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NHS Pay Rises 19:36 - Mar 21 with 9270 viewsCooperman

About time! If the unions secure the deal then 100,000 staff will instantly earn more than the living wage. This can only work wonders for staff morale and retention as well as attracting new blood into a job sector that is losing employees hand over fist. The rises don’t go right to the top; I hope that there are some tough performance related pay targets for higher NHS management.



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NHS Pay Rises on 19:40 - Mar 21 with 7023 viewsAguycalledJack

Pay rise is great, but isn’t it the case that to get the pay rise the staff are then losing holiday days?
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NHS Pay Rises on 19:45 - Mar 21 with 7011 viewsCooperman

NHS Pay Rises on 19:40 - Mar 21 by AguycalledJack

Pay rise is great, but isn’t it the case that to get the pay rise the staff are then losing holiday days?


I haven’t seen that quoted anywhere.

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NHS Pay Rises on 19:57 - Mar 21 with 6985 viewsJackfath

Do the proposed rises in pay apply to those who work for the NHS in Wales?

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NHS Pay Rises on 20:04 - Mar 21 with 6976 viewsCooperman

NHS Pay Rises on 19:57 - Mar 21 by Jackfath

Do the proposed rises in pay apply to those who work for the NHS in Wales?


NHS England rises are subject to unions securing the vote with member.

The Health Secretary for Wales has committed to secure the same deal for NHS Wales workers.

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NHS Pay Rises on 20:14 - Mar 21 with 6958 viewsAguycalledJack

NHS Pay Rises on 19:45 - Mar 21 by Cooperman

I haven’t seen that quoted anywhere.


Think they have to forgo 1 days holiday to secure it.
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NHS Pay Rises on 20:21 - Mar 21 with 6942 viewsJackfath

Hopefully all other public sector workers will be treated similarly in the near future. Goodness knows they all deserve it after years of austerity.

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NHS Pay Rises on 20:40 - Mar 21 with 6920 viewsCountyJim

NHS Pay Rises on 20:14 - Mar 21 by AguycalledJack

Think they have to forgo 1 days holiday to secure it.


That's been dropped after unions said they would start the process of industrial action
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NHS Pay Rises on 20:41 - Mar 21 with 6915 viewsNeathJack

NHS Pay Rises on 20:21 - Mar 21 by Jackfath

Hopefully all other public sector workers will be treated similarly in the near future. Goodness knows they all deserve it after years of austerity.


Local council workers are getting 2%. Another real terms pay cut.
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NHS Pay Rises on 21:17 - Mar 21 with 6882 viewsBanosswan

Ir35 still ruining locums though.
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NHS Pay Rises on 21:36 - Mar 21 with 6864 viewsjack_lord

NHS Pay Rises on 20:21 - Mar 21 by Jackfath

Hopefully all other public sector workers will be treated similarly in the near future. Goodness knows they all deserve it after years of austerity.


While I agree, please expand it to the private sector workers who have suffered, sometimes far more more.

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NHS Pay Rises on 07:37 - Mar 22 with 6784 viewsCooperman

NHS Pay Rises on 21:36 - Mar 21 by jack_lord

While I agree, please expand it to the private sector workers who have suffered, sometimes far more more.


I am private sector but I certainly don’t begrudge NHS workers this rise.

I’m in agreement with Fathy that this needs to increase in scope to other public sector areas however NHS was top of the priority list IMO.

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NHS Pay Rises on 09:35 - Mar 22 with 6736 viewswestwalesed

NHS Pay Rises on 07:37 - Mar 22 by Cooperman

I am private sector but I certainly don’t begrudge NHS workers this rise.

I’m in agreement with Fathy that this needs to increase in scope to other public sector areas however NHS was top of the priority list IMO.


And at a time when the economy has for a number of years showed sustained, albeit slow growth. I sometimes think people forget how close the country was to having its banking sector collapse and I just hope that people remember that short-termism in terms of the economy hurts the poorest most in the long run. On a side note its disgraceful that the GMB are recommending to members that they reject the deal. Clearly for political reasons. To give the lowest paid up to 29% is astonishing and should be rightly applauded. Welsh Government getting £210million in extra funding from Westminster to do the same in Wales.

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NHS Pay Rises on 12:14 - Mar 22 with 6688 viewsEbo

What they fail to highlight is that the pay rise will happen over 3 years at 2% a year.

Current inflation is 3% a year meaning the NHS workers will yet again get another fixed rate sub-inflation pay rise.

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NHS Pay Rises on 12:25 - Mar 22 with 6678 viewsLohengrin

NHS Pay Rises on 12:14 - Mar 22 by Ebo

What they fail to highlight is that the pay rise will happen over 3 years at 2% a year.

Current inflation is 3% a year meaning the NHS workers will yet again get another fixed rate sub-inflation pay rise.


Notice the timing of the announcement too? The local elections are just around the corner, it gives the Conservatives a month to get their leaflets printed and delivered. ‘Look what we’ve done!’

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NHS Pay Rises on 14:26 - Mar 22 with 6632 viewsEbo

NHS Pay Rises on 12:25 - Mar 22 by Lohengrin

Notice the timing of the announcement too? The local elections are just around the corner, it gives the Conservatives a month to get their leaflets printed and delivered. ‘Look what we’ve done!’

I’m off on the sick. I just spend all day, every day shouting ‘wa**kers!’ at the wireless.


I was just about to add that Loh and you know what? Once this is done (the elections) it will be business as usual.

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NHS Pay Rises on 16:57 - Mar 22 with 6594 viewsPrivate_Partz

NHS Pay Rises on 09:35 - Mar 22 by westwalesed

And at a time when the economy has for a number of years showed sustained, albeit slow growth. I sometimes think people forget how close the country was to having its banking sector collapse and I just hope that people remember that short-termism in terms of the economy hurts the poorest most in the long run. On a side note its disgraceful that the GMB are recommending to members that they reject the deal. Clearly for political reasons. To give the lowest paid up to 29% is astonishing and should be rightly applauded. Welsh Government getting £210million in extra funding from Westminster to do the same in Wales.


Wow that post is straight out of Tory HQ. ;-)
So you think that the Country is now in such a fine state as a result of austerity that the Tories can start investing in the Public Sector? Notwithstanding Brexit is round the corner with 10s of billions being stashed aside to offset the effect of that.?
IMHO it is far more likely that May is on the run and desperately trying to embrace the Labour Party manifesto in a vain hope to hang on to power.
Long may it continue. Shows HM Opposition is doing a fine job.

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NHS Pay Rises on 16:59 - Mar 22 with 6592 viewsJack_Meoff

NHS Pay Rises on 12:25 - Mar 22 by Lohengrin

Notice the timing of the announcement too? The local elections are just around the corner, it gives the Conservatives a month to get their leaflets printed and delivered. ‘Look what we’ve done!’

I’m off on the sick. I just spend all day, every day shouting ‘wa**kers!’ at the wireless.


It sounds like you have a nasty bout of Toryettes. I am also an long term sufferer.

The bad news is that there is no cure, but the good news is that after a few beers you shout even louder and care even less about doing so...


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NHS Pay Rises on 19:07 - Mar 22 with 6542 viewsjack_lord

NHS Pay Rises on 07:37 - Mar 22 by Cooperman

I am private sector but I certainly don’t begrudge NHS workers this rise.

I’m in agreement with Fathy that this needs to increase in scope to other public sector areas however NHS was top of the priority list IMO.


What I said was include private sector workers in the push for getting a pay rise too.

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NHS Pay Rises on 19:15 - Mar 22 with 6537 viewstrampie

NHS Pay Rises on 19:07 - Mar 22 by jack_lord

What I said was include private sector workers in the push for getting a pay rise too.


Are you suggesting everybody gets a pay rise then ?

Squeeze the rich till the pips squeak and redistribute wealth, all the wealth is in the hands of the top few when the many have Porthcawl.

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NHS Pay Rises on 19:22 - Mar 22 with 6525 viewstrampie

NHS Pay Rises on 07:37 - Mar 22 by Cooperman

I am private sector but I certainly don’t begrudge NHS workers this rise.

I’m in agreement with Fathy that this needs to increase in scope to other public sector areas however NHS was top of the priority list IMO.




Wealth needs to be redistributed, successful companies and certain groups of individuals need to pay a lot more tax.

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NHS Pay Rises on 19:33 - Mar 22 with 6506 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

NHS Pay Rises on 19:22 - Mar 22 by trampie



Wealth needs to be redistributed, successful companies and certain groups of individuals need to pay a lot more tax.


Always good to get the under 10s involved. There was a bloke on Radio 5 recently saying his kids were so upset about Bexit they would not go to school.
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NHS Pay Rises on 19:39 - Mar 22 with 6492 viewstrampie

NHS Pay Rises on 19:33 - Mar 22 by JACKMANANDBOY

Always good to get the under 10s involved. There was a bloke on Radio 5 recently saying his kids were so upset about Bexit they would not go to school.
Pleased that my dad read children's bedtime stories to me when I was 3 rather than explain the consequences of nuclear war.


Teachers learnt that trick years ago, go/threaten to go on strike and deprive young children of an education, some say its a way of blackmailing the Government and society.
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NHS Pay Rises on 19:48 - Mar 22 with 6476 viewslondonlisa2001

NHS Pay Rises on 19:22 - Mar 22 by trampie



Wealth needs to be redistributed, successful companies and certain groups of individuals need to pay a lot more tax.


If that's Dulwich, any redistribution of wealth will end up hitting their parents.

Tell me Trampie, which do you think more important:

- the headline tax rate
- the tax actually collected
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NHS Pay Rises on 19:49 - Mar 22 with 6475 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

NHS Pay Rises on 19:39 - Mar 22 by trampie

Teachers learnt that trick years ago, go/threaten to go on strike and deprive young children of an education, some say its a way of blackmailing the Government and society.
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I'm concerned about anyone who involves young children in political action.

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NHS Pay Rises on 19:51 - Mar 22 with 6473 viewslondonlisa2001

NHS Pay Rises on 19:49 - Mar 22 by JACKMANANDBOY

I'm concerned about anyone who involves young children in political action.


Absolutely agree.
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