| Sala 08:49 - Dec 3 with 9758 views | Boundy |
Can they pay what they owe , it appears they’ve run out of appeal options .A lot of monies owed to various agencies and the latest is they have run out of appeals |  |
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| Sala on 21:25 - Dec 6 with 1702 views | max936 |
| Sala on 21:04 - Dec 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The £400k represent in subscriptions 40,000 payment of £10. Taking an average of 1000 members each (a rough average) the Trust would need 40 years to get that money back. I would have thought that was obvious.
The Trust's £880k cash pile was from around £200k+ from subscription more if the membership was more than a 1000 and around £400,000 plus given in dividends from the club's profits around 2015.
The Trust's biggest investment has been lawyers and agencies from South east England. This is because 1000 mainly Welsh members were easy led into a case they could never afford. This was obvious to me in 2016. |
The only thing is absolutely obvious is that you talk a load of guff to be honest.
What's that they say about wood and trees.
What do you do for a living it might explain much of what we read.? |  |
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| Sala on 21:25 - Dec 6 with 1693 views | Dr_Parnassus |
It won’t be, he can’t continue to spread so little knowledge over so many posts.
The second he’s asked for clarification or to expand, he has a meltdown.
He didn’t even know who the agent was, had no idea what the pilot did for a living, no idea who the agent worked for, no idea who arranged it and on whose request - didn’t understand why he was in France and on whose time…. But knows they all have insurance apparently 
As stated, FIFA and CAS agree with me and took very little time to come to that quite obvious conclusion, and for the reasons I have been stating clearly from day 1.
Insurance companies don’t pay out for things with unlicensed drivers/pilots, and most certainly wouldn’t be paying out for transfer fees of footballers.
There is a reason Cardiff fought so hard not to pay and paid so much in fees to try and avoid it - he was signed on the weekend, ergo - not insured.
As much as that clearly upsets our friend from Resolven with about as much knowledge of this case as a new born baby. |  |
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| Sala on 21:27 - Dec 6 with 1692 views | Whiterockin |
| Sala on 21:25 - Dec 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
It won’t be, he can’t continue to spread so little knowledge over so many posts.
The second he’s asked for clarification or to expand, he has a meltdown.
He didn’t even know who the agent was, had no idea what the pilot did for a living, no idea who the agent worked for, no idea who arranged it and on whose request - didn’t understand why he was in France and on whose time…. But knows they all have insurance apparently
As stated, FIFA and CAS agree with me and took very little time to come to that quite obvious conclusion, and for the reasons I have been stating clearly from day 1.
Insurance companies don’t pay out for things with unlicensed drivers/pilots, and most certainly wouldn’t be paying out for transfer fees of footballers.
There is a reason Cardiff fought so hard not to pay and paid so much in fees to try and avoid it - he was signed on the weekend, ergo - not insured.
As much as that clearly upsets our friend from Resolven with about as much knowledge of this case as a new born baby. |
I don't disagree with you. |  | | |
| Sala on 21:28 - Dec 6 with 1689 views | max936 |
| Sala on 21:25 - Dec 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
It won’t be, he can’t continue to spread so little knowledge over so many posts.
The second he’s asked for clarification or to expand, he has a meltdown.
He didn’t even know who the agent was, had no idea what the pilot did for a living, no idea who the agent worked for, no idea who arranged it and on whose request - didn’t understand why he was in France and on whose time…. But knows they all have insurance apparently
As stated, FIFA and CAS agree with me and took very little time to come to that quite obvious conclusion, and for the reasons I have been stating clearly from day 1.
Insurance companies don’t pay out for things with unlicensed drivers/pilots, and most certainly wouldn’t be paying out for transfer fees of footballers.
There is a reason Cardiff fought so hard not to pay and paid so much in fees to try and avoid it - he was signed on the weekend, ergo - not insured.
As much as that clearly upsets our friend from Resolven with about as much knowledge of this case as a new born baby. |
He made it clear that he went back to France to get his bestest waterproof goal scoring boots and to lock his Shed mun. | |
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| Sala on 21:30 - Dec 6 with 1670 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Sala on 21:28 - Dec 6 by max936 |
He made it clear that he went back to France to get his bestest waterproof goal scoring boots and to lock his Shed mun. |
His incredible lucky tools dontcha know.
Apparently there is no postal service in France…
Must be difficult. | |
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| Sala on 12:28 - Dec 7 with 1575 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sala on 21:25 - Dec 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
It won’t be, he can’t continue to spread so little knowledge over so many posts.
The second he’s asked for clarification or to expand, he has a meltdown.
He didn’t even know who the agent was, had no idea what the pilot did for a living, no idea who the agent worked for, no idea who arranged it and on whose request - didn’t understand why he was in France and on whose time…. But knows they all have insurance apparently
As stated, FIFA and CAS agree with me and took very little time to come to that quite obvious conclusion, and for the reasons I have been stating clearly from day 1.
Insurance companies don’t pay out for things with unlicensed drivers/pilots, and most certainly wouldn’t be paying out for transfer fees of footballers.
There is a reason Cardiff fought so hard not to pay and paid so much in fees to try and avoid it - he was signed on the weekend, ergo - not insured.
As much as that clearly upsets our friend from Resolven with about as much knowledge of this case as a new born baby. |
What melt down?
I know all the things you claim I had no knowledge of. I do not use names and refer only to the 'Agent' and the 'Logistics firm owner' who is currently in jail as far as I know. His 'business' was mentioned in court.
The agents firm is listed on companies house. I have just read it. i would be amazed if it has no insurance. I would be amazed if Cardiff city allowed three of their staff to travel to France in an uninsured plane organised by an uninsured logistics firm as guest of an uninsured agency.
Perhaps DR P is correct and all these people behave like a reckless 17 year old valley boy racers with a 15 year old Golf. Somehow I doubt it. |  |
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| Sala on 16:54 - Dec 7 with 1515 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Sala on 12:28 - Dec 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What melt down?
I know all the things you claim I had no knowledge of. I do not use names and refer only to the 'Agent' and the 'Logistics firm owner' who is currently in jail as far as I know. His 'business' was mentioned in court.
The agents firm is listed on companies house. I have just read it. i would be amazed if it has no insurance. I would be amazed if Cardiff city allowed three of their staff to travel to France in an uninsured plane organised by an uninsured logistics firm as guest of an uninsured agency.
Perhaps DR P is correct and all these people behave like a reckless 17 year old valley boy racers with a 15 year old Golf. Somehow I doubt it. |
It is amazing how many people get into cars driven by unqualified and uninsured drivers. | |
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| Sala on 23:42 - Dec 7 with 1401 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Sala on 14:28 - Dec 4 by jack247 |
Sent back to collect his boots 😆 |
You can’t get them over here |  |
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| Sala on 13:58 - Dec 8 with 1336 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sala on 23:42 - Dec 7 by Brynmill_Jack |
You can’t get them over here |
The player himself stated in his social media how tired he was what with all the thing he had to do relating to his transfer. He was not on holiday as Dr P states. Picking up his boots would be one of those things. All work related. Again something he mentioned.
Insurance only works well with universal coverage. It does not stop on weekends. My insurance cover for all my insurance is valid up to the point an new insurer takes over. Policies cover an exact date and time. Usually the preceding midnight on the start day. It is valid for my car and building insurance.
Mocking is your style i get it. Others are 'bluffers' and mock and spin when their narratives are are exposed as baloney. Cardiff city is not going into financial meltdown over this. | |
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| Sala on 18:22 - Dec 8 with 1289 views | max936 |
| Sala on 13:58 - Dec 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The player himself stated in his social media how tired he was what with all the thing he had to do relating to his transfer. He was not on holiday as Dr P states. Picking up his boots would be one of those things. All work related. Again something he mentioned.
Insurance only works well with universal coverage. It does not stop on weekends. My insurance cover for all my insurance is valid up to the point an new insurer takes over. Policies cover an exact date and time. Usually the preceding midnight on the start day. It is valid for my car and building insurance.
Mocking is your style i get it. Others are 'bluffers' and mock and spin when their narratives are are exposed as baloney. Cardiff city is not going into financial meltdown over this. |
Think everyone knows how insurance works, house, car, public lability, personal insurances etc Its not rocket science no lessons are needed to understand how it all works.
Even sheep can be insured.
"Others are 'bluffers' and mock and spin when their narratives are are exposed as baloney."
You're the numero uno on that front, nobody else comes close. | |
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| Sala on 18:45 - Dec 8 with 1270 views | Catullus |
| Sala on 12:28 - Dec 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
What melt down?
I know all the things you claim I had no knowledge of. I do not use names and refer only to the 'Agent' and the 'Logistics firm owner' who is currently in jail as far as I know. His 'business' was mentioned in court.
The agents firm is listed on companies house. I have just read it. i would be amazed if it has no insurance. I would be amazed if Cardiff city allowed three of their staff to travel to France in an uninsured plane organised by an uninsured logistics firm as guest of an uninsured agency.
Perhaps DR P is correct and all these people behave like a reckless 17 year old valley boy racers with a 15 year old Golf. Somehow I doubt it. |
You always leave out the salient point, any insurance that may have been in place was rendered invalid because the pilot had no licence for commercial flying and the plane was apparently not safe to cross the channel.
If I had to surrender my licence and then drove, my insurance does not cover me, if I don't MOT my car, the insurance will not cover any claim.
You can keep on spouting all you like that they must have had insurance but the facts we do know rule out any insurance cover, any policy was invalid because rules were broken.
Besides which, you assume they were competent business people, the facts seem to rule that out also. They were/are definitely a bit shady. | |
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| Sala on 18:51 - Dec 8 with 1266 views | max936 |
| Sala on 18:45 - Dec 8 by Catullus |
You always leave out the salient point, any insurance that may have been in place was rendered invalid because the pilot had no licence for commercial flying and the plane was apparently not safe to cross the channel.
If I had to surrender my licence and then drove, my insurance does not cover me, if I don't MOT my car, the insurance will not cover any claim.
You can keep on spouting all you like that they must have had insurance but the facts we do know rule out any insurance cover, any policy was invalid because rules were broken.
Besides which, you assume they were competent business people, the facts seem to rule that out also. They were/are definitely a bit shady. |
Cat, you'd be better off hitting your head against a brick wall, he can't see the wood for the trees because he doesn't want to, because it doesn't suit his narrative. | |
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| Sala on 19:12 - Dec 8 with 1252 views | pencoedjack |
| Sala on 18:51 - Dec 8 by max936 |
Cat, you'd be better off hitting your head against a brick wall, he can't see the wood for the trees because he doesn't want to, because it doesn't suit his narrative. |
Him & Vinny must be the only 2 people left on earth who don’t think the Basseys have to pay up or face the consequences.
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| Sala on 19:27 - Dec 8 with 1238 views | max936 |
| Sala on 19:12 - Dec 8 by pencoedjack |
Him & Vinny must be the only 2 people left on earth who don’t think the Basseys have to pay up or face the consequences.
Pretty incredible . |
It sums up his views on pretty much everything though, he posts some decent stuff on times, but that gets spoilt by the guff he posts on stuff he got a bee in his bonnet about, think he calls it thinking outside the box which only makes sense to him and makes little sense to virtually anyone else  | |
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| Sala on 20:43 - Dec 8 with 1209 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sala on 19:27 - Dec 8 by max936 |
It sums up his views on pretty much everything though, he posts some decent stuff on times, but that gets spoilt by the guff he posts on stuff he got a bee in his bonnet about, think he calls it thinking outside the box which only makes sense to him and makes little sense to virtually anyone else |
Almost no one joined me in opposing the Trust ludicrous court case. They were taken for a long 6 year walk in the park and paid up £400k in fees to their advisors only to be told at 5 minutes to midnight they could not afford it and they would put they whole organisation at risk. Something I reported in 2016.
It was entirely predictable. Me and the Chief debated it for a couple of years he was proved wrong and vanished along with one or two others. One or two other that agreed said nothing.
I am going against the tide again. Cardiff might have to pay but hey will be sharing the pain around generously in my opinion. Sensible people will come to solution out of a regrettable tragic event Cardiff city had no involvement in. | |
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| Sala on 21:29 - Dec 8 with 1168 views | Dr_Parnassus |
He’s got to be trolling at this point. | |
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| Sala on 21:45 - Dec 8 with 1144 views | max936 |
| Sala on 21:29 - Dec 8 by Dr_Parnassus |
He’s got to be trolling at this point. |
I give up now, wide berth time. | |
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| Sala on 08:56 - Dec 9 with 1076 views | Boundy |
| Sala on 20:43 - Dec 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Almost no one joined me in opposing the Trust ludicrous court case. They were taken for a long 6 year walk in the park and paid up £400k in fees to their advisors only to be told at 5 minutes to midnight they could not afford it and they would put they whole organisation at risk. Something I reported in 2016.
It was entirely predictable. Me and the Chief debated it for a couple of years he was proved wrong and vanished along with one or two others. One or two other that agreed said nothing.
I am going against the tide again. Cardiff might have to pay but hey will be sharing the pain around generously in my opinion. Sensible people will come to solution out of a regrettable tragic event Cardiff city had no involvement in. |
https://www.law360.com/articles/1556007 | |
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| Sala on 09:02 - Dec 9 with 1066 views | Dr_Parnassus |
good find.
So no adequate insurance policy as many of us suggested, Cardiff now to embark on yet another expensive and fruitless court case in a desperate attempt to avoid shelling out.
No insurance company is ever going to pay out under such circumstances. Incredible to think “some” believed insurance would cover such a thing.
Things getting messier and messier for them.
Tan needs to take his medicine, he’s driving them into the ground with this. | |
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| Sala on 09:05 - Dec 9 with 1065 views | Boundy |
| Sala on 09:02 - Dec 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
good find.
So no adequate insurance policy as many of us suggested, Cardiff now to embark on yet another expensive and fruitless court case in a desperate attempt to avoid shelling out.
No insurance company is ever going to pay out under such circumstances. Incredible to think “some” believed insurance would cover such a thing.
Things getting messier and messier for them.
Tan needs to take his medicine, he’s driving them into the ground with this. |
Curious , IF its true then why 10 million and not the full amount ? | |
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| Sala on 09:08 - Dec 9 with 1061 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Sala on 09:05 - Dec 9 by Boundy |
Curious , IF its true then why 10 million and not the full amount ? |
No idea.
My guess is they are arguing he’s part of a group policy covering their squad, now he’s been proven to be their player - and the max coverage is £10m per player.
But that’s a total guess.
However that seems even more of a desperate reach than them claiming he wasn’t their player.
The circumstances surrounding the loss is completely un-insurable. | |
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| Sala on 13:02 - Dec 9 with 1003 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Sala on 09:08 - Dec 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
No idea.
My guess is they are arguing he’s part of a group policy covering their squad, now he’s been proven to be their player - and the max coverage is £10m per player.
But that’s a total guess.
However that seems even more of a desperate reach than them claiming he wasn’t their player.
The circumstances surrounding the loss is completely un-insurable. |
The essence of their case is that an insurance broker failed to notify them that they needed to insure Sala as soon as they had an insurable interest.
Their previous defence was that he was not their player!!
So not difficult for the broker to defend this, quite what they think can can gain here is difficult to understand. |  |
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| Sala on 14:49 - Dec 9 with 968 views | felixstowe_jack |
They just seem to be delaying and wasting more money on lawyers.
They need to do they right think pay Nantes as he was a Cardiff player end of. | |
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| Sala on 16:36 - Dec 9 with 917 views | Catullus |
| Sala on 13:58 - Dec 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The player himself stated in his social media how tired he was what with all the thing he had to do relating to his transfer. He was not on holiday as Dr P states. Picking up his boots would be one of those things. All work related. Again something he mentioned.
Insurance only works well with universal coverage. It does not stop on weekends. My insurance cover for all my insurance is valid up to the point an new insurer takes over. Policies cover an exact date and time. Usually the preceding midnight on the start day. It is valid for my car and building insurance.
Mocking is your style i get it. Others are 'bluffers' and mock and spin when their narratives are are exposed as baloney. Cardiff city is not going into financial meltdown over this. |
Insirance also only works when it is not rendered invalid.
The only person spinning here is you, you arre trying to spin a line about insurance when you, as an insurance purchaser yourself, should know that all policies come with conditins and if those conditins are broken the policy is worthless. This report,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60767283
points out the flight was unlicensed and therefore illegal rendering any insurance void.
There can be only one conclusion now, this is just an ongoing wind up because nobody can be so stupid as to be continuously pushing this narrative given the evidence and the legal conclusions made by courts of law and the CAS. | |
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