| Europa League Prices 07:25 - Sep 6 with 18734 views | jojaca |
After hearing news that Valencia were charging £7 a ticket out in spain. I though this would be a chance for the board to drop the prices or do £1 kids scheme promotion, especially after the poor attendances of the previous europa league. But they are charging £25/£30 a ticket in this ecomony with games on the telly. The only glamour tie is Valencia, the other two games are not very attractive for the money you have to pay. I have spoken to friends and family and we will be saving our money and watching it on the telly. The prices should have been a maximum of £15 a ticket for adult and would like to have seen £10. |  |
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| Europa League Prices on 11:44 - Sep 6 with 3191 views | Far_Post |
The ticket prices will put some off but you have to remember that in order for a club our size to keep competing at Premier League level and now on the European stage as well we have keep generating income especially from ticket sales.
The capacity of the Liberty is only just above 20k. The smallest in the division.
Even the club the size of Cardiff (Sorry to use them as an example) with an extra 7,000 fans every home game will generate over £4 million more than us just in ticket sales over the course of a season.
As a fan I would welcome any initiative to get more fans to attend Swans matches but opportunities to run these kind of schemes will be few and far between until the Liberty is expanded as planned. |  |
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| Europa League Prices on 11:50 - Sep 6 with 3178 views | 2face |
The support at home is vital. I say lower the prices. £10 or less. High prices and an empty stadium just means no money AND no supporters. Why not go for no money and a full stadium instead. | | | |
| Europa League Prices on 12:09 - Sep 6 with 3141 views | monmouth |
| Europa League Prices on 11:44 - Sep 6 by Far_Post |
The ticket prices will put some off but you have to remember that in order for a club our size to keep competing at Premier League level and now on the European stage as well we have keep generating income especially from ticket sales.
The capacity of the Liberty is only just above 20k. The smallest in the division.
Even the club the size of Cardiff (Sorry to use them as an example) with an extra 7,000 fans every home game will generate over £4 million more than us just in ticket sales over the course of a season.
As a fan I would welcome any initiative to get more fans to attend Swans matches but opportunities to run these kind of schemes will be few and far between until the Liberty is expanded as planned. |
In order to pay the Board £2m in dividends you mean?
[edit oh and as to the tossers up the road, I take your general point, but they're a bad specific. Interest of around £9m to their usurious money lender means they're pretty much financially f****d, however many numpties they get to watch their ten men cowering behind the ball]. [Post edited 6 Sep 2013 12:15]
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| Europa League Prices on 12:15 - Sep 6 with 3125 views | LT10__JS9__SS11 |
| Europa League Prices on 11:44 - Sep 6 by Far_Post |
The ticket prices will put some off but you have to remember that in order for a club our size to keep competing at Premier League level and now on the European stage as well we have keep generating income especially from ticket sales.
The capacity of the Liberty is only just above 20k. The smallest in the division.
Even the club the size of Cardiff (Sorry to use them as an example) with an extra 7,000 fans every home game will generate over £4 million more than us just in ticket sales over the course of a season.
As a fan I would welcome any initiative to get more fans to attend Swans matches but opportunities to run these kind of schemes will be few and far between until the Liberty is expanded as planned. |
This is entirely right. £20 is still over 50% off from £45.
We only get £200,000 per match from UEFA.
It is still a once in a generation opportunity for a club the size of ours. Just read the post on the other thread linked to the Stoke forum. They would do anything to relive their campaign | | | |
| Europa League Prices on 12:17 - Sep 6 with 3115 views | DafyddHuw |
| Europa League Prices on 09:32 - Sep 6 by KingBony |
20000000 potatoes |
What does that mean? |  | | |
| Europa League Prices on 12:34 - Sep 6 with 3087 views | jackforever |
Cant help think many are missing the point here. We have a club based in a social and economic deprived area. We have high unemployment, low wages, frozen wages and huge increases in the cost of living. Yet we have a football club booming, a club that has made huge profits and to be fair is using those profits on the whole wisely. However income from ticket sales especially the odd cup game form a tiny tiny part of our income and surely it wouldnt hurt the club which is "owned by the fans for the fans" to drop prices for cup games to a level that ensures both affordability for all and full houses. I for one cant see a problem with that.
If we can afford 2m dividends which equals around £140 of every season ticket then surely we can afford ten pound match tickets to ensure a full house. | | | |
| Europa League Prices on 12:36 - Sep 6 with 3083 views | 1983 |
Enjoy the TV then Premiership plastic... |  |
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| Europa League Prices on 12:57 - Sep 6 with 3051 views | Dyfnant |
Lets hope they distribute the thousands of spares for St Gallen & Kuzan to the schools early doors |  |
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| Europa League Prices on 12:57 - Sep 6 with 3048 views | CliffTop |
So the whole thing kicked off by the fact Valencia tickets are costing £7. What are they charging their home fans? It may well be that they are paying prices similar to what we are paying. | | | |
| Europa League Prices on 12:57 - Sep 6 with 3045 views | monmouth |
To 'Far Post'
I know you were generalising. There's been a lot of cardiff trolling lately and I wouldn't want them thinking if they read this thread they have anything to feel good about, cos they don't.
No, it wouldn't double the attendance, but they could try it and find out what impact it does have. Differential pricing strategies and exploratory price trials are hardly new concepts. At the moment, they are likely to get a half empty stadium. Lose-lose, don't you think? [Post edited 6 Sep 2013 12:58]
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| Europa League Prices on 13:02 - Sep 6 with 3035 views | Pegojack |
| Europa League Prices on 12:34 - Sep 6 by jackforever |
Cant help think many are missing the point here. We have a club based in a social and economic deprived area. We have high unemployment, low wages, frozen wages and huge increases in the cost of living. Yet we have a football club booming, a club that has made huge profits and to be fair is using those profits on the whole wisely. However income from ticket sales especially the odd cup game form a tiny tiny part of our income and surely it wouldnt hurt the club which is "owned by the fans for the fans" to drop prices for cup games to a level that ensures both affordability for all and full houses. I for one cant see a problem with that.
If we can afford 2m dividends which equals around £140 of every season ticket then surely we can afford ten pound match tickets to ensure a full house. |
Excellent post, my point exactly but more eloquently put. |  | | |
| Europa League Prices on 13:28 - Sep 6 with 3003 views | _ |
It's shocking and all it's doing is not generating more income for the club but alienating more and more fans.
Why can't they open their eyes enough and see the very simple basics?? Dineen's on Twitter bemoaning the shambles that is our ticket system, and how they've been let down by their provider. They've obviously cut costs and paid peanuts for it, what do they expect.
Why always short change us fans??
£2m dividend pay-out. Get off the gravy train and make sure the club is run for it's supporters not Director greed. |  |
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| Europa League Prices on 13:42 - Sep 6 with 2981 views | Neath_Jack |
| Europa League Prices on 12:34 - Sep 6 by jackforever |
Cant help think many are missing the point here. We have a club based in a social and economic deprived area. We have high unemployment, low wages, frozen wages and huge increases in the cost of living. Yet we have a football club booming, a club that has made huge profits and to be fair is using those profits on the whole wisely. However income from ticket sales especially the odd cup game form a tiny tiny part of our income and surely it wouldnt hurt the club which is "owned by the fans for the fans" to drop prices for cup games to a level that ensures both affordability for all and full houses. I for one cant see a problem with that.
If we can afford 2m dividends which equals around £140 of every season ticket then surely we can afford ten pound match tickets to ensure a full house. |
Superb post my friend, summed it up perfectly. |  |
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| Europa League Prices on 13:42 - Sep 6 with 2977 views | Uxbridge |
| Europa League Prices on 13:28 - Sep 6 by _ |
It's shocking and all it's doing is not generating more income for the club but alienating more and more fans.
Why can't they open their eyes enough and see the very simple basics?? Dineen's on Twitter bemoaning the shambles that is our ticket system, and how they've been let down by their provider. They've obviously cut costs and paid peanuts for it, what do they expect.
Why always short change us fans??
£2m dividend pay-out. Get off the gravy train and make sure the club is run for it's supporters not Director greed. |
Amen.
The club's, and Dineen's in particular, continued reluctance to accept even the mildest amount of criticism really grates. As for the ticketing system, the club signed off on it so any design or system issues are just as much their responsibility as their fall guys at tickets.com. It's pretty clear they didn't properly think about what they wanted the system to do or test the effin thing before us mugs got our hands on it .. as shown by their constant messing about with a system that falls over under less pressure than Danny Welbeck.
I've just bought 6 tickets for Valencia away. £42 for the tickets, £9 "convenience charge". That's £9 for some minimum wage lad ripping of a chain of 6 tickets and putting them in the same 50p postage that 1 ticket would cost. It's a complete disgrace.
As for the pricing of the home tickets, sadly I didn't expect otherwise. The £60 charge for season ticket holders (plus convenience fee, natch) is just about defensible, the higher charges for JA and public members less so and the matchday tickets outright ridiculous. There's a complete lack of regard for the economic realities of the customers (cos that's what we are these days) who are likely to attend a Thursday match ... it won't be the more affluent ones who live outside South Wales for example.
I'm sure this will be raised at the Trust event next week. I just hope we won't be fobbed off with bland platitudes. |  |
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| Europa League Prices on 13:46 - Sep 6 with 2845 views | Darran |
| Europa League Prices on 13:42 - Sep 6 by Uxbridge |
Amen.
The club's, and Dineen's in particular, continued reluctance to accept even the mildest amount of criticism really grates. As for the ticketing system, the club signed off on it so any design or system issues are just as much their responsibility as their fall guys at tickets.com. It's pretty clear they didn't properly think about what they wanted the system to do or test the effin thing before us mugs got our hands on it .. as shown by their constant messing about with a system that falls over under less pressure than Danny Welbeck.
I've just bought 6 tickets for Valencia away. £42 for the tickets, £9 "convenience charge". That's £9 for some minimum wage lad ripping of a chain of 6 tickets and putting them in the same 50p postage that 1 ticket would cost. It's a complete disgrace.
As for the pricing of the home tickets, sadly I didn't expect otherwise. The £60 charge for season ticket holders (plus convenience fee, natch) is just about defensible, the higher charges for JA and public members less so and the matchday tickets outright ridiculous. There's a complete lack of regard for the economic realities of the customers (cos that's what we are these days) who are likely to attend a Thursday match ... it won't be the more affluent ones who live outside South Wales for example.
I'm sure this will be raised at the Trust event next week. I just hope we won't be fobbed off with bland platitudes. |
Sorry to go off topic slightly but the convenience charge is a disgrace,aren't people paid a wage to deal with the sale of tickets in the first f*cking place? |  |
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| Europa League Prices on 13:49 - Sep 6 with 2833 views | KingBony |
| Europa League Prices on 12:17 - Sep 6 by DafyddHuw |
What does that mean? |
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| Europa League Prices on 13:54 - Sep 6 with 2817 views | Uxbridge |
| Europa League Prices on 13:46 - Sep 6 by Darran |
Sorry to go off topic slightly but the convenience charge is a disgrace,aren't people paid a wage to deal with the sale of tickets in the first f*cking place? |
You'd think, wouldn't you. Plus the marginal cost for an extra ticket is often nothing but they still charge an extra £1.50. Still, club gets its money so that's alright .... | |
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| Europa League Prices on 13:56 - Sep 6 with 2811 views | Neath_Jack |
| Europa League Prices on 13:54 - Sep 6 by Uxbridge |
You'd think, wouldn't you. Plus the marginal cost for an extra ticket is often nothing but they still charge an extra £1.50. Still, club gets its money so that's alright .... |
Careful, you'll get lambasted for daring to point out the error of the clubs ways. Be grateful. | |
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| Europa League Prices on 14:06 - Sep 6 with 2790 views | Uxbridge |
| Europa League Prices on 13:56 - Sep 6 by Neath_Jack |
Careful, you'll get lambasted for daring to point out the error of the clubs ways. Be grateful. |
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| Europa League Prices on 14:28 - Sep 6 with 2772 views | Croftyjack |
No glamour ties are you serious,we are in the Europa league group stages and is likely to be a one off experience...you swear we are Arsenal/Man Utd or something where we are in most seasons for christ sake..
£60 for 3 games=BARGAIN and thank you very much to the board for such realistic pricing...at least all the ones that wanted the Valencia tickets will now more than likely buy for 3 games meaning sell outs!!!! only people who are gutted are the F***ing plastics. | | | |
| Europa League Prices on 14:39 - Sep 6 with 2757 views | Uxbridge |
| Europa League Prices on 14:28 - Sep 6 by Croftyjack |
No glamour ties are you serious,we are in the Europa league group stages and is likely to be a one off experience...you swear we are Arsenal/Man Utd or something where we are in most seasons for christ sake..
£60 for 3 games=BARGAIN and thank you very much to the board for such realistic pricing...at least all the ones that wanted the Valencia tickets will now more than likely buy for 3 games meaning sell outs!!!! only people who are gutted are the F***ing plastics. |
Given that I just bought the pass for the three games, that rather contradicts your theory that the only people complaining about the pricing are those who just want to see the Valencia game.
Times are tough, and the club are making a significant profit at the moment. It'd be nice if some of those riches passed down to the fans. | |
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| Europa League Prices on 14:58 - Sep 6 with 2741 views | JackSomething |
| Europa League Prices on 14:39 - Sep 6 by Uxbridge |
Given that I just bought the pass for the three games, that rather contradicts your theory that the only people complaining about the pricing are those who just want to see the Valencia game.
Times are tough, and the club are making a significant profit at the moment. It'd be nice if some of those riches passed down to the fans. |
I'm in the exact same boat.
It's strange how defensive some fans are about anything to do with the club. I'm nowhere near T2C's strength of feeling, but am bemused at the notion that the club doesn't need to improve in any area when that's obviously not the case.
Our rapid rise through the leagues was an acceptable excuse for us lagging behind off the field for a while, but this is our third year in the Premier League. With the new TV money coming in, there's no excuse for them not to improve things for the fans. |  |
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