, as well as the injuries.
Question, does anyone think our injury situation is down to players being driven to hard in training? |
Do you mean pre-season training?
Doubt it personally but Mr. Kerr will be along in a minute...  | | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:46 - Feb 5 with 2698 views | WarwickHunt |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:41 - Feb 5 by Rancid |
Monk is cheap too and now we have to pay up ML's contract it makes sense financially.And can you imagine the conversation between Laudrup and the Ince's? You'd think we were capable of getting someone like Ince in but I can't for the life of me imagine Laudrup selling the club to him when he'd lost interest himself. |
I'm more inclined to think he just got offered more dosh at Palace... | | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:49 - Feb 5 with 2652 views | 1983 |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:50 - Feb 5 with 2646 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:43 - Feb 5 by monmouth |
Straight line running. You heard it here first.
Didn't you? |
I'm getting deja vu.
I might have heard it before, just can't remember where......... | |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 12:54 - Feb 5 with 2383 views | Lord_Bony |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:19 - Feb 5 by Joe_bradshaw |
Correct.
Surely if delegations have been going to the board for some time we had a plan B in place and that wasn't Garry Monk for the rest of the season? There's too much at stake to gamble with a complete rookie for our last 13 games.
Hopefully experience is galloping to our rescue as we speak. |
Let's hope so.
Still can't get my head round Garry Monk at the helm of this big ship with no experience... |  |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 16:25 - Feb 5 with 2137 views | alphonseM |
To me this just sounds like spin put out by the board to justify sacking ML - the manager who brought us a trophee and our so far best position in the Premier League. The real story behind the sacking probably has a lot more to do with the tutumlu debacle from last summer than anything else (i.e. a prolonged struggle for power and the ultimate say over our transfers). [Post edited 5 Feb 2014 16:26]
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 16:31 - Feb 5 with 2097 views | Plasticman |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:37 - Feb 5 by Catullus |
I'm sure Monk knows the score, whether or not he's in place til the summer or if someone else is being approached.
But tellingly, I have more faith in Monk motivating the team than I did in Laudrup.
Laudrup once said he didn't shout, you can get your point across and leave people in no doubt you are angry without shouting. Well that is true but in my experience sometimes, just sometimes you have to use the "hairdryer" because some people just take no notice of the nicey nicey approach. |
I don't have the same asuredness of Monk being able to motivate the team as you do. Especially if he was instrumental in 'clearing the way for getting the job himself'.
Stuff like that acts demotivational.
If anything, it could polarize the players even more. [Post edited 5 Feb 2014 16:32]
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 16:54 - Feb 5 with 2013 views | JJJack |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 16:31 - Feb 5 by Plasticman |
I don't have the same asuredness of Monk being able to motivate the team as you do. Especially if he was instrumental in 'clearing the way for getting the job himself'.
Stuff like that acts demotivational.
If anything, it could polarize the players even more. [Post edited 5 Feb 2014 16:32]
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My favourite idea from this whole debacle and by a mile the most ludicrous suggestion, and to be fair to you, you aren't the only one to say it BUT, this idea that Monk stirred everything up single-handedly in order to appoint himself Manager. Quite simply I have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life. on this basis, Monk has single-handedly been responsible for:
* 7 Prem wins in 33 games
* Ineffective fitness methods, physio and nutrition
* A split between the Spaniards and the rest of the players
* Signing Vazquez, Schecter, Emnes, Ngog etc
* Not starting Bony at the start of the season in many games
* An apparent shambles of a mid-season break to Dubai
* Laudrup swanning off to Paris and giving the players 2 days off in the middle of a daunting fixture list with a Derby coming up
* Laudrup clearly being demotivated
* Players wanting more discipline then going off on the piss anyway
* A total breakdown in our style of play and ability to create changes and especially our continued slow starts.
* Appointing himself as Acting Manager
Seriously , have a word with youself!! |  | | |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 17:08 - Feb 5 with 1952 views | Watchman |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 11:20 - Feb 5 by BLAZE |
£4.5m pay off can't be right? |
maybe for all the staff that have gone |  |
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| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 08:16 - Feb 6 with 1511 views | Lord_Bony |
| Laudrups Last Tango in Paris on 16:54 - Feb 5 by JJJack |
My favourite idea from this whole debacle and by a mile the most ludicrous suggestion, and to be fair to you, you aren't the only one to say it BUT, this idea that Monk stirred everything up single-handedly in order to appoint himself Manager. Quite simply I have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life. on this basis, Monk has single-handedly been responsible for:
* 7 Prem wins in 33 games
* Ineffective fitness methods, physio and nutrition
* A split between the Spaniards and the rest of the players
* Signing Vazquez, Schecter, Emnes, Ngog etc
* Not starting Bony at the start of the season in many games
* An apparent shambles of a mid-season break to Dubai
* Laudrup swanning off to Paris and giving the players 2 days off in the middle of a daunting fixture list with a Derby coming up
* Laudrup clearly being demotivated
* Players wanting more discipline then going off on the piss anyway
* A total breakdown in our style of play and ability to create changes and especially our continued slow starts.
* Appointing himself as Acting Manager
Seriously , have a word with youself!! |
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