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So much better without Adel 19:38 - Mar 9 with 7459 views

Hate to say it cause he's been a joy to watch when on form, but we look a much better TEAM without him.

Are his days with us numbered?

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Shamima Beghum

So much better without Adel on 23:53 - Mar 10 with 964 views

MelakaRanger

So much better without Adel on 01:47 - Mar 10 by RangersAreBack
"Undoubtedly one of the greatest players who has ever played for Rangers..." Get a grip.

+1

Its strange. The past 24 months have shown that on this forum there seem to be three types of 'Adel' fans.

* The majority that, come what may, think he is the best player we have ever had, is almost a 'god' and will no accept any criticism of him at all. At times they respond angrily to perceived 'negative' posts.

* The sizeable minority that do not and would be happy for him to move on.

* The small minority that weigh up his performances, his pluses, his minuses, the good times and the bad times and post accordingly.

Well Adel certainly gets people 'talking'!

We need far fewer of the first category and far more in the last:)

So much better without Adel on 00:54 - Mar 11 with 943 views

qprmick

So much better without Adel on 23:53 - Mar 10 by MelakaRanger

Then there is the fourth mob, like you who never thought he was any good.

Qprmick

So much better without Adel on 01:08 - Mar 11 with 938 views

MelakaRanger

So much better without Adel on 00:54 - Mar 11 by qprmick
Then there is the fourth mob, like you who never thought he was any good.

Well QPRMICK

Firstly here are no 'mobs'. Secondly your statement is factually incorrect.

You, I believe, from your reply, fall into the first category. That's fine, everyone of us can have their own opinions.

I would like to think I fit into the third

Adel has done wonders for us in the past. When hes good, hes very very good. But when hes bad.........

Two years ago he was 'very good' for maybe 80%+ of his games.

This season maybe 10-20%?

Lets leave Harry to decide who he plays, when and how.

So much better without Adel on 01:10 - Mar 11 with 933 views

MelakaRanger

So much better without Adel on 01:08 - Mar 11 by MelakaRanger

Incidentally

Looking at QPRMICKS players ratings as per this site

My Top 5 Player Ratings
Adel Taarabt 10.00
Shaun Derry 9.00
Julio Cesar 9.00
Esteban Granero 9.00

So much better without Adel on 01:36 - Mar 11 with 931 views

ozexile

So much better without Adel on 01:10 - Mar 11 by MelakaRanger
Incidentally Looking at QPRMICKS players ratings as per this site My Top 5 Player Ratings Adel Taarabt 10.00 Shaun Derry 9.00 Julio Cesar 9.00 Esteban Granero 9.00

I think the main reason he divides fans is cause no one knows what his best position is. He's certainly no lone striker. You can't play him off Zamora cause he doesn't make runs behind defences. In the champs you could give him free reign in the oppositions half. But you can't do that at this level. He can though I believe have a major impact on sat if the game isn't going to plan. Place him between there back four and midfield. Do defenders then pick him up? Or does there midfield drop deep and get him? Either way it will create alot of room for our other attackers

So much better without Adel on 01:44 - Mar 11 with 926 views

MelakaRanger

So much better without Adel on 01:36 - Mar 11 by ozexile

Good points you make Ozexile

Also good idea if things are not going too well next Saturday

So much better without Adel on 02:22 - Mar 11 with 919 views

qprmick

So much better without Adel on 01:10 - Mar 11 by MelakaRanger
Incidentally Looking at QPRMICKS players ratings as per this site My Top 5 Player Ratings Adel Taarabt 10.00 Shaun Derry 9.00 Julio Cesar 9.00 Esteban Granero 9.00

Do you actually believe those, God wouldn't get a ten in my book. I probably put those in to lift those players averages above someone who I believe is not very good.
I dont believe Adel is God but he is better than anyone else in the last few years. Some people think we are a cross between Barcelona and Real Madrid because we have won 2 games. Hopefully our new found stars can carry on performing. Adel may then get some support. At the moment our goals from midfield are nearly non existent. As for those stats, you have Dyer on 7.00 and only 2 other players above him.

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Qprmick

So much better without Adel on 06:25 - Mar 11 with 890 views

cheeseydane

So much better without Adel on 10:06 - Mar 10 by Jamie
First off the bench to relieve Zamora IMO.

Im all for team bonding, but thats taking it a bit far imo.

Technology advances, unfortunately humans do not.

So much better without Adel (n/t) on 06:48 - Mar 11 with 875 views

DesertBoot

So much better without Adel on 06:25 - Mar 11 by cheeseydane
Im all for team bonding, but thats taking it a bit far imo.

Wish I could be like David Watts

So much better without Adel on 08:35 - Mar 11 with 838 views

hoopstilidie

There are times the set up won't suit him and there are times when it will, you use him as a sub for the former and you start him for the latter.
End

	Ringo Starr ate my hamper.
Poll:	Yes or no?

So much better without Adel on 08:53 - Mar 11 with 822 views

TheBlob

So much better without Adel on 23:53 - Mar 10 by MelakaRanger

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So how was the season for you?

So much better without Adel on 10:01 - Mar 11 with 806 views

QPR_Jim

I wonder if its just a case of more balance. We've dropped adel and Derry, adel obviously being a great attacker but poor defender and Derry his opposite. So i guess the opposition would identify this not worry about Derry and double up on adel and control our attacking threat. They can't do this anymore as there's not a Derry type they can back off of. Mbia would run at them and park would probably move forward and make a pass. The result of not having Derry is the defence isn't protected as much so we need the midfield to work as a team.

Just my opinion but i think dropping Derry is as key as dropping adel and that there is a link between the two.

So much better without Adel on 10:04 - Mar 11 with 804 views

daveB

So much better without Adel on 23:14 - Mar 10 by SpiritofGregory

Problem with Adel is that he is too stubborn. He will never get the big move he craves until he adapts his game and becomes a team player. Skill and technique is not enough you must also have a work ethic - the team comes first not the individual and sadly in Adel's world it's all about him.

Yes, he was great in the championship but that was a lower level and in the Premiership, he can't produce the same and becomes a luxury we can ill afford.

The team is clearly clicking without him, it would be madness to change a winning formula.

if you'd posted that 18 months ago I'd have agreed with you but he's been a team player and worked hard for the team all season, two bad games and suddenly he's getting stick on here again.

So much better without Adel on 10:43 - Mar 11 with 783 views

rsonist

The problem with Adel has always been the level of compromise you have to make for him to be in a team that also functions as a unit. It seems to be impossible to set up so that he's one cog in a machine rather than the single conduit for all our play. And at this level of the game that is a very high tactical price to pay.

So much better without Adel on 10:47 - Mar 11 with 781 views

daveB

So much better without Adel on 10:43 - Mar 11 by rsonist
The problem with Adel has always been the level of compromise you have to make for him to be in a team that also functions as a unit. It seems to be impossible to set up so that he's one cog in a machine rather than the single conduit for all our play. And at this level of the game that is a very high tactical price to pay.

the side functioned fine with him in january when we played very well against Spurs, Chelsea and City

So much better without Adel on 10:57 - Mar 11 with 762 views

highlandbill

So much better without Adel on 09:26 - Mar 10 by cjc

Its not AdelÂ´s fault its been circumstance, so Arry made the team play through Adel too much.
Hoillet back fit and Townsends signing has given us other options that change the whole look of the team.

I hope we can find a system to play as a whole team with Adel in it, love the guy and hope he knows what we think of him.
He is premiership class, no matter anyone says but just needs to stop doing so much trickery and needs a team around him that are a threat as well to draw players away from him or open the game up for him and others.

Totally agree! I am astonished to read some of the comments on this thread.
How can the player go from "Taraabt's too good for you" to "Taraabts not good enough for us" in just 2 games?
Has QPR been transformed overnight into a super streamlined goal machine because they did not field their best (up to now)player ?
Methinks that is sheer bollocks and I assume those who are saying we are better without Adel are just callow ,beardless youths who know f all about footie.

At my age I should not be doing this!

So much better without Adel on 11:02 - Mar 11 with 758 views

rsonist

Yeah but as I say everything was set up to go through him. And we didn't look particularly dangerous or have much variety in our play those games.

I'm certainly not knocking Adel, I'm a big fan, but I don't think anyone can pretend he's not something of a puzzle tactically.

I agree with the earlier poster who said Adel should come on for Zamora in future. I liked him a lot as false 9/hold up man (he was also very disciplined and applied himself well to the role) and perhaps with Remy and Hoilett buzzing around him it could work better offensively now.

So much better without Adel on 11:02 - Mar 11 with 757 views

Juzzie

I've not read all 4 pages but it seems to me there's a pattern;

Lose without Adel - "We need Adel!!!!"
Lose with Adel - "The systems not working"
Win with Adel "he's a hero"
Win without Adel "we don't need him"

The last two are more telling though.

So much better without Adel on 11:33 - Mar 11 with 730 views

QPRDave

All the pro AT fans....where does he fit in? And would you change a winning team to accommodate Adel? Because from what i can see that is the problem Adel is such a different player we have to find a role for him, as Warnock said a couple of years ago, ok NW did find a way, but teams soon realised stop Taarabt, you stop QPR

So much better without Adel on 11:54 - Mar 11 with 718 views

BlackCrowe

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2291258/Harry-Redknapp-calls-Q

"Taarabt wasn't fit suddenly, so I picked people who were fit and wanted to play and off we go. He's got a little bit of a thigh strain or something.

If you're building a football team you know the people you want and those you don't want around you because they'll let you down. I know exactly who they are."

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So much better without Adel on 12:01 - Mar 11 with 712 views

daveB

So much better without Adel on 11:33 - Mar 11 by QPRDave
All the pro AT fans....where does he fit in? And would you change a winning team to accommodate Adel? Because from what i can see that is the problem Adel is such a different player we have to find a role for him, as Warnock said a couple of years ago, ok NW did find a way, but teams soon realised stop Taarabt, you stop QPR

all depends what system we play, if we go 4-4-2 and direct I wouldn't play Taarabt, if we play 4-2-3-1 with Hoilett and Remy wide with Zamora up front then I'd go with Adel playing in the hole as with those attacking players around him he can cause damage. For next week I'd have him on the bench as a plan B.

When he plays up front on his own with 3 holding midfield players behind him he is going to have to do it all on his own and is unlikely to manage it which is when the stop Taarabt stop QPR thing comes into play but thats down to the manager to get more attacking players on the pitch with him.

Warnock found a way as he had Routledge, Smith and Helguson around him so when teams stopped taarabt that left space for the rest to win games. Same principal should apply now.

So much better without Adel on 12:25 - Mar 11 with 698 views

WeaverQPR

What does frustrate with Taarabt is his need to take extra touches rather than just move the ball on quickly.

@WeavQPR

So much better without Adel on 12:35 - Mar 11 with 682 views

daveB

So much better without Adel on 11:54 - Mar 11 by BlackCrowe

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He's said the same thing about Cesar in the past, Redknapp is pretty ruthless, he'l stand clapping and patting you on the back when he needs you but when he has other options you get comments like this in the press before he quickly back tracks when he needs that player again. Bosingwa the prime example of that one

So much better without Adel on 13:49 - Mar 11 with 644 views

PinnerPaul

So much better without Adel on 20:13 - Mar 9 by baz_qpr

How many chances did we create today, we got lucky from the first and two wonder goal long range efforts, other than that we created nothing and had a full back tacking corners and set pieces one of which led to their goal I agree we give AT too much responsibility. I also think he is far better from the left than as a second striker unless we play 4-2-3-1.

I doubt its the last we have heard of AT, and he will no doubt come on and dig us from a hole like he has done many times before

????????

Were you there?

Hoilett's shot that went inches past the post, lovely move ending with BZ knock down that Remy put over, Mackies one on with GK, Mbia's long range shot.

That with about 5 sec thinking time, there were more.

Logging off now, sure some on here are on the wind up, I really do.

So much better without Adel on 13:52 - Mar 11 with 977 views

Juzzie

So much better without Adel on 13:49 - Mar 11 by PinnerPaul
???????? Were you there? Hoilett's shot that went inches past the post, lovely move ending with BZ knock down that Remy put over, Mackies one on with GK, Mbia's long range shot. That with about 5 sec thinking time, there were more. Logging off now, sure some on here are on the wind up, I really do.

I see so many people spending most of the game looking at their smart-phones i wonder why they bother to take the trouble and expense of going.

Not suggesting baz does this, but just observing how so many people seem to miss the game that's going on right in front of them.

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