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Do we need any more players ? 00:42 - Jul 14 with 4466 viewsNotLoyal

Not in an ideal world, but for a 46 game championship season.
At the least ...

OK I've changed it.
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Do we need any more players ? on 21:09 - Jul 14 with 1304 viewsCroftyjack

Well judging on last season we obviously need new players..with the players having left its a must...unless you mean more in numbers rather than the quality to make an impact.

I do wonder if the fans mentality has reverted that quickly to the 90s.
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Do we need any more players ? on 22:27 - Jul 14 with 1256 viewsjasper_T

Do we need any more players ? on 21:02 - Jul 14 by BillyChong

Pearlman doesn’t seem to like spending on any sort of signing though


Pearlman isn't in charge of the company chequebook.
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Do we need any more players ? on 23:18 - Jul 14 with 1196 viewsChief

Do we need any more players ? on 11:30 - Jul 14 by jasper_T

Derby got into the playoffs on the back of three loan players.


How much were they paying the parent clubs to loan those 3 high profile players and how much of the wages were Derby covering? Do you see us paying similar prices to loan players of similar standing?

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Do we need any more players ? on 00:17 - Jul 15 with 1173 viewsjasper_T

Do we need any more players ? on 23:18 - Jul 14 by Chief

How much were they paying the parent clubs to loan those 3 high profile players and how much of the wages were Derby covering? Do you see us paying similar prices to loan players of similar standing?


How much did we pay for CCV?
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Do we need any more players ? on 15:22 - Jul 15 with 1003 viewsChief

Do we need any more players ? on 00:17 - Jul 15 by jasper_T

How much did we pay for CCV?


Not as much as Derby paid for Wilson or Mount loans I'm sure

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Do we need any more players ? on 15:39 - Jul 15 with 986 viewsBadlands

Do we need any more players ? on 00:17 - Jul 15 by jasper_T

How much did we pay for CCV?


CCV £20 thousand a week plus bonuses. (£1,040,000 per year)
Undisclosed payment to agent and club.
Spurs, apparently, don't charge a great deal for their loan players (less than Bayern Mucich £7.5 million for Sanches and Chelsea c£6million with stiff compensation if he wasn't playing) but Spurs do threaten to get lawyered up if their man doesn't play.
Sanches was being paid £60,000 a week by Bayern so we would have also been paying roughly the same.

https://www.90min.com/posts/3194921-this-is-how-much-renato-sanches-actually-cos

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Do we need any more players ? on 15:42 - Jul 15 with 983 viewsjack247

Do we need any more players ? on 15:39 - Jul 15 by Badlands

CCV £20 thousand a week plus bonuses. (£1,040,000 per year)
Undisclosed payment to agent and club.
Spurs, apparently, don't charge a great deal for their loan players (less than Bayern Mucich £7.5 million for Sanches and Chelsea c£6million with stiff compensation if he wasn't playing) but Spurs do threaten to get lawyered up if their man doesn't play.
Sanches was being paid £60,000 a week by Bayern so we would have also been paying roughly the same.

https://www.90min.com/posts/3194921-this-is-how-much-renato-sanches-actually-cos


We paid a backup centre back (as he was until Rodon got injured) £20k a week?
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Do we need any more players ? on 16:14 - Jul 15 with 946 views34dfgdf54

Do we need any more players ? on 15:22 - Jul 15 by Chief

Not as much as Derby paid for Wilson or Mount loans I'm sure


Not even in the same ballpark.
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Do we need any more players ? on 17:42 - Jul 15 with 918 viewsjasper_T

Do we need any more players ? on 15:22 - Jul 15 by Chief

Not as much as Derby paid for Wilson or Mount loans I'm sure


Why not? CCV was as established at this level as any of them. Full international player. Mount hadn't even played for England's u21s until recently.
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Do we need any more players ? on 17:45 - Jul 15 with 915 viewsjasper_T

Do we need any more players ? on 15:42 - Jul 15 by jack247

We paid a backup centre back (as he was until Rodon got injured) £20k a week?


And we paid £2m for a backup winger. Last summer had some strange deals.

But at the time we "only had one centreback" as academy players don't count and we got "lucky" that Rodon could kick a football.
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Do we need any more players ? on 18:11 - Jul 15 with 895 viewsChief

Do we need any more players ? on 17:42 - Jul 15 by jasper_T

Why not? CCV was as established at this level as any of them. Full international player. Mount hadn't even played for England's u21s until recently.


Well you'd think that defenders don't fetch as high a loan fee as attacking midfielders let alone Harry Wilson who'd been a revelation for Hull the season and Mount who'd impressed in the Ere Divisie the season previously. CCV had been at Ipswich previously but hadn't made much of an impression.

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Do we need any more players ? on 18:59 - Jul 15 with 858 viewsjasper_T

Do we need any more players ? on 18:11 - Jul 15 by Chief

Well you'd think that defenders don't fetch as high a loan fee as attacking midfielders let alone Harry Wilson who'd been a revelation for Hull the season and Mount who'd impressed in the Ere Divisie the season previously. CCV had been at Ipswich previously but hadn't made much of an impression.


Half a season at Ipswich and half at Sheffield United. Very good reviews from the former especially, not sure how you've concluded that he didn't make an impression. Their fans were very keen to have him back.

Celina had a season in the Eredivisie similar to Mount's the year before he went to Ipswich. And Wilson had only a dozen Championship games to his name. Neither they nor Tomori were big ticket items at that point. Derby weren't spending millions in loan fees, especially with Lampard's friends and family discount.
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Do we need any more players ? on 19:36 - Jul 15 with 829 viewsjack247

Do we need any more players ? on 17:45 - Jul 15 by jasper_T

And we paid £2m for a backup winger. Last summer had some strange deals.

But at the time we "only had one centreback" as academy players don't count and we got "lucky" that Rodon could kick a football.


There’s a massive difference between paying a £2m transfer fee for a player that didn’t work out yet hopefully), but was rated highly by Potter and was expected to feature heavily and increase his value..

And paying half that amount just in wages for a player who was there to plug a gap, we’d never be able to sell and was signed at the end of the window when Rodon had got off to a flyer.

If Badlands figures are correct, £1m in wages is astounding.
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Do we need any more players ? on 20:28 - Jul 15 with 794 views34dfgdf54

Do we need any more players ? on 18:59 - Jul 15 by jasper_T

Half a season at Ipswich and half at Sheffield United. Very good reviews from the former especially, not sure how you've concluded that he didn't make an impression. Their fans were very keen to have him back.

Celina had a season in the Eredivisie similar to Mount's the year before he went to Ipswich. And Wilson had only a dozen Championship games to his name. Neither they nor Tomori were big ticket items at that point. Derby weren't spending millions in loan fees, especially with Lampard's friends and family discount.


Yeah agreed on Celina, that’s why he cost us £4m.

Harry Wilson cost Derby £1m up front and his wages on top, which I imagine were sizeable. You’re probably looking at even more for Mason Mount unless like you said, he had mate rates from Chelsea. As far as I know, Cooper wouldn’t have connections at clubs like that which could get us cut fees, happily be proved wrong.

As it stands there’s no way we would pay that sort of coin on a loan, and there’s not a chance CCV cost us anywhere near that.
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Do we need any more players ? on 20:40 - Jul 15 with 778 viewsjasper_T

Do we need any more players ? on 19:36 - Jul 15 by jack247

There’s a massive difference between paying a £2m transfer fee for a player that didn’t work out yet hopefully), but was rated highly by Potter and was expected to feature heavily and increase his value..

And paying half that amount just in wages for a player who was there to plug a gap, we’d never be able to sell and was signed at the end of the window when Rodon had got off to a flyer.

If Badlands figures are correct, £1m in wages is astounding.


Asoro's on a sizeable wage as well. Can't remember what the figure was that his agent scared Spurs off with, but he'll be costing us a few more million over the length of his contract. Played 45 minutes for the u23s today with Borja. Strikeforce for the season sorted.

Getting CCV in allowed us to ship off Fernandez and Amat on deadline day so it was still a big net wage saving. We made the initial enquiries and probably had a rough deal in place weeks before Rodon made his debut and fans changed their minds on him. Good bit of business in the end, even if ideally Big Joe would have been back in the side for more games before the end of the season.
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Do we need any more players ? on 21:20 - Jul 15 with 749 viewsBadlands

Do we need any more players ? on 19:36 - Jul 15 by jack247

There’s a massive difference between paying a £2m transfer fee for a player that didn’t work out yet hopefully), but was rated highly by Potter and was expected to feature heavily and increase his value..

And paying half that amount just in wages for a player who was there to plug a gap, we’d never be able to sell and was signed at the end of the window when Rodon had got off to a flyer.

If Badlands figures are correct, £1m in wages is astounding.


https://www.spotrac.com/epl/tottenham-hotspur-f.c/cameron-carter-vickers-23049/

(But they do have him playing at Stoke last season.)

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Do we need any more players ? on 21:41 - Jul 15 with 722 viewsJacket

Do we need any more players ? on 21:02 - Jul 14 by BillyChong

Pearlman doesn’t seem to like spending on any sort of signing though


Unless it's the lease of a town center shop he's singing!
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