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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread 22:28 - Jan 12 with 43336 viewsjackharris

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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 10:34 - Jan 14 with 1901 viewsperchrockjack

If we wanted .,really wanted to stay up, Alladyce is exactly the sort of manager we should have employed.

He will have motivate, organise, bring in players who do the basics well; no more.

Defoe is a well paid for a reason. He scores goals wherever he goes.

HE WILL ALSO have players who can score t a set piece.


Not pretty but he WILL get results as he has always done.


Like him or not, he s a tough opponent

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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 11:38 - Jan 14 with 1798 viewsGreatBritton

The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 23:11 - Jan 13 by lovejuicejack

Geordies


Mackems, not Geordies
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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 11:43 - Jan 14 with 1788 viewsDr_Winston

The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 08:54 - Jan 14 by RevJames

Are the players 'programmed' to do this in training?

Are they allowed to take responsibility for their own actions and do the 'right thing' when it is so obvious to everyone else in the stadium,or is it contrary to the 'Swansea way' to play everything out from the back?

When we're pressed high, we just don't seem to have an 'out'ball from the back like we used to or a Plan B to be more direct.

I fear our current style of football might just not be suited for this relegation scrap


The problem with the out ball is that our defenders are less comfortable on the ball as in previous years.

At the height of our counterattacking glory under Laudrup a lot of our best moves started with Flores carrying the ball almost into midfield, relying on runners ahead of him using available space. Regardless of his other faults (which are mostly exaggerated) , he was extremely good on the ball. Ash too improved massively over this period. We'd transition from defence to attack in seconds.

We just don't use or don't have that capability any more. By the time we do get the ball past the halfway line opposing teams have had plenty of time to reorganise themselves.

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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 11:57 - Jan 14 with 1748 viewsVetchitBack

The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 11:38 - Jan 14 by GreatBritton

Mackems, not Geordies


Nah definitely Geordies trust me

The orthodox are always orthodox, regardless of the orthodoxy.

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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 12:08 - Jan 14 with 1725 viewsairedale

The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 22:42 - Jan 13 by RevJames

From where I was sitting, the back four and Fab always seem to be an accident waiting to happen. Nervy under pressure and poor decision making.

Conditions didn't help but how many times do we have to play ourselves into a hole before understanding that Row Z is often the best option?

Less said about the officials the better but we really don't help ourselves.

Will be watching Watford from behind the sofa.


You won't get it through the turnstile mun.
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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 12:10 - Jan 14 with 1721 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 23:58 - Jan 13 by The_undecided

Just watched MOTD and using their technology to get a better look at the offside calls only the first goal was iffy, the penalty was clearly not a pen and the sending off clearly a yellow at worst.
Defoe's second and third looking at them were almost perfectly timed and even in slow motion are probably just on or in line, in real time very hard for linesman to call so it looks like he gave the striker the benefit, you have to play the whistle. It was the red card that changed the game as the pen and Sunderland first goal kind of ruled each other out.


You obviously listened to that idiot on MOTD who said it wasn't a Penalty because there "was no contact".
Which was patently wrong, ok there was no trip up or foot or leg contact, but Wes Brown hit Ayew in the back with his chest while he was off balance and Ayew made the most of it.
But to say there was "no contact" was cr@p.

I also still haven't got the off side rule clear in my head, when Rangel was offside the ball came off the defender blocking the shot and looped back to the goal keeper, I thought if a defender had touched the ball before the goal keeper it wasn't offside.
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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 12:15 - Jan 14 with 1708 viewsjasper_T

A chest to back collision isn't a foul except in extreme, comical circumstances.
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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 12:39 - Jan 14 with 1645 viewsploppy

The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 12:10 - Jan 14 by A_Fans_Dad

You obviously listened to that idiot on MOTD who said it wasn't a Penalty because there "was no contact".
Which was patently wrong, ok there was no trip up or foot or leg contact, but Wes Brown hit Ayew in the back with his chest while he was off balance and Ayew made the most of it.
But to say there was "no contact" was cr@p.

I also still haven't got the off side rule clear in my head, when Rangel was offside the ball came off the defender blocking the shot and looped back to the goal keeper, I thought if a defender had touched the ball before the goal keeper it wasn't offside.


A deflection by a defender doesn't play an attacker onside. It has to be a deliberate action by the defender. So Rangel was correctly offside.
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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 13:14 - Jan 14 with 1612 viewsA_Fans_Dad

The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 12:39 - Jan 14 by ploppy

A deflection by a defender doesn't play an attacker onside. It has to be a deliberate action by the defender. So Rangel was correctly offside.


Thanks for the clarification.
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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 14:53 - Jan 14 with 1521 viewsThe_undecided

Here's a YouTube link to MOTD


26.36 and 26.58 mins are the big calls for the offside being discussed with shearer using the slow motion and camera technology, it is very close but marginally onside.
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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 15:58 - Jan 14 with 1444 viewsMorfa_Same

The law is much simpler than people think. Any touch by the opposition makes no difference at all, whether intentional or otherwise. All that matters is where a player is standing when his own teammates touch the ball.

This is what it says on the FIFA website:

A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
involved in active play by:
- interfering with play or
- interfering with an opponent or
- gaining an advantage by being in that position
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The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 22:55 - Jan 14 with 1318 viewsRevJames

The Official Swansea City v Sunderland FC Matchday/night Thread on 12:08 - Jan 14 by airedale

You won't get it through the turnstile mun.


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