| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:21 - Feb 10 with 1673 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:18 - Feb 10 by STID2017 |
in an ideal world I'd like to see a super rich football fan (or consortium of fans)take us over who would go back to running us frugally, even if this meant us playing at this level and building the club gradually.
In truth, unless a local consortium takes over which has the future of the club at heart, then I fear we may crash and burn under the current owners.
I don;t think any outside "investors" will touch us with a barge pole (unless the Yanks can take as much as they feel they can and walk away from the club0
This will leave us in a situation like we found ourselves post Petty - hopefully still in the Football League then.
If it happens, it happens.
Worse things happen in life. |
Cool.. the sugar daddy route. We can hope eh?
I will caveat though that my view will change should the Americans see the club as a vehicle to pay dividends. The club is simply not big enough, nor able to bring large enough revenues in to pay dividends AND attract the talent we need even in the Championship. Its one or the other.
My other concern is who we replace HJ with. Thats the biggest decision they will need to come up with and will make or break them imo |  |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:22 - Feb 10 with 1669 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:12 - Feb 10 by jasper_T |
He's had 3-5 years of poor performance by my reckoning. June 2015 is the latest you could argue things were good, but the groundwork for disaster was laid back around Christmas 2013.
Excellent for 90% of 17 years he was not. |
Ok, ok.. 90% is too much.. but you get my point. It was excellent until the Laudrup fiasco!  | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:35 - Feb 10 with 1652 views | STID2017 |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:21 - Feb 10 by PozuelosSideys |
Cool.. the sugar daddy route. We can hope eh?
I will caveat though that my view will change should the Americans see the club as a vehicle to pay dividends. The club is simply not big enough, nor able to bring large enough revenues in to pay dividends AND attract the talent we need even in the Championship. Its one or the other.
My other concern is who we replace HJ with. Thats the biggest decision they will need to come up with and will make or break them imo |
The thing is as well we do not need Pearlman and a DOF / chairman/ etc (by whatever title)
With all the culling that has been done and no doubt will continue, surely Pearlman has to make way to allow them to pay the salary of the next Chairman ?
They may yet surprise us all and allow funds to attract the talent we need to do as well as we have done this season.
I won't hold my breath though |  |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:36 - Feb 10 with 1648 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:35 - Feb 10 by STID2017 |
The thing is as well we do not need Pearlman and a DOF / chairman/ etc (by whatever title)
With all the culling that has been done and no doubt will continue, surely Pearlman has to make way to allow them to pay the salary of the next Chairman ?
They may yet surprise us all and allow funds to attract the talent we need to do as well as we have done this season.
I won't hold my breath though |
Couldnt agree more with this bit mate | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:36 - Feb 10 with 1641 views | AllAgreedThen |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 23:19 - Feb 9 by shenleymun |
Yeah the guys who bought Liverpool must be kicking themselves they didn’t wait till SWANSEA became available |
Innit, people are deluded.
They genuinely reckon an oil tycoon is around the corner that wants to pour a billion in for fun. It’s embarrassing.
These people are essentially kicking up a fuss because the Americans are protecting the clubs financial health and these fans want a more fun and reckless approach.
That’s the crux of it. |  | | |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 03:45 - Feb 10 with 1608 views | Loyal |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:36 - Feb 10 by AllAgreedThen |
Innit, people are deluded.
They genuinely reckon an oil tycoon is around the corner that wants to pour a billion in for fun. It’s embarrassing.
These people are essentially kicking up a fuss because the Americans are protecting the clubs financial health and these fans want a more fun and reckless approach.
That’s the crux of it. |
As I've asked you before, how do you know about Swansea City's financial health ?
If you are basing your point on the say so of the current majority share owners, people who purchased their share holding without notifying the trust or ensuring that those selling did. Or may be the same share holders who stated that youth is the future and then within a few months try to sell on that youth ? Or maybe the same shareholding that tried to sell our club captain to a rival ? Or who dismissed a number of low paid workers at the club but kept on a proxy American on £678,000 a year and a chairman who totally fckd the club over 13 months ago in the transfer window to save his own salary ? And now have sent two more Charlie's to do their bidding. Or maybe the same share holders who never once divulged that 28 other investors were a part of a hedgefund until they were asked and when that fund is analysed they have a track record of investing in companies that could easily be liquidated ?
How can a club that boasted 20,000,000 profit in Sept 2017 then plead poverty 11 months later ? If that's the case ok, BUT Nobody knows because the only accounting on offer are monthly balance sheets not properly ledgered accounts that will easily display or otherwise their ... claims. And display clearly where the money has gone. And this to a shareholder with over a 20% stake. The supporters trust.
Why are people marching ? What's the point eh ? Fck knows it's beyond me, and clearly well beyond you and your intelligence level.
Maybe we can ask your next invention on planet swans, surely we must be on double figures now ? Take a tablet and a day off pal. Your fcking nuts. |  |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 05:16 - Feb 10 with 1589 views | AllAgreedThen |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 03:45 - Feb 10 by Loyal |
As I've asked you before, how do you know about Swansea City's financial health ?
If you are basing your point on the say so of the current majority share owners, people who purchased their share holding without notifying the trust or ensuring that those selling did. Or may be the same share holders who stated that youth is the future and then within a few months try to sell on that youth ? Or maybe the same shareholding that tried to sell our club captain to a rival ? Or who dismissed a number of low paid workers at the club but kept on a proxy American on £678,000 a year and a chairman who totally fckd the club over 13 months ago in the transfer window to save his own salary ? And now have sent two more Charlie's to do their bidding. Or maybe the same share holders who never once divulged that 28 other investors were a part of a hedgefund until they were asked and when that fund is analysed they have a track record of investing in companies that could easily be liquidated ?
How can a club that boasted 20,000,000 profit in Sept 2017 then plead poverty 11 months later ? If that's the case ok, BUT Nobody knows because the only accounting on offer are monthly balance sheets not properly ledgered accounts that will easily display or otherwise their ... claims. And display clearly where the money has gone. And this to a shareholder with over a 20% stake. The supporters trust.
Why are people marching ? What's the point eh ? Fck knows it's beyond me, and clearly well beyond you and your intelligence level.
Maybe we can ask your next invention on planet swans, surely we must be on double figures now ? Take a tablet and a day off pal. Your fcking nuts. |
You sound like you are ranting about the takeover years ago? That’s been done to death, my question is what change are you currently hoping to achieve. Still nobody seems to have any idea.
We haven’t posted a £20m profit. We sold players to service a drop in income. You don’t need to see the accounts to know who much you get in the Championship and how much you get in the Premier League. It just needs a bit of common sense.
No idea what you are on about regarding usernames and tablets. I can only assume you are getting frustrated at not being able to explain the reasoning behind your actions so lashing out and abusing people asking pretty fair and common sense questions? Feel free to explain to this username or any of my future ones. I’ll ask again:-
What is it about the way the club is currently being run that you are hoping protesting will change?
I would say take your time, but this must now be the 11th or 12th page of similar questioning over various threads and not a single person has any sort of idea whatsoever. | | | |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 05:41 - Feb 10 with 1585 views | Cooperman |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:35 - Feb 10 by STID2017 |
The thing is as well we do not need Pearlman and a DOF / chairman/ etc (by whatever title)
With all the culling that has been done and no doubt will continue, surely Pearlman has to make way to allow them to pay the salary of the next Chairman ?
They may yet surprise us all and allow funds to attract the talent we need to do as well as we have done this season.
I won't hold my breath though |
If you believe Pearlman and his press release then this isn’t going to happen. We are back to the need to see audited accounts that prove the financial status.
As for his presence here, he literally is their man on the ground. This is how these things work. Whether we like it or not or are satisfied with levels of success are different matters altogether. |  |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 07:55 - Feb 10 with 1540 views | Swans9 |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 05:41 - Feb 10 by Cooperman |
If you believe Pearlman and his press release then this isn’t going to happen. We are back to the need to see audited accounts that prove the financial status.
As for his presence here, he literally is their man on the ground. This is how these things work. Whether we like it or not or are satisfied with levels of success are different matters altogether. |
Signed. Pearlman we have had net loss on all transfer windows. Comedy hour | | | |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 08:51 - Feb 10 with 1520 views | Dr_Winston |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:02 - Feb 10 by STID2017 |
Surely though the Yanks were in charge when we sold Gylfi and Llorente too late, sanctioned the decisions to re-sign Andre Ayew, Bony, sign the likes of Clucas at inflated prices, then have a fire sale and sell the likes of Fernandez for far less than they were worth ?
In an ideal world we would have carried on being frugal, getting free signing or low cost signings and selling at a profit.
When we stopped doing that, it was the beginning of the end for the previous owners as the debt threatened to become unmanageable.
They compounded this by not using due diligence before selling to new owners ?
What the future brings, and who will buy us - who knows ?
I only hope and pray, as every Swans fan does, that they are better than the current lot |
I've never got the whole "we sold Siggy too late" argument. For once we held out until a buying team paid the full whack a player was worth instead of meekly capitulating at the first offer like we did so often before.
The mess we're in now could have been worse if we'd taken £15m less just to get the deal done like many wanted us to do. |  |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 09:10 - Feb 10 with 1496 views | jack247 |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 08:51 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
I've never got the whole "we sold Siggy too late" argument. For once we held out until a buying team paid the full whack a player was worth instead of meekly capitulating at the first offer like we did so often before.
The mess we're in now could have been worse if we'd taken £15m less just to get the deal done like many wanted us to do. |
It wouldn’t have been £15m less though and if we’d sold him earlier we probably wouldn’t have replaced him with Clucas | | | |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 09:15 - Feb 10 with 1493 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 08:51 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
I've never got the whole "we sold Siggy too late" argument. For once we held out until a buying team paid the full whack a player was worth instead of meekly capitulating at the first offer like we did so often before.
The mess we're in now could have been worse if we'd taken £15m less just to get the deal done like many wanted us to do. |
Yes but wasn’t there a point where their final offer was made (the one we accepted) a few days before we agreed the deal? I’m not sure , maybe my memory is playing tricks on me? |  |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 09:23 - Feb 10 with 1485 views | Dr_Winston |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 09:10 - Feb 10 by jack247 |
It wouldn’t have been £15m less though and if we’d sold him earlier we probably wouldn’t have replaced him with Clucas |
First part is guesswork. It could quite easily have been £15m less if Jenkins had had the final say. And we'd have probably spent the money on Clucas regardless. It's not as if we'd have had anyone better lined up is it? | |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 09:29 - Feb 10 with 1464 views | jack247 |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 09:23 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
First part is guesswork. It could quite easily have been £15m less if Jenkins had had the final say. And we'd have probably spent the money on Clucas regardless. It's not as if we'd have had anyone better lined up is it? |
It’s just a wild guess though, unless you know Everton were offering £15m less early in the window and Jenkins wanted to accept t.
Clucas, like Bony and Ayew, was a panic buy because we were late in the window. | | | |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:11 - Feb 10 with 1437 views | vetchonian |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 00:18 - Feb 10 by STID2017 |
in an ideal world I'd like to see a super rich football fan (or consortium of fans)take us over who would go back to running us frugally, even if this meant us playing at this level and building the club gradually.
In truth, unless a local consortium takes over which has the future of the club at heart, then I fear we may crash and burn under the current owners.
I don;t think any outside "investors" will touch us with a barge pole (unless the Yanks can take as much as they feel they can and walk away from the club0
This will leave us in a situation like we found ourselves post Petty - hopefully still in the Football League then.
If it happens, it happens.
Worse things happen in life. |
Unfortuneately we are where we are.
If such a petition were successful who is waiting in the wings to takeover?
There didn't appear to be a queue the last time
A local consortium wouldn't that be ideal ....remind me didn't we have that not so long ago but they felt they needed to sell up as they felt they were not financially equipped to continue to keep the club successful....what is so different now?
Like many I am not entirely happy with where we are....things have not been helped by how the sale was handled,the "sidelining " of the trust and the lack of transparency from the Yanks. Pearlmans statement made sense ..though I guess every player on our books has their price so wouldn't be surprised to see many leave if the "price is right".
So what is the cunning plan if the petition works....what if the Yanks decide to cut their losses and run by winding up the club....look at Companies House website there is such a complex structure to the clubs ownership and organisation...we could be left with nothing?
That doesn't say I am totally happy with it all but I still have a football club I can support,one which is in the last 16 of the FA cup and a chance of progressing to the final 8 whilst competing at the right end of the championship. 17 years ago most here would have bitten your hand off for that...shame is we were sold a dream enjoyed that dream and then had it turned into a nightmare by the providers of that dream.......the bad taste is still lingering......but at the moment we have no real alternative. | |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:19 - Feb 10 with 1418 views | Dewi1jack |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 23:22 - Feb 9 by jasper_T |
Jack to a King was what brought these owners in.
Don't see the point myself. They're no worse than the last lot. |
Personally I find them better than the last lot were since they binned Loudstrop.
They don't proclaim to be fans/ Swansea till I die.
"Run by the fans for the fans" anyone?
They don't lie to or mislead the Trust (because they don't talk with them)
They've told us and will have to show in the company accounts financial mismanagement from the previous owners.
They've told us a lot of signings were bad/ are still bad for the club
We know where we stand with a hedge fund- they're in it for profit
So, all in all
I trust this lot a fuk of a lot more than Shagger, Dimwit, Beaky, Van Clog, katzen etc etc.
That doesn't say a lot mind! |  |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:21 - Feb 10 with 1414 views | _ |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:11 - Feb 10 by vetchonian |
Unfortuneately we are where we are.
If such a petition were successful who is waiting in the wings to takeover?
There didn't appear to be a queue the last time
A local consortium wouldn't that be ideal ....remind me didn't we have that not so long ago but they felt they needed to sell up as they felt they were not financially equipped to continue to keep the club successful....what is so different now?
Like many I am not entirely happy with where we are....things have not been helped by how the sale was handled,the "sidelining " of the trust and the lack of transparency from the Yanks. Pearlmans statement made sense ..though I guess every player on our books has their price so wouldn't be surprised to see many leave if the "price is right".
So what is the cunning plan if the petition works....what if the Yanks decide to cut their losses and run by winding up the club....look at Companies House website there is such a complex structure to the clubs ownership and organisation...we could be left with nothing?
That doesn't say I am totally happy with it all but I still have a football club I can support,one which is in the last 16 of the FA cup and a chance of progressing to the final 8 whilst competing at the right end of the championship. 17 years ago most here would have bitten your hand off for that...shame is we were sold a dream enjoyed that dream and then had it turned into a nightmare by the providers of that dream.......the bad taste is still lingering......but at the moment we have no real alternative. |
Wow. I am truly shocked.
That is a great post. |  |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:35 - Feb 10 with 1398 views | jasper_T |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:19 - Feb 10 by Dewi1jack |
Personally I find them better than the last lot were since they binned Loudstrop.
They don't proclaim to be fans/ Swansea till I die.
"Run by the fans for the fans" anyone?
They don't lie to or mislead the Trust (because they don't talk with them)
They've told us and will have to show in the company accounts financial mismanagement from the previous owners.
They've told us a lot of signings were bad/ are still bad for the club
We know where we stand with a hedge fund- they're in it for profit
So, all in all
I trust this lot a fuk of a lot more than Shagger, Dimwit, Beaky, Van Clog, katzen etc etc.
That doesn't say a lot mind! |
There's been a lot of gossip about potential dodgy dealings (with no evidence or even sense supporting it usually) but the former directors and their associates had plenty of that going on via printing contracts, production companies, a Scottish "scout" who was employed by a club whose players we signed etc.
It's been about money since the day the club had some, and millions have always leaked out. | | | |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:40 - Feb 10 with 1382 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:21 - Feb 10 by _ |
Wow. I am truly shocked.
That is a great post. |
Yet unfortunately conveniently ignores the effort to push out Fer and Dan James to competitors, which is at odds with said statement. They’re now saying they didn’t want or had no intention of selling James. If that was truly the case the poor kid would not have been there undergoing a medical. Utter f*cking tripe, again. | |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:42 - Feb 10 with 1376 views | jasper_T |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:40 - Feb 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
Yet unfortunately conveniently ignores the effort to push out Fer and Dan James to competitors, which is at odds with said statement. They’re now saying they didn’t want or had no intention of selling James. If that was truly the case the poor kid would not have been there undergoing a medical. Utter f*cking tripe, again. |
"Push out"? We were offered significant sums for these players, one of whom is on big wages and nearing the end of his contract. | | | |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:46 - Feb 10 with 1368 views | _ |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:40 - Feb 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
Yet unfortunately conveniently ignores the effort to push out Fer and Dan James to competitors, which is at odds with said statement. They’re now saying they didn’t want or had no intention of selling James. If that was truly the case the poor kid would not have been there undergoing a medical. Utter f*cking tripe, again. |
No they didn't say that so the only facking utter tripe on display here are your LIES.
You have more a burning desire to be proved right than you do SCFC sorting itself out. And you have the cheek to call someone else narcissistic. | |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:50 - Feb 10 with 1360 views | _ |
'''''Finally, it would be remiss of me if I did not mention the activity surrounding Daniel James leading up to the transfer deadline as, for some, it seemed to belie our stated objectives.
The club did not want to see Daniel go and would only have reluctantly completed the deal - which was influenced by a number of contributing factors - if it was on terms that made sense for us and allowed us to accelerate the restructuring needed to put the club back on a sound financial footing for the future.
Ultimately, the structure of the deal was not in our interests.
We are thrilled that Daniel is still with us and are confident he will continue right where he left off. I am equally sure that the Jack Army will show him their vocal support.'''''' | |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:51 - Feb 10 with 1353 views | StopBeingSilly |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:40 - Feb 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
Yet unfortunately conveniently ignores the effort to push out Fer and Dan James to competitors, which is at odds with said statement. They’re now saying they didn’t want or had no intention of selling James. If that was truly the case the poor kid would not have been there undergoing a medical. Utter f*cking tripe, again. |
No they didn’t. Stop being a troll, if you want to debate then stop with this disingenuous rubbish you churn out constantly because of that chip on your shoulder. Just some friendly advice as you are on a slippery slope as a poster, and you weren’t very high up that slope to start with in fairness. | | | |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:53 - Feb 10 with 1351 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:42 - Feb 10 by jasper_T |
"Push out"? We were offered significant sums for these players, one of whom is on big wages and nearing the end of his contract. |
They said that Montero , Carroll and Bony were players that if they departed wouldn’t have a significant affect on the team. Players like Fer and James departure would have significantly weakened the playing squad. Can’t you recognize their words and actions had a certain disparity about them? | |
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| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:55 - Feb 10 with 1343 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Petition To Get The Current Owners Out on 10:50 - Feb 10 by _ |
'''''Finally, it would be remiss of me if I did not mention the activity surrounding Daniel James leading up to the transfer deadline as, for some, it seemed to belie our stated objectives.
The club did not want to see Daniel go and would only have reluctantly completed the deal - which was influenced by a number of contributing factors - if it was on terms that made sense for us and allowed us to accelerate the restructuring needed to put the club back on a sound financial footing for the future.
Ultimately, the structure of the deal was not in our interests.
We are thrilled that Daniel is still with us and are confident he will continue right where he left off. I am equally sure that the Jack Army will show him their vocal support.'''''' |
So thrilled they allowed him to go to Leeds to have a medical. Reluctantly mind. Oh dear  | |
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