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It's just some left wing twaddle quoted by Bazza again. There's no truth in it the way Bazza has modified the original quote from a 6 year old pressure group. Lies, damned lies, and twisted statistics.
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Sturgeon resigns on 18:49 - Feb 15 with 2377 views
It's just some left wing twaddle quoted by Bazza again. There's no truth in it the way Bazza has modified the original quote from a 6 year old pressure group. Lies, damned lies, and twisted statistics.
Must be time for the Krankies to reform.
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
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Sturgeon resigns on 19:33 - Feb 15 with 2321 views
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Sturgeon resigns on 21:24 - Feb 15 with 2179 views
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okay so only Poland is in Europe and they have proportional representation?
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See this yeah, it's not, can you google the name of a book. Its, can you name one?
So i've already given you one: Wales
Can you name another with or without the help of Google? As you've actually used Google and actually still managed to fail.
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Sturgeon resigns on 22:11 - Feb 15 with 2109 views
Like Bazza, JimmyR you are also prone to modifying your posts when it suits your tale. Bazza never said anything about countries in Europe in his original post. He said two countries - England and Belarus. I asked for a link to his twaddle in the belief he could not do so. He hasn't done so thus proving he wasn't telling the truth. When I said his post was codswallop, it really, really was. He knew it and subsequently altered the original post as he often does when confronted. The man appears addicted to posting misleading information to make the UK look bad. He needs an honesty adjustment. Christ knows what kind of political system he wants for England but it most certainly will not be founded on honesty as a principle. Is it just you left wingers in general who can't tell the truth or are you really merelyt Bazza in disguise?
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Sturgeon resigns on 22:53 - Feb 15 with 2080 views
I think it could be argued that we already have extremists in government. Sending migrants to Rwanda, calling for the death penalty, and putting protesters in jail for ten years doesn’t seem very mainstream to me.
There are only two nations that use our version of FPtP in Europe. Us and Belarus.
You are saying that famous beacon of non extremism Belarus has a better system than Norway for avoiding extremists.
Also, people’s definition of extremists is usually flexible to suit their own politics. Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, Che Guevara, and James Connolly famously labelled terrorists and extremists. Now they have statues in Parliament and are printed on T Shirts.
No more from me. Happy to DM though.
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Sigh. It's like we don't exist over here.
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Sturgeon resigns on 22:54 - Feb 15 with 2078 views
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As a former resident of Yangon, we can safely say that following the 1 February 2021 coup by the generals, the next election - should it be allowed - will be totally devoid of democratic processes and any FPTP winners not a general, will likely be shot or imprisoned.
Similarly, as a former Doha resident, the FPTP is likely to result in the winner coming from the ruiling family. Again.
Equally, as a forner resident of Atlanta, for many black people, the FPTP really means the first black person allowed to vote in that ward is also the last person likelyto vote.
So the wiki list might say FPTP exists in several countries, but it's hiding a multitude of 'factors' in some that I know of.
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'Always In Motion' by John Honney available on amazon.co.uk
FptP system came home to me during a trip to Rome a couple of years back
A heavy night of rain left the roads flooded. Bored waiting for our return flight in the hotel I suggested we may just as well wait at the airport and duly ordered a taxi.
2 hours later, still no sign of a taxi the maître de puffed away on a ciggy outside on the street. " I am so sorry, I do apologise on behalf of Italy and Rome, its a xxxxing shambles every time. This is all because of the Communists and the Greens, they have 1 or 2 seats at our Town Council and insure the taxi's go off the road when most needed, ie when is floods/rains heavily, train strikes etc. What ever you do make sure GB NEVER goes for proportional representation"......
Came away with happy thoughts of Rome, but a City stifled by it's council and small time politicians, meanwhile........
Who gives a shit about what Belarus does?
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Sturgeon resigns on 00:03 - Feb 16 with 2025 views
I think it could be argued that we already have extremists in government. Sending migrants to Rwanda, calling for the death penalty, and putting protesters in jail for ten years doesn’t seem very mainstream to me.
There are only two nations that use our version of FPtP in Europe. Us and Belarus.
You are saying that famous beacon of non extremism Belarus has a better system than Norway for avoiding extremists.
Also, people’s definition of extremists is usually flexible to suit their own politics. Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, Che Guevara, and James Connolly famously labelled terrorists and extremists. Now they have statues in Parliament and are printed on T Shirts.
No more from me. Happy to DM though.
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It could be argued but it would be wrong. There aren't any Extremists in this Government, come on, we don't do extremists, its not British! The Rwanda policy is daft but not illegal, its just a stupid way of trying to deal with a serious problem of illegal entrants risking their lives (and paying traffickers a lot of money) to come here, I've not heard anything about the Death Penalty in the real media and most protesters get away with blue murder, has anyone ever actually gone to jail for blocking a road? Let alone for 10 years. The problem with PR is that it does give a voice to extremism. we would have had three BNP MPs on that basis at the turn of the century and three can become many very quickly. It was as another poster points out roundly rejected 10 years ago anyway in a referendum as part of the Coalition agreement. And its why Sweden is suddenly lurching to the right on migration, why Israel is currently in hock to Religious Maniacs etc. etc. And making a comparison to Belarus is fatuous, its not a functioning democracy. But, yes, definitions of Extremism tend to be printed by victors, and one persons Terrorist is another's Freedom Fighter. All three you mention could be argued to have much blood on their hands and Gandhi supported the Japanese in WW2 as well. So, history is complicated but we have the best, oldest and fairest democracy in the world. As Tony Benn once said: "the best test is can I choose who I like to lead me, and can I get rid of them easily". We pass that test as successive Tory PMs can testify..
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Sturgeon resigns on 00:46 - Feb 16 with 2000 views
Like Bazza, JimmyR you are also prone to modifying your posts when it suits your tale. Bazza never said anything about countries in Europe in his original post. He said two countries - England and Belarus. I asked for a link to his twaddle in the belief he could not do so. He hasn't done so thus proving he wasn't telling the truth. When I said his post was codswallop, it really, really was. He knew it and subsequently altered the original post as he often does when confronted. The man appears addicted to posting misleading information to make the UK look bad. He needs an honesty adjustment. Christ knows what kind of political system he wants for England but it most certainly will not be founded on honesty as a principle. Is it just you left wingers in general who can't tell the truth or are you really merelyt Bazza in disguise?
What a load of old flannel.
If I was bazza, why would I contradict my own point — Can you provide a link to prove your own assertions? FYI, all a link proves is that someone else has a computer/phone with internet access.
If someone says something you don’t think is correct why don’t you do a bit of thinking/research about it for yourself and come to your own conclusion? You might just learn something. Otherwise, prepare (if you haven’t already) to be superseded by Google, AI, Chatbot etc
There was a discussion about which countries operate a FPTP voting system and you’ve named QATAR?!?! Jesus wept! Now it’s all a left wing conspiracy, the game is rigged against you, people are lying and their posts have edited, the goal posts have moved — the wambulance will be right over.
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Sturgeon resigns on 12:07 - Feb 16 with 1687 views
If I was bazza, why would I contradict my own point — Can you provide a link to prove your own assertions? FYI, all a link proves is that someone else has a computer/phone with internet access.
If someone says something you don’t think is correct why don’t you do a bit of thinking/research about it for yourself and come to your own conclusion? You might just learn something. Otherwise, prepare (if you haven’t already) to be superseded by Google, AI, Chatbot etc
There was a discussion about which countries operate a FPTP voting system and you’ve named QATAR?!?! Jesus wept! Now it’s all a left wing conspiracy, the game is rigged against you, people are lying and their posts have edited, the goal posts have moved — the wambulance will be right over.
At the end of it all Bazza was telling lies again and he shouldn't. He's here on a QPR chat board and he's trying to denigrate the UK just so his left wing dribble looks better. This is a QPR family and he is being dishonest to people he professes to have a deep footballing conection with. He lies to the people on this board to score political points. In my opinion, that stinks and he should be ashamed.
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Sturgeon resigns on 13:04 - Feb 16 with 1655 views
At the end of it all Bazza was telling lies again and he shouldn't. He's here on a QPR chat board and he's trying to denigrate the UK just so his left wing dribble looks better. This is a QPR family and he is being dishonest to people he professes to have a deep footballing conection with. He lies to the people on this board to score political points. In my opinion, that stinks and he should be ashamed.
okay so it doesn't look like bazza was correct as there are according to this 3 out of the 43 (according to whoever wrote this website at least) countries in europe that use PR. Is that your point? that it's actually 3 and not 2? You couldn't name one when asked, and produced a bullshit list that included Qatar
The fact is (and i didn't need google for this) that most countries in europe do use PR and not FPTP. I'm fairly confident this info would be somewhere in the national curriculum, i was certainly aware of it from an A level in politics
Whether you like it or not - Most countries in Europe don't use FPTP. Your response to this inconvenient fact: 'Codswallop'
At the end of it all, as i said at the start, you talk absolute Sh!te, in a world where thousands of years worth of knowledge can be with you in under a second? But you can't see past the daily hate mail/express or hear it over nigel farage
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