| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... 23:37 - Aug 1 with 3667 views | theloneranger |
"Donald Trump has been charged with four counts after a grand jury examined his efforts to overturn the 2020 election result
Charges include conspiracy to defraud the United States and an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding
Special Counsel Jack Smith was appointed to oversee investigations into Trump, including his involvement in the 6 January riot which occurred while Congress was certifying Joe Biden's victory
Trump has been summoned to appear in court on Thursday in Washington DC before a judge
He already faces charges brought by Smith's team over alleged mishandling of classified documents in Florida
The former president also faces trial in New York City for falsifying business records in hush money payments to an adult film star."
"The indictment also lists six co-conspirators but does not name them."
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-08-01/donald-trump-lashes-out-as-he-says-he-expect
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 08:19 - Aug 2 with 2679 views | SullutaCreturned |
Trump's biggest defender is gone from this site but no doubt he'd come up with some defence of the "Donald" maybe he's say this was minor nonsense or something like.
Truly, the USA is even more fecked than the UK, Trump and Biden make Bojo and Corbyn look like reasonable choices. Now we have Sunak and Starmer which seems like another improvement but who knows.
Trump is a dangerous man, it was much heralded that the USA didn't attack a foreign country while he was POTUS but look what he did to his own country. |  | | |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 08:27 - Aug 2 with 2670 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I'm pleased we have an independent commission for appointing judges. The very fact that there is a political appointment system in the US creates obvious problems. |  |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 09:25 - Aug 2 with 2653 views | onehunglow |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 08:19 - Aug 2 by SullutaCreturned |
Trump's biggest defender is gone from this site but no doubt he'd come up with some defence of the "Donald" maybe he's say this was minor nonsense or something like.
Truly, the USA is even more fecked than the UK, Trump and Biden make Bojo and Corbyn look like reasonable choices. Now we have Sunak and Starmer which seems like another improvement but who knows.
Trump is a dangerous man, it was much heralded that the USA didn't attack a foreign country while he was POTUS but look what he did to his own country. |
It’s often the case initial impressions turn out to be vindicated.
In Trump ‘ s case , the preening,arrogant,deeply devious craohouse is just what he is .
Sadly, USA can’t see through him
They deny the obvious | |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 09:41 - Aug 2 with 2647 views | Gwyn737 |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 08:27 - Aug 2 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I'm pleased we have an independent commission for appointing judges. The very fact that there is a political appointment system in the US creates obvious problems. |
We should be fiercely protective of our justice system which is truly blind from prejudice.
We should be furious with the way austerity since 2010 had trashed our courts and made waiting times for trials unacceptable.
We should hold politicians to account when they talk about being tough on crime and locking people up when the prisons are already full to bursting.
We should call posters out when they make ridiculous sweeping statements about entire professions whose job is to make the above work. | | | |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:22 - Aug 2 with 2601 views | controversial_jack |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 09:41 - Aug 2 by Gwyn737 |
We should be fiercely protective of our justice system which is truly blind from prejudice.
We should be furious with the way austerity since 2010 had trashed our courts and made waiting times for trials unacceptable.
We should hold politicians to account when they talk about being tough on crime and locking people up when the prisons are already full to bursting.
We should call posters out when they make ridiculous sweeping statements about entire professions whose job is to make the above work. |
We do have a more independent system than the US has, but it's not perfect. It's adversarial, the money money and influence you have the better your chances of getting off are | | | |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:42 - Aug 2 with 2601 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 09:25 - Aug 2 by onehunglow |
It’s often the case initial impressions turn out to be vindicated.
In Trump ‘ s case , the preening,arrogant,deeply devious craohouse is just what he is .
Sadly, USA can’t see through him
They deny the obvious |
Lots of presidents have been preening arrogant deeply devious craohouses though but for whatever reason Trump seems to be held to a different standard. If he’s committed a criminal offence then by all means they should go after him and lock him up.
But they can’t then simultaneously turn a blind eye to all the others acting immorally such as Bidens illicit dealings with his crack head son, or his sick and disgusting tendency to touch sniff and nibble young girls openly in plain sight. If he’s doing that in the open what does he do behind closed doors? Even his daughter says she was made to shower with him until she got too old for him. Yet there’s radio silence. |  |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:42 - Aug 2 with 2601 views | Gwyn737 |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:22 - Aug 2 by controversial_jack |
We do have a more independent system than the US has, but it's not perfect. It's adversarial, the money money and influence you have the better your chances of getting off are |
I didn’t say it was perfect.
Can still be proud of it though. | | | |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:56 - Aug 2 with 2587 views | PawelAbbott |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:42 - Aug 2 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Lots of presidents have been preening arrogant deeply devious craohouses though but for whatever reason Trump seems to be held to a different standard. If he’s committed a criminal offence then by all means they should go after him and lock him up.
But they can’t then simultaneously turn a blind eye to all the others acting immorally such as Bidens illicit dealings with his crack head son, or his sick and disgusting tendency to touch sniff and nibble young girls openly in plain sight. If he’s doing that in the open what does he do behind closed doors? Even his daughter says she was made to shower with him until she got too old for him. Yet there’s radio silence. |
Maybe there is radio silence because the story was unproven.
Https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ashley-biden-leaked-diary-accusation/ | | | |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 12:36 - Aug 2 with 2583 views | Gwyn737 |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:56 - Aug 2 by PawelAbbott |
Maybe there is radio silence because the story was unproven.
Https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ashley-biden-leaked-diary-accusation/ |
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Biden has been a poor president and and don’t really know enough to comment on the criminal element of Trumps misdeeds but I do know that his refusal to concede a legitimate election win has been devastating. | | | |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 13:13 - Aug 2 with 2569 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 12:36 - Aug 2 by Gwyn737 |
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Biden has been a poor president and and don’t really know enough to comment on the criminal element of Trumps misdeeds but I do know that his refusal to concede a legitimate election win has been devastating. |
I'm not a Biden fan, he's been poor too and hs running mate caused riiots with her language so she's as bad as Trump.
Trump though, different gravy and there's no point in comparing him with POTUS gone by right now. Trum may not have invaded anywhere foreign, or bombed them BUT between him and Kamala Harris (sic) they tore the USA apart in a way even worse than Brexit did here.
Friend v friend and family v family up to and including serious violence and racist attacks. Culminating with the attack on Capitol Hill.
If our politicians don't improve are such things on their way here? | | | |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 13:55 - Aug 2 with 2549 views | onehunglow |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:42 - Aug 2 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Lots of presidents have been preening arrogant deeply devious craohouses though but for whatever reason Trump seems to be held to a different standard. If he’s committed a criminal offence then by all means they should go after him and lock him up.
But they can’t then simultaneously turn a blind eye to all the others acting immorally such as Bidens illicit dealings with his crack head son, or his sick and disgusting tendency to touch sniff and nibble young girls openly in plain sight. If he’s doing that in the open what does he do behind closed doors? Even his daughter says she was made to shower with him until she got too old for him. Yet there’s radio silence. |
Sorry but O can go back to Harry Truman days and nobody since is anything like as bad as Trump. | |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 14:03 - Aug 2 with 2543 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 12:36 - Aug 2 by Gwyn737 |
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Biden has been a poor president and and don’t really know enough to comment on the criminal element of Trumps misdeeds but I do know that his refusal to concede a legitimate election win has been devastating. |
But then the other side can question the legitimacy of an election with impunity and were allowed to carry on for years with no criminal investigations or indictments. It’s all there in plain sight.
https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html?gu | |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 14:36 - Aug 2 with 2534 views | Gwyn737 |
Fortunately she was never elected.
Again, her behaviour has not been good but nothing like Trump.
For any similarity you’ll at the very least have to point me to the dozens of ‘stop the steal’ rallies she ran or the multimillion raised to fight her claims.
Where’s her version of the My Pillow Guy rallies. Who is her Rudy Guliani? Or Alex Jones. Or Sidney Powell? [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 14:39]
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 17:49 - Aug 2 with 2474 views | majorraglan |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:42 - Aug 2 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Lots of presidents have been preening arrogant deeply devious craohouses though but for whatever reason Trump seems to be held to a different standard. If he’s committed a criminal offence then by all means they should go after him and lock him up.
But they can’t then simultaneously turn a blind eye to all the others acting immorally such as Bidens illicit dealings with his crack head son, or his sick and disgusting tendency to touch sniff and nibble young girls openly in plain sight. If he’s doing that in the open what does he do behind closed doors? Even his daughter says she was made to shower with him until she got too old for him. Yet there’s radio silence. |
Maybe that’s because of his behaviour, we’ve got the unfounded claims of election rigging, fraud whatever you want to call it, a riot in the cradle of their democracy plus a whole host of alleged misconduct including fraud. The Americans operate a Grand Jury system, which in effect means a group of 23 members of the public are presented with information and they then make a decision as to whether the case should go to trial. On this occasion, the decision is that there is case to answer.
In terms of Biden, Project Veritas are completely unreliable - that said, I’d hold him to the same standards as Trump and any other citizen. No one should have preferential treatment or be be victimised by the system. [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 17:52]
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 20:00 - Aug 2 with 2405 views | majorraglan |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 11:22 - Aug 2 by controversial_jack |
We do have a more independent system than the US has, but it's not perfect. It's adversarial, the money money and influence you have the better your chances of getting off are |
Or using the legal system to close down stories in the media about inappropriate relationships etc.
I agree with your points - it is better than the politicised US judiciary. Money most certainly makes a difference to your chances in Court and it’s also extremely difficult for working people to access Legal Aid, especially for Crown Court cases.
An independent judiciary is a cornerstone of democracy. Our current government have sought to reduce the ability of the judiciary to oversee aspects of government workings by restricting the right to judicial review and limiting the power of the Supreme Court - no one should be above the law including government and their attempts to curb the right of people to scrutinise decision making must be challenged. | | | |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 20:33 - Aug 2 with 2386 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 09:41 - Aug 2 by Gwyn737 |
We should be fiercely protective of our justice system which is truly blind from prejudice.
We should be furious with the way austerity since 2010 had trashed our courts and made waiting times for trials unacceptable.
We should hold politicians to account when they talk about being tough on crime and locking people up when the prisons are already full to bursting.
We should call posters out when they make ridiculous sweeping statements about entire professions whose job is to make the above work. |
Yes - thats why the following was so dangerous from the Tory friends ….
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 20:36 - Aug 2 with 2385 views | Kilkennyjack |
Tick tock you MF Trump ….. ⏰ | |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 13:47 - Aug 4 with 2272 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 20:36 - Aug 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Tick tock you MF Trump ….. ⏰ |
He still more popular in the USA than the geriatric, racists president suffering from advanced dementia. | |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 13:57 - Aug 4 with 2272 views | onehunglow |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 13:47 - Aug 4 by felixstowe_jack |
He still more popular in the USA than the geriatric, racists president suffering from advanced dementia. |
Shows how badly off is USA if Trump is seen as in any way electable.
His hair is miraculous though
The magistrate judge is of colour as is the future trial judge which will irk him.
He had to wait for the judge and Donald j doesn’t do waiting . Tough
Hopefully, we 2ll see this oil being cut down to size. The world is w@thing if USA can be great again. Sending this chap to jail would be mo#t gratifying but I wouldn’t hold my breath .
Imagine if he gets off … | |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 14:43 - Aug 4 with 2256 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 20:36 - Aug 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Tick tock you MF Trump ….. ⏰ |
Jeff Tiedrich is obviously an intellectual with a firm grip of the nuance of political discourse. | |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 15:11 - Aug 4 with 2237 views | union_jack |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 20:36 - Aug 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Tick tock you MF Trump ….. ⏰ |
Look, Trump will not go to jail. It’s the USA where money buys you freedom but more than that, if he gets imprisoned there’ll be riots on the streets with his brain cell challenged supporters. They’ll want to avoid that at all costs. The worst that will happen would be some kind of house arrest.
That said, I’d be delighted if you are right. |  |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 15:21 - Aug 4 with 2228 views | DJack |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 15:11 - Aug 4 by union_jack |
Look, Trump will not go to jail. It’s the USA where money buys you freedom but more than that, if he gets imprisoned there’ll be riots on the streets with his brain cell challenged supporters. They’ll want to avoid that at all costs. The worst that will happen would be some kind of house arrest.
That said, I’d be delighted if you are right. |
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| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 15:54 - Aug 4 with 2221 views | Dr_Winston |
I seem to recall Hilary Clinton and loads of her supporters spending months, even years whining about the 2016 election and claiming that it was rigged by the Russians. Not hard to imagine her having to be dragged out of office kicking and screaming if the boot were on the other foot.
Having said that, it would be deeply funny if Trump ended up doing jail time. Unlike those who think money is an automatic guarantee of staying out of clink in America I can see it happening, although he'd certainly end up in some sort of Club Fed rather than proper clink. |  |
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| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 15:56 - Aug 4 with 2218 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Donald Trump indicted over attempts to overturn 2020 election result ... on 15:11 - Aug 4 by union_jack |
Look, Trump will not go to jail. It’s the USA where money buys you freedom but more than that, if he gets imprisoned there’ll be riots on the streets with his brain cell challenged supporters. They’ll want to avoid that at all costs. The worst that will happen would be some kind of house arrest.
That said, I’d be delighted if you are right. |
If all that is true then the USA is not far from complete social break down.
With all the guns available out there, if Trumpers riot it could easily spread into a full scale insurrection and who knows how many service personnel are Trump supporters.
Surely sanity still has a foothold stateside? | | | |
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