| Home Office on 21:56 - Aug 29 with 741 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Home Office on 21:55 - Aug 29 by Flashberryjack |
Starmer is as big a liar as Boris was. |
Starmer is far far worse. |  |
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| Home Office on 21:58 - Aug 29 with 737 views | Dr_Winston |
What we're seeing isn't all that unexpected.
Very few people actually voted "for" Labour in the last election. Far more people voted for other parties or didn't vote at all. What we actually saw was a collapse in the Tory vote since 2019.
Had the Conservatives actually delivered on what they promised in 2019 then perhaps they'd have won this election too. Certainly those who voted for them then would have liked to have voted for them now otherwise they would have voted for Labour rather than Reform or not at all.
If the Tories get their shit together under a competent leader then perhaps this Labour majority will last as long as Boris Johnsons' did. It's increasingly likely if Starmer carries on being the Prick he has done so far. |  |
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| Home Office on 21:58 - Aug 29 with 737 views | Fireboy2 |
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| Home Office on 22:03 - Aug 29 with 727 views | majorraglan |
| Home Office on 11:07 - Aug 29 by AnotherJohn |
The Tories made a mess of things (although I think all sides supported the country-specific social protection schemes). However, you also need to look at Labour MPs' voting records and public statements whenever proposals to clamp down on immigration were made. The recent proposal to reopen the two immigration detention centres is diametrically opposite to what most Labour MPs wanted when in opposition. Remember that resolution at the 2019 Annual Conference saying the manifesto should commit to āmaintain and extend free movement rightsā, āclose all detention centresā and to āreject any immigration system based on incomes, migrantsā utility to business, and number caps/targets.ā [Post edited 29 Aug 13:59]
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That was 5 years ago, since then the landscape has radically changed.
Weāve had 135,000 small boat arrivals since 2018 and total net migration in the last 5 calendar years 2018-2023 is nearly 2.5m, that excludes what is likely to be another 500,000 net incoming this year.
The move to reopen the detention centres which were closed by the previous government in my opinion a positive move and hopefully shows a new resolve under Starmer as opposed to what we had under Corbyn. |  | | |
| Home Office on 22:13 - Aug 29 with 707 views | Fireboy2 |
| Home Office on 21:55 - Aug 29 by Flashberryjack |
Starmer is as big a liar as Boris was. |
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Fvcking hell, that is a good one.
I havent posted on political topics for a while but this one is so funny, im.with max on this one, it's great to see the tories out in force, its like a coven of witches casting nasty spells on starmer, just praying and hoping him and them to fail, no matter what they do you lot will be moaning and cussing, ffs they have been in charge for 3 months.
FYI have a look at how yvette cooper has spelt out how they are going to stop the illegal immigration problem out, you won't see it on the usual rw media outlets that you lot read or watch because they know it's a great plan, something the tories didn't do, they spent over 250 million to send 4 people to rwanda, fvck my eyes. | | | |
| Home Office on 22:15 - Aug 29 with 698 views | Fireboy2 |
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| Home Office on 22:40 - Aug 29 with 658 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Home Office on 22:15 - Aug 29 by Fireboy2 |
HAHAHAHA that is even funnier š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ |
He lies almost every time he opens his mouth. | |
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| Home Office on 22:50 - Aug 29 with 649 views | Wingstandwood |
| Home Office on 21:58 - Aug 29 by Fireboy2 |
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Yep indeed, rejoice in a medium that will be partly responsible for the permanent mass abandonment of traditional (all 20% of them) Labour voters in a way that is utterly surpassed! |  |
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| Home Office on 23:08 - Aug 29 with 615 views | Boundy |
| Home Office on 22:13 - Aug 29 by Fireboy2 |
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Fvcking hell, that is a good one.
I havent posted on political topics for a while but this one is so funny, im.with max on this one, it's great to see the tories out in force, its like a coven of witches casting nasty spells on starmer, just praying and hoping him and them to fail, no matter what they do you lot will be moaning and cussing, ffs they have been in charge for 3 months.
FYI have a look at how yvette cooper has spelt out how they are going to stop the illegal immigration problem out, you won't see it on the usual rw media outlets that you lot read or watch because they know it's a great plan, something the tories didn't do, they spent over 250 million to send 4 people to rwanda, fvck my eyes. |
I have to say just because someone is being critical of the labour party automatically makes them a Tory voter ,in my case and I suspect many others nothing could be further from the truth. No one should be above criticism and rightly so and we should be happy that we live in a society that criticism should be encouraged amd allowed, but I suspect looking at some of the charges against individuals for posting comments on line for giving their honest "opinion" that freedom of speech can be eroded in the sweep of an signature. | |
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| Home Office on 23:18 - Aug 29 with 606 views | Fireboy2 |
| Home Office on 23:08 - Aug 29 by Boundy |
I have to say just because someone is being critical of the labour party automatically makes them a Tory voter ,in my case and I suspect many others nothing could be further from the truth. No one should be above criticism and rightly so and we should be happy that we live in a society that criticism should be encouraged amd allowed, but I suspect looking at some of the charges against individuals for posting comments on line for giving their honest "opinion" that freedom of speech can be eroded in the sweep of an signature. |
Do you know what these individuals have posted? And where have got this info from?
Btw this government have been in charge for less than 2 months, it doesn't take a nuclear scientist to work out which side of politics the critics lean towards.
They will moan and cuss until Labour are out of government. | | | |
| Home Office on 23:20 - Aug 29 with 602 views | Fireboy2 |
| Home Office on 22:40 - Aug 29 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
He lies almost every time he opens his mouth. |
Sorry, I still cannot stop laughing at your starmer worse than boris johnson post š¤£ [Post edited 29 Aug 23:21]
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| Home Office on 23:54 - Aug 29 with 578 views | Boundy |
| Home Office on 23:18 - Aug 29 by Fireboy2 |
Do you know what these individuals have posted? And where have got this info from?
Btw this government have been in charge for less than 2 months, it doesn't take a nuclear scientist to work out which side of politics the critics lean towards.
They will moan and cuss until Labour are out of government. |
There always seems to be a reluctance to accept anyone who states they're not of any particular political persuasion, just posters who see things as they are , you must accept the fact that voter turnout across the UK as a whole was reportedly 60%, declining from 67.3% in 2019. That would be the lowest since 2001 when it dropped to 59.4%, and the second lowest since 1918 when turnout was 57.2%, only 34% of the electorate voted Labour with 40% not bothering to vote at all and that is sometimes reflected on here.
Julie Sweeney sentenced to 15 months in jail for writing a comment about blowing up a mosque, would you be at rested and charged if you posted something of equal sentiment about the House of Lords, I doubt it very much .
Crown Prosecution Service pursuing people and having them being arrested for re sharing images of rioting , not being there or involved but because you shared it on line. State censorship by other means . fear. | |
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| Home Office on 00:43 - Aug 30 with 553 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Home Office on 23:20 - Aug 29 by Fireboy2 |
Sorry, I still cannot stop laughing at your starmer worse than boris johnson post š¤£ [Post edited 29 Aug 23:21]
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Thereās none so blind as those that will not see. Bloke is a compulsive liar. Carry on laughing if you wish but there will come a point when you realise it is not a laughing matter whatsoever. | |
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| Home Office on 01:19 - Aug 30 with 543 views | Robbie |
Somewhere along this debate or maybe other relevant themes mentioned same horse different jockey , this really is proving our incompetence in Westminster as a power .
After the appalling stabbings of three innocent people in Germany last week .
The Beeb reporting Germany are closing the barn door , anybody seen a horse about .
Angela Merkel opened that bolt and later did a runner .
Politicians . got to love them . | | | |
| Home Office on 07:20 - Aug 30 with 501 views | Fireboy2 |
| Home Office on 00:43 - Aug 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Thereās none so blind as those that will not see. Bloke is a compulsive liar. Carry on laughing if you wish but there will come a point when you realise it is not a laughing matter whatsoever. |
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| Home Office on 07:51 - Aug 30 with 482 views | AnotherJohn |
| Home Office on 22:03 - Aug 29 by majorraglan |
That was 5 years ago, since then the landscape has radically changed.
Weāve had 135,000 small boat arrivals since 2018 and total net migration in the last 5 calendar years 2018-2023 is nearly 2.5m, that excludes what is likely to be another 500,000 net incoming this year.
The move to reopen the detention centres which were closed by the previous government in my opinion a positive move and hopefully shows a new resolve under Starmer as opposed to what we had under Corbyn. |
The votes and comments I am referring to were in the last Parliament, not five years ago.. Regarding the 2019 conference resolution, most of those who voted that way are still in the Party and won't have changed their views greatly. Yes, Starmer has engineered a change in manifesto content, but that rests of a fragile compromise that in my opinion will stop short of draconian action. As Sir Keir said the other day, things are likely to get worse before they get better - and in the immigration domain many on the left will not be at all worried. That D-Ream song that the Labour activists played as Sunak took his rain shower could look very hollow. I think we will see a fall in the Home Office hotel bill but that there will be a corresponding rise in the local authority accommodation bill for refugees they are legally obliged to house. | | | |
| Home Office on 08:07 - Aug 30 with 476 views | Gwyn737 |
| Home Office on 23:54 - Aug 29 by Boundy |
There always seems to be a reluctance to accept anyone who states they're not of any particular political persuasion, just posters who see things as they are , you must accept the fact that voter turnout across the UK as a whole was reportedly 60%, declining from 67.3% in 2019. That would be the lowest since 2001 when it dropped to 59.4%, and the second lowest since 1918 when turnout was 57.2%, only 34% of the electorate voted Labour with 40% not bothering to vote at all and that is sometimes reflected on here.
Julie Sweeney sentenced to 15 months in jail for writing a comment about blowing up a mosque, would you be at rested and charged if you posted something of equal sentiment about the House of Lords, I doubt it very much .
Crown Prosecution Service pursuing people and having them being arrested for re sharing images of rioting , not being there or involved but because you shared it on line. State censorship by other means . fear. |
On the House of Lords equivalence, Iād say it depends.
If the individuals in the lords were in immediate danger by mobs turning up at their houses (attacking police to get to them), setting their properties on fire in a coordinated campaign over time that led to the government warning people not to inflame tensions at risk of punitive sanctions to quell the riots, then Iād say you threatening to blow their place of work up is unwise.
In normal times the sentences would seem harsh but the did take the heat out of the situation. | | | |
| Home Office on 09:59 - Aug 30 with 453 views | max936 |
| Home Office on 01:19 - Aug 30 by Robbie |
Somewhere along this debate or maybe other relevant themes mentioned same horse different jockey , this really is proving our incompetence in Westminster as a power .
After the appalling stabbings of three innocent people in Germany last week .
The Beeb reporting Germany are closing the barn door , anybody seen a horse about .
Angela Merkel opened that bolt and later did a runner .
Politicians . got to love them . |
Great post Robbie, have an up arrow |  |
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| Home Office on 10:06 - Aug 30 with 448 views | max936 |
| Home Office on 07:20 - Aug 30 by Fireboy2 |
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Can't believe people are still leaning towards the Tories after what they have done to the country, "none are so blind are those who can't see" indeed, Unbelievable Jeff! | |
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| Home Office on 10:09 - Aug 30 with 446 views | mangohilljack |
It still blows my mind how so many people genuinely believe that if the 'other' party were in there things would be so much better.
Same old tripe decade after decade and people still fall for it.
If people want meaningful change then they have to address the root cause.
labour or the tories are not the root cause they are the symptom (puppets on a string) | | | |
| Home Office on 10:23 - Aug 30 with 444 views | max936 |
| Home Office on 10:09 - Aug 30 by mangohilljack |
It still blows my mind how so many people genuinely believe that if the 'other' party were in there things would be so much better.
Same old tripe decade after decade and people still fall for it.
If people want meaningful change then they have to address the root cause.
labour or the tories are not the root cause they are the symptom (puppets on a string) |
Said same thing over and over many many times, UK politics needs a complete overall, to many pillocks there who have no idea how other people outside their wealthy bubble live.
no idea!
Disband the House of Lords as a start, especially when you got the likes of Peter Hain in there and he's not the worst. [Post edited 30 Aug 10:25]
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| Home Office on 10:52 - Aug 30 with 423 views | union_jack |
| Home Office on 10:06 - Aug 30 by max936 |
Can't believe people are still leaning towards the Tories after what they have done to the country, "none are so blind are those who can't see" indeed, Unbelievable Jeff! |
Itās moot, both are or have been absolutely awful in different ways. Who is worse matters not a jot.
But Starmer, who is in the chair now and therefore relevant, is not helping his cause with two-tier policing (yes, it does exist), removal of the Pensionersā fuel allowance, increasing amounts of CGT and IHT with a possibility of the former being applied to primary residences and my favourite (not!) means tested state pension.
Start taxing disproportionately the wealthier people and they will go āon strikeā meaning theyāll move their revenue earning assets or funds off shore or find other ways.
Also, hit pensioners and disposable income will be affected meaning less revenue again through normal taxation.
They need to be very careful that they donāt spark a revolt that will damage them irreparably. |  |
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| Home Office on 11:03 - Aug 30 with 419 views | max936 |
| Home Office on 10:52 - Aug 30 by union_jack |
Itās moot, both are or have been absolutely awful in different ways. Who is worse matters not a jot.
But Starmer, who is in the chair now and therefore relevant, is not helping his cause with two-tier policing (yes, it does exist), removal of the Pensionersā fuel allowance, increasing amounts of CGT and IHT with a possibility of the former being applied to primary residences and my favourite (not!) means tested state pension.
Start taxing disproportionately the wealthier people and they will go āon strikeā meaning theyāll move their revenue earning assets or funds off shore or find other ways.
Also, hit pensioners and disposable income will be affected meaning less revenue again through normal taxation.
They need to be very careful that they donāt spark a revolt that will damage them irreparably. |
"They need to be very careful that they donāt spark a revolt that will damage them irreparably."
Well that'll be both labour and Tories in the doldrums, that could be whats needed to revelutionise British Politic's and bring it into the 21 century at long last.
Time to embrace change! | |
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| Home Office on 13:00 - Aug 30 with 377 views | DaPs166 |
| Home Office on 21:01 - Aug 29 by max936 |
Can you recall what the Country has been through over the last 5 years or more firstly under Bumble, then the disastrous Truss and vthen smiley miley and his chief cook Hunt.
You lot completely ignore that time and instead smash a Labour government that's been in office less than three months, absolute joke if you can't accept or see that keep your heads buried in the Sand. [Post edited 29 Aug 21:02]
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You have one mode and one claim and you use it on all people regardless of reality.
Just because the Conservatives were sh*t it doesnāt mean Labour are excused when they make bad decisions.
Grow up and move away from partisan politics and you may be able to have a productive conversation in future | | | |
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