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Reply | There is no economic logic in keeping Darling.
at 15:57 5 Jan 2025
He will have better options than Bristol City if he sits his contract out. We will be one of them.
Using the Leeds example, he won’t play for them much if they go up. He’ll be Nathan Wood at best. |
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Reply | There is no economic logic in keeping Darling.
at 15:42 5 Jan 2025
Absolutely no way he’s on anything like that. He signed a one year contract in the summer after two years of hardly being fit.
We had to get players out to sign Franco and Eom. No chance at all Levein and Kaplan would have given him a contract as one of our top earners. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 15:08 5 Jan 2025
Not quite. A lot of people ‘suddenly’ want him out because he’s pimped himself to West Brom.
He hasn’t done that without encouragement. Whether they go for him or not, West Brom have seen something they like. Maybe it’s squeezing results out of weak squads with tight budgets.
Maybe you could see (slightly) bigger clubs being interested in him and him acting like a tart 6 months ago. It took me by surprise.
We had a reset and a footballing enema last season. He gave us the worst start to a season for three decades and got sacked. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 15:02 5 Jan 2025
Not at all. I’m not attacking the playing style. It can be a hard watch, but I’ll make allowances when he’s clearly only got a very small group of championship level players.
Midfield, you’re absolutely right. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 14:09 5 Jan 2025
It’s a results business. The results have been better than they should have given the players he has.
Whether the method behind getting those results is frustrating is a secondary consideration.
One injury and we’ve got Cyrus Christie at centre back. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 13:44 5 Jan 2025
You’re right, there’s a lot of frustration watching us and while he tweaks tactics, he doesn’t change them unless he’s forced into it. Everybody knows how we are going to play.
But I keep going back to the state of our squad and the fact we’re nowhere near a relegation battle. By rights we should be in one. Results wise, we’re overachieving regardless of whether it can be a hard watch and how inconsistent we are.
I still want him out, but that’s because he’s made it clear he doesn’t want to be here and will dump us the minute he gets a slightly better offer. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 12:01 5 Jan 2025
Cullen has the same amount of goals as Yates and Kukharevych between them this season.
Vipotnik has the same game for us every week. He doesn’t attempt to impose himself on play, shies away from physical contact, presses gamely, comes short and plays a lay off once or twice a half, usually has a shot that ‘doesn’t miss by much’ and gets substituted after an hour having touched the ball 10 to 15 times.
Bianchini comes on, raw undoubtedly, but at least he puts himself about and shows a bit of desire.
Vipotnik may come good at some point and he’s going to score every five or six games by virtue of being a centre forward, but his contribution so far hat been negligible. I’m sick of people blaming other players for it. |
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Reply | There is no economic logic in keeping Darling.
at 11:02 5 Jan 2025
What about the precedent from a few weeks ago when Ben Cabango signed a new contract from a similar position? I’d agree he’s more likely to go, but ‘no chance’ is nonsense.
Harry Darling would have to agree to go now and almost certainly waive a decent chunk of his signing on fee.
We’re in a tough spot on this one and we have the previous regime to thank for that. |
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Reply | To clarify to date
at 10:33 5 Jan 2025
I’m not against his football. It’s not polished. It’s good in fits and starts and sometimes it lets us down. There’s the outline of a decent playing system there though, which probably won’t be realised until we get one or two in to improve the first team and a couple more to come off the bench without weakening us. I wouldn’t be opposed to his successor playing a similar way.
What I am against is our manager begging West Brom to give him a job. I understand ambition but there are ways to go about it. That patronising ‘smoothing over’ statement made it worse. Fans aren’t stupid. I’m far more opposed to that kind of personality managing us than to his kind of football.
Swans official have just put a ‘one year of the gaffer’ montage on their social media though, so I think it’s unlikely he’s in imminent danger. |
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Reply | To clarify to date
at 10:14 5 Jan 2025
It was muted. Very flat atmosphere.
Fans in the ground rarely want to turn against the manager until it’s too far gone.
He had pockets of muffled support. I didn’t hear any abuse at all. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 10:11 5 Jan 2025
He needs too much done for him. If you’re not going to do anything apart from score goals, you need to be scoring regularly. He’s got natural ability but he doesn’t help himself make the most of it.
Jerry - not for me. Derby fans love him but I don’t think he’s what we need.
You’re absolutely right, we’ve recruited horribly striker wise. Bianchini looks like he could be a good signing at least. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 09:26 5 Jan 2025
Vipotnik has no chance because he’s not interested until he gets given the ball, unmarked in shooting range.
Their #9 involved himself in the game, he didn’t wait for others to do it for him.
Cullen has been given a position that suits him better. He was awful and anonymous yesterday, but at least he doesn’t do that every game. |
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Reply | To clarify to date
at 09:21 5 Jan 2025
As opposed to keeping a manager who wants to be somewhere else and has openly disrespected the club.
That’s two sloppy performances in a row. The Portsmouth one had shades of Cardiff away last season. Players looked demotivated. Yesterday was better than that but way below our usual standards.
I don’t know if he’s lost the players, but they played like he had. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 18:13 4 Jan 2025
I hope so Rhondda.
People will have to accept that whoever replaces Williams will face the same squad depth handicap that he has all season and has never been more obvious than today.
Honestly think he’s a dead man walking after he crossed Coleman though.
I don’t mind our managers being ambitious and I would expect them to have their head turned by PL clubs or the likes of Leeds and Sheffield United.
To bend over for West Brom and disrespect the club while doing it though, is way too much. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 18:07 4 Jan 2025
I’d be happy to write that game off.
How many of our players were running on empty today? I’d say at least half, probably more.
Grimes will always want to play, but has been off his best for about a month. Cullen looked wrecked as well.
We can’t afford to rotate in the league, we can in the cup. |
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Reply | To clarify to date
at 17:25 4 Jan 2025
It will work. The only issue he’ll have is whether West Brom or anyone else bigger than us will want him. |
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Reply | To clarify to date
at 17:14 4 Jan 2025
Not at all, that’s exactly what it is.
Let’s not try to dress it up as an honest manager trying to be cute with the press or giving naive answers.
He thought he was on his way to West Brom and he was trying to grease the wheels. The insincere back tracking we saw yesterday and in his post match interview today makes no difference. Most of us can see through it and know he’ll be desperate to leave the minute a slightly bigger club bats their eyelashes at him. |
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Reply | Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion : Match day thread
at 17:08 4 Jan 2025
That was probably the least ‘Luke Williams’ performance I’ve seen this season. Probably because Christie isn’t trusted to play triangles out from the back. We lumped it clear at lot more today.
When we did try to play intricate football, we made a lot more mistakes than usual. Their goal came from miscommunication between Cullen and I think Franco. Grimes lost it a few times, not in especially dangerous positions, but he doesn’t have the pace to recover when he gets turned over.
I thought most of our team looked jaded. Others can afford to rotate, we can’t. Grimes, Cullen and Key looked particularly knackered. Only Darling and Franco had really good games IMO.
Lucky to get away with that if I’m honest. |
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