| Season Tickets: Imagine... 18:58 - May 1 with 5553 views | LimehouseR |
"We could charge more than £104. “Let’s say we charged £300. We’d get £2m more in income but what’s £2m to us? In a transfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. That’s the biggest difference between us and England." [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:29 - May 1 with 4532 views | peejaybee |
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:49 - May 1 with 4484 views | loftboy |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:29 - May 1 by peejaybee |
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:49 - May 1 with 4483 views | hooper1957 |
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My thoughts exactly ?????
What you talking bout Willis |  | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:53 - May 1 with 4468 views | loftboy |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:49 - May 1 by hooper1957 |
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My thoughts exactly ?????
What you talking bout Willis |
It's what bayern charge for season tickets, basically their chairman was having a dig at England's ticket prices. | |
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:54 - May 1 with 4465 views | LimehouseR |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:49 - May 1 by hooper1957 |
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My thoughts exactly ?????
What you talking bout Willis |
My point being that for the sake for example, of a small piece of Samba, Tony could save the fans several hundred quid over the price of season tickets...
The mind set at Bayern is that they clearly have the fans best interests at heart.
Imagine they were just £300 let alone £100! | | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:55 - May 1 with 4458 views | hooper1957 |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:53 - May 1 by loftboy |
It's what bayern charge for season tickets, basically their chairman was having a dig at England's ticket prices. |
Ah and the fog clears away | | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:06 - May 1 with 4431 views | peejaybee |
Now its clear as Mud. | |
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:13 - May 1 with 4408 views | Jamie |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 19:54 - May 1 by LimehouseR |
My point being that for the sake for example, of a small piece of Samba, Tony could save the fans several hundred quid over the price of season tickets...
The mind set at Bayern is that they clearly have the fans best interests at heart.
Imagine they were just £300 let alone £100! |
Pretty easy stance to take when you receive a disproportionate slice of the tv revenue (£150m/year) and so can hoover up all the countries talent whilst making massive profits.
With our eye watering losses and loss of tv revenue, any reduction in ST prices at QPR ultimately comes out of the owners pockets. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:23 - May 1 with 4387 views | GetMeRangers |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:13 - May 1 by Jamie |
Pretty easy stance to take when you receive a disproportionate slice of the tv revenue (£150m/year) and so can hoover up all the countries talent whilst making massive profits.
With our eye watering losses and loss of tv revenue, any reduction in ST prices at QPR ultimately comes out of the owners pockets. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Not quite strictly true. If our STs were as low as that, LR would be pretty well be full every game in the Championship... along with eachfan attending comes the possibility of selling advertising, merchandise and food/drink etc. On top of that, a full stadium would help LR become like a fortress. We were heavily criticised in our promotion season for not selling out, but often that was through lack of away fans prepared to pay our , even then, high prices. Getting home tickets was possible but not often able to walk up to the game and get one.
On top of that, you would start to build the fan base as we would be a very attractive alternative to watching Fulham vs Stoke, for instance
Question is, at what price could they sell 15k of season tickets. My guess would be at prices starting around the £300 mark and rising to £500 for top seats |  | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:31 - May 1 with 4357 views | DesertBoot |
Can't recall the opponents but remember Mahon gave away two goals. Then he ran his heart out the rest of the game. Bosingwa will deserve all he gets. |  |
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:34 - May 1 with 4352 views | Hunterhoop |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:23 - May 1 by GetMeRangers |
Not quite strictly true. If our STs were as low as that, LR would be pretty well be full every game in the Championship... along with eachfan attending comes the possibility of selling advertising, merchandise and food/drink etc. On top of that, a full stadium would help LR become like a fortress. We were heavily criticised in our promotion season for not selling out, but often that was through lack of away fans prepared to pay our , even then, high prices. Getting home tickets was possible but not often able to walk up to the game and get one.
On top of that, you would start to build the fan base as we would be a very attractive alternative to watching Fulham vs Stoke, for instance
Question is, at what price could they sell 15k of season tickets. My guess would be at prices starting around the £300 mark and rising to £500 for top seats |
Exactly. It's the elasticity of demand and it's about hitting the sweet spot. I reckon £400 for silver and £500 for good maximise revenue and attendances. |  | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:37 - May 1 with 4348 views | Vish |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:34 - May 1 by Hunterhoop |
Exactly. It's the elasticity of demand and it's about hitting the sweet spot. I reckon £400 for silver and £500 for good maximise revenue and attendances. |
add a guarantee of buying the following years season ticket for a set price regardless of the division and the club are onto a winner.
Having a decent crowd throughout the season can add 10+ points on the pitch.
lets hope the club look at the bigger picture for a change. | | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:45 - May 1 with 4332 views | Jamie |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:23 - May 1 by GetMeRangers |
Not quite strictly true. If our STs were as low as that, LR would be pretty well be full every game in the Championship... along with eachfan attending comes the possibility of selling advertising, merchandise and food/drink etc. On top of that, a full stadium would help LR become like a fortress. We were heavily criticised in our promotion season for not selling out, but often that was through lack of away fans prepared to pay our , even then, high prices. Getting home tickets was possible but not often able to walk up to the game and get one.
On top of that, you would start to build the fan base as we would be a very attractive alternative to watching Fulham vs Stoke, for instance
Question is, at what price could they sell 15k of season tickets. My guess would be at prices starting around the £300 mark and rising to £500 for top seats |
If you were to sell 15k STs at £300-500 & POD's at £20-£30.
Say 15k STs at average £400 = £6m
3k POD's at average £25 = £1.7m
£16m Parachute payments and say an optimistic £10m merch etc. revenue = £34m revenue.
Our promotion season wage bill alone was £29.7m. Last season £58.5m. This season £70m+?
As said before ST prices will be crucial in the feel around the club this summer and next season but with the losses the club are making, as said, any reductions in ST prices will be coming out of the owners pockets. Again as said, Bayern are in a fortuitous position with their massive TV revenue, huge support that they can have ST prices at fantastic levels, QPR are in a position of needing to balance atmosphere and losses. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:52 - May 1 with 4310 views | GetMeRangers |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 20:34 - May 1 by Hunterhoop |
Exactly. It's the elasticity of demand and it's about hitting the sweet spot. I reckon £400 for silver and £500 for good maximise revenue and attendances. |
I always find it odd that football isnt more elastic. I know they have the tiered prices for games v big clubs, but you cant put a price on a home win in front of a full stadium, which will be eager to return again and again.
Kick the families out of Lower loft and make lower school end permanent home end... a bit like it was when they were developing the stadium many years back (even when loft was re-opened as a home end, they continued to divide the school terrace for home and away supporters)
I want seasons where we have a genuine home advantage and stuff how unfair t is for the away support! Much in the way, Toon stuff the away support up in the clouds
Get the price right and you will always sell out. being a grower, there has been a terrible season for plant sales, if you were rigid on price (loads of nurseries chucking stock). I was flexible and sold out... not the best profits but better than the losses of dumping plants into a skip | | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 21:34 - May 1 with 4233 views | BasingstokeR |
Bayern have a 71,000 stadium, which they limit STs to 21,000 of. 13,500 ish is standing, and only a proportion of these standing areas are the much publicised £104 ST. Although still their most expensive ST seat is around £560.
The travel inclusion in tickets is a great idea, can't see that kind of thing happening in London. |  | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 22:07 - May 1 with 4193 views | Northernr |
Through my day job I got to interview Mat Hodgson who made The Four Year Plan documentary, both before it was released and then after its premiere in Amsterdam. His favourite scene in the thing, one of them anyway, was the board meeting where they were going down the balance sheet and deciding that they could save £200 a home match by having less flowers, and another £150 if they produced a menu for the W12 that cost £9.50 a head rather than £12.25 - and all the while signing Patrick Agyemang on a four year contract at £12k a week and the likes.
Finney has mentioned it a few times this year with regards to away tickets. They took a small allocation at Spurs and West ham because they'd taken a large one at Man City (stupidly) and had to pay for the ones they didn't sell. But at the end of the day what's the cost of 600 unsold tickets at Man City to a club that will spend £12.5m on Chris Samba and pay him whatever the fck he's earning?
I think they call it a false economy. QPR will buy at least one player this summer who they will over pay for with the transfer fee and the wage and the length of the contract. How about buy one less player, miss out on that target this time, and reduce the season tickets to a nominal amount for those who still want to renew after this season of drek.
Not the QPR, or the English, way sadly. Wages for players, transfer fees and agent payments sky rocketing across the board while the majority of clubs in the Football League are in some sort of financial sht. And remember, of every club that's ever gone into admin in this country, they've all gone in oweing money to the St John's Ambulance. Football debts have to be paid in full though. Of course. |  | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 22:21 - May 1 with 4171 views | Northernr |
But then to play devil's advocate. If they did say "ok, renew this season for £100 as a thank you" then I suspect a lot of people would renew regardless of whether they thought they'd go regularly or not resulting in - particularly for Tuesday night games - a lot of seats with nobody in them that the club couldn't sell to anybody else. | | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 22:29 - May 1 with 4154 views | WanderR |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 22:21 - May 1 by Northernr |
But then to play devil's advocate. If they did say "ok, renew this season for £100 as a thank you" then I suspect a lot of people would renew regardless of whether they thought they'd go regularly or not resulting in - particularly for Tuesday night games - a lot of seats with nobody in them that the club couldn't sell to anybody else. |
At which point Viagogo rears its ugly head. |  |
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 22:32 - May 1 with 4148 views | Northernr |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 22:29 - May 1 by WanderR |
At which point Viagogo rears its ugly head. |
Haha, Viagogo won't be making much of killing on QPR (9th) v Doncaster (21st), Tuesday December 10, Kick off 8pm, I can assure the cnts of that. | | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 23:34 - May 1 with 4104 views | derbyhoop |
We probably cannot sell more than about 10K STs because you have to set aside a certain percentage for match day attendees and the opposition. Admitedly, not many opponents next year will fill the School End.
So 10K STs at an average of £450, allowing for Concessions is £4.5m.
Average of 5k for match days, which is probably optimistic at £25 each comes to £2.8m. Total through the gates £8.3m. Barely pays Chris Samba's estimated wages. |  |
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 11:32 - May 2 with 3992 views | robith |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 22:32 - May 1 by Northernr |
Haha, Viagogo won't be making much of killing on QPR (9th) v Doncaster (21st), Tuesday December 10, Kick off 8pm, I can assure the cnts of that. |
Totally agree. Bar the games against the bigger teams, viagogo doesn't inflate the price. Quite the opposite
I couldn't go to Norwich at home - my dad and bro couldn't make it either and all my QPR supporting mates already had tickets.
Thought sod it, I'll put it on viagogo see what happens. Ended up selling it for £15 (£12.50 minus thier pound of flesh) as that was the going rate. I met someone in the Crown and Sceptre who got a ticket for the Stoke game for £9.50 off there |  | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 12:50 - May 2 with 3920 views | Rangersw12 |
For the Championship Season tickets should be
£500 Gold
£450 Silver
£400 Bronze
Match Day Prices
Gold £24
Silver £22
Bronze £20
I know we have a high wage bill but it wasn't the fans who agreed to these stupid contracts so why should we pay for them
If they don't reduce prices drastically then it will all go tits up very quickly and we will be getting 11/12k gates
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 12:54 - May 2 with 3911 views | nadera78 |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 12:50 - May 2 by Rangersw12 |
For the Championship Season tickets should be
£500 Gold
£450 Silver
£400 Bronze
Match Day Prices
Gold £24
Silver £22
Bronze £20
I know we have a high wage bill but it wasn't the fans who agreed to these stupid contracts so why should we pay for them
If they don't reduce prices drastically then it will all go tits up very quickly and we will be getting 11/12k gates
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Those prices listed should be the absolute maximum. If we're honest, the standard of football, facilities, etc should see prices lower than that. | | | |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 13:04 - May 2 with 3895 views | QPunkR |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 12:54 - May 2 by nadera78 |
Those prices listed should be the absolute maximum. If we're honest, the standard of football, facilities, etc should see prices lower than that. |
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| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 13:06 - May 2 with 3888 views | Rangersw12 |
| Season Tickets: Imagine... on 12:54 - May 2 by nadera78 |
Those prices listed should be the absolute maximum. If we're honest, the standard of football, facilities, etc should see prices lower than that. |
I agree but unfortunately I very much doubt they will be lower than that or even anywhere near them ! | | | |
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