| Palestine 14:20 - Jul 11 with 57253 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
When are Israel going to stop bombing the f@k out of Palestine murdering innocent children .
No condemnation from our government .
It must be to do with the multi millions of pounds given to the government for weapons by the dreadful zionists in charge of their state . |  |
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| Palestine on 16:49 - Jul 25 with 1553 views | Aquinas |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2705042/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-What-Hamas-
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Explain the difference.
Paramilitaries fire a missile which brings down a civilian airliner over Ukraine.
They are widely condemned as murderous gangsters and war criminals who must be hunted down and brought to justice.
Another ruthless gang of paramilitaries fire missiles at a civilian airport in Israel.
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Thousands of protesters march through Whitehall in central London, to call for an end to Israeli military action in Gaza
Thousands of protesters march through Whitehall in central London, to call for an end to Israeli military action in Gaza
They are hailed as heroic ‘resistance fighters’ and receive widespread support in the West.
Let’s just imagine, for a moment, that a rocket fired from Gaza had hit a plane coming in to land at Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv.
What if a British Airways jet had been brought down over Israel, with a similar loss of life to the 298 people who perished on Malaysian flight MH17?
Would it still be considered appropriate to hold yet another march through London this weekend, waving banners proclaiming ‘We are all Hamas now’?
Protestors take to the streets outside London's Israeli Embassy
At least 17 people climbed on top of the London bus during a protest in London earlier this month
At least 17 people climbed on top of the London bus during a protest in London earlier this month
Look, let me make one thing absolutely clear: what’s happening in Gaza is a terrible tragedy, especially the deaths of non-combatants. No one with a shred of humanity can fail to be disturbed by the plight of innocent children caught in the crossfire.
No, what depresses me is the one-sided apportioning of blame, the idea that Israel is the ‘aggressor’ in this conflict.
Everyone says they want an immediate ceasefire. Israel wants a ceasefire. But that will only occur when Hamas stops using Gaza as a launchpad to fire thousands of rockets aimed deliberately at killing Israeli civilians. Hamas has made it clear that isn’t going to happen.
Some people seem to think that because Israel has pretty effective air defences, it should absorb the pain and not retaliate.
Israel shelters behind sophisticated technology. Hamas hides behind women and children, in schools, hospitals and mosques.
Yet, as far as its useful idiots in Britain and Europe are concerned, Israel is the only one guilty of ‘war crimes’, no matter how many precautions it takes to avoid innocent deaths.
Hamas has no regard for human life, on either side. Every death is a propaganda victory, amplified by gullible sympathisers in the Western media.
But there is rarely any condemnation of this cynical campaign of terror, or of its oil-rich sponsors who want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
Is Iran going to stop supplying weapons to Hamas? No. Is Qatar going to stop bankrolling terrorism? What do you think?
Crowds lined the main road in Kensington High Street, preventing any vehicles from using the road
Crowds lined the main road in Kensington High Street, preventing any vehicles from using the road
So where are the demonstrations against Iran and Qatar? Come to that, where are the marches against Islamist slaughter in Syria and kidnapped schoolgirls in Africa?
Or, for that matter, the mass protests against Russia’s annexation of Crimea or Putin’s sponsorship of terrorism in Ukraine?
Precisely.
The Stop The War crowd are myopically selective in their indignation.
They’ll overlook all manner of atrocities in the Muslim world and in the former Soviet bloc, but become incandescent with fury when Israel exercises its inalienable right to self-defence.
Underlying all this is a nasty streak of anti-semitism, the unholy alliance between the self-styled ‘liberal’ Left and stone-age Muslim headbangers, which I exposed in a Channel 4 documentary a few years ago.
Fortunately, it hasn’t manifested itself as violently in this country as it has on the Continent, where it is never far from the surface – especially in France.
The Israeli ambassador in Berlin has compared the level of anti-Semitism to 1938.
Despite the traffic jams and large crowds, police said the protest was largely peaceful as a whole
Despite the traffic jams and large crowds, police said the protest was largely peaceful as a whole
But indiscriminate anti-Jewish sentiment is rising in Britain.
Security has been stepped up at Jewish schools and synagogues.
A shop in Manchester, for instance, is targeted by pro-Hamas demonstrators every day because it sells some goods made in Israel.
Again, though, this is knee-jerk stuff. There’s no consistency.
Protesters call for a boycott of Israel, but they’re not prepared to throw away their mobile phones, laptops and satellite set-top boxes which would be useless without Israeli technology.
They’re like the ‘anti-globalisation’ crowd, kitted out in Nike trainers, sipping skinny lattes from Starbucks and organising riots on iPhones. The absurd contradictions are lost on them.
Most of this is mindless posturing, unthinking exhibitionism, part of the modern curse of everyone living in their own movie. They all want to be in on the act, complete with fetching intifada scarf as fashion accessory.
There’s no calm analysis, no sober examination of the facts, just an incontinent outpouring of sentiment and emotion.
They can twist anything to suit their warped world view. We’ve even had a sitting Lib Dem MP, David Ward, announcing that he’d be firing rockets if he lived in Gaza.
Perhaps he’d like to do us all a favour and move there.
I keep wondering if we could ever win a conventional war these days.
You can just imagine the ‘We Are All Hamas Now’ crowd in 1944, marching on Downing Street.
Even as the doodlebugs were raining down on London, they’d be screaming that the D-Day invasion was ‘a disproportionate use of force’, wringing their hands over civilian casualties in Berlin and demanding that Churchill was prosecuted for war crimes.
Yet among the gormless rent-a-mob, there are dangerous people who wish not just Israel but all of us serious harm.
They’re the same hardliners who cheered as the planes hit the Twin Towers, who justified the London Transport bombings and want to impose Sharia law in Britain.
Israel is in the frontline of global jihad, but we’re on the list, too.
It’s all very well to lament that Israel is losing the battle for world opinion.
But Israel is fighting a real war, not a propaganda war, one that it can’t afford to lose.
And what if a rocket fired at Ben Gurion airport had hit a British Airways plane, killing all the passengers on board?
Does anyone seriously believe that Hamas would have genuinely regretted the innocent loss of civilian life, despite the widespread support it receives in Britain?
Of course not. We are all infidels now. |  | | |
| Palestine on 18:24 - Jul 25 with 1528 views | Cygnus |
One of the daftest replies of course Hamas is going to fight back any country would after being invaded.
They don t have much to fight back with
After all this death do you think the Palestinians are ready for peace?no way and now it s kicked off in the West Bank also.
As for the tunnels that's just an excuse to carry on the blood shed...you have no idea mate |  | | |
| Palestine on 19:02 - Jul 25 with 1506 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Palestine on 18:24 - Jul 25 by Cygnus |
One of the daftest replies of course Hamas is going to fight back any country would after being invaded.
They don t have much to fight back with
After all this death do you think the Palestinians are ready for peace?no way and now it s kicked off in the West Bank also.
As for the tunnels that's just an excuse to carry on the blood shed...you have no idea mate |
The oppressed will always fight back it's only natural .
You would
He would
I would
And this murdering of innocent men ,women & children will only stir the oppressed more .
Would you revenge your family being wiped out ? | |
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| Palestine on 19:30 - Jul 25 with 1497 views | exiledclaseboy |
Ah, Richard Littlejohn has spoken. Agrees entirely with Perchie's view. Figures. |  |
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| Palestine on 19:53 - Jul 25 with 1483 views | Uxbridge |
| Palestine on 19:30 - Jul 25 by exiledclaseboy |
Ah, Richard Littlejohn has spoken. Agrees entirely with Perchie's view. Figures. |
Phew. I was worried I was wrong in thinking Israel are rather acting the arse at the moment. Luckily my view has now been confirmed. |  |
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| Palestine on 19:54 - Jul 25 with 1482 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Palestine on 19:53 - Jul 25 by Uxbridge |
Phew. I was worried I was wrong in thinking Israel are rather acting the arse at the moment. Luckily my view has now been confirmed. |
It's always good to have vindication. | |
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| Palestine on 20:05 - Jul 25 with 1472 views | Uxbridge |
| Palestine on 19:54 - Jul 25 by exiledclaseboy |
It's always good to have vindication. |
I had validation when I saw you agreed. I'd worry if that wasn't the case  | |
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| Palestine on 20:08 - Jul 25 with 1469 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Palestine on 20:05 - Jul 25 by Uxbridge |
I had validation when I saw you agreed. I'd worry if that wasn't the case |
We're going to get such a talking to when Perchie is next on. | |
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| Palestine on 20:27 - Jul 25 with 1456 views | Uxbridge |
| Palestine on 20:08 - Jul 25 by exiledclaseboy |
We're going to get such a talking to when Perchie is next on. |
The good news is that I won't be able to understand it anyway. | |
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| Palestine on 20:35 - Jul 25 with 1445 views | Darran |
Scouce won't be on tonight he's gone to see Tom Jones. |  |
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| Palestine on 21:06 - Jul 25 with 1424 views | felixstowe_jack |
As soon as the terrorist stop firing rockets at them. | |
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| Palestine on 21:18 - Jul 25 with 1416 views | Highjack |
I haven't read all of this thread so this might have been covered before but surely of all the peoples in the world, Israeli's should know what it's like to be systematically murdered and downtrodden whilst completely defenceless. So how the hell can they look at themselves in the mirror with all this going on? |  |
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| Palestine on 00:37 - Jul 26 with 1370 views | longlostjack |
| Palestine on 21:18 - Jul 25 by Highjack |
I haven't read all of this thread so this might have been covered before but surely of all the peoples in the world, Israeli's should know what it's like to be systematically murdered and downtrodden whilst completely defenceless. So how the hell can they look at themselves in the mirror with all this going on? |
Exactly. The only way I can understand what Israel is doing at the moment it is that there must be some collective guilt complex that they didn't do enough to stop the holocaust and have to be seen to be strong. It really is a tragedy and ultimately they 'll be seen to be like the Boers - just plain wrong. |  |
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| Palestine on 15:07 - Jul 26 with 1313 views | exiledclaseboy |
Palestinian death toll in Gaza now more than 1,000. Hardly any Israelis killed by the Hamas rockets.
Proportionate?
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| Palestine on 15:56 - Jul 26 with 1306 views | Cygnus |
| Palestine on 15:07 - Jul 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Palestinian death toll in Gaza now more than 1,000. Hardly any Israelis killed by the Hamas rockets.
Proportionate?
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I wonder how the world would react if it was the other way round.
You can guarantee NATO and the Yanks would be on the ground by now... | | | |
| Palestine on 16:53 - Jul 26 with 1295 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Palestine on 15:56 - Jul 26 by Cygnus |
I wonder how the world would react if it was the other way round.
You can guarantee NATO and the Yanks would be on the ground by now... |
1000 Israelis dead .
They would have nuked who ever did it by now .
They really don't give a f@@k . | |
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| Palestine on 17:25 - Jul 26 with 1282 views | Uxbridge |
| Palestine on 15:07 - Jul 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Palestinian death toll in Gaza now more than 1,000. Hardly any Israelis killed by the Hamas rockets.
Proportionate?
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Since when did we ever count the victims? | |
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| Palestine on 18:12 - Jul 26 with 1266 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Palestine on 17:25 - Jul 26 by Uxbridge |
Since when did we ever count the victims? |
Seems to depend who the victims are.
Just saw this pic with the caption "They went to check their house and found this"
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| Palestine on 18:20 - Jul 26 with 1255 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
How many of the 1000 Palestinians were Hamas terrorists ?
1000 of them were the IDF would say . | |
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| Palestine on 22:25 - Jul 26 with 1227 views | longlostjack |
| Palestine on 18:20 - Jul 26 by oh_tommy_tommy |
How many of the 1000 Palestinians were Hamas terrorists ?
1000 of them were the IDF would say . |
Ther'll be a ceasefire eventually and the media will move on. There were horrible attrocities in Sri Lanka too - but who remembers? The cricket goes on. We live in a sick world. | |
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| Palestine on 22:35 - Jul 26 with 1221 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
There will never be a cease fire now Hamas will keep on untill Israel wipes them & gaza's civilians out .districts have been wiped out ,the videos & pictures from there are terrible . | |
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| Palestine on 22:38 - Jul 26 with 1217 views | exiledclaseboy |
Why would they? As I said the other day, Israel's actions are only ensuring the next generation of hamas fighters. Neither Israel or Hamas are particularly interested in this stopping. Yet all the time the genocide in Gaza at the hands of Israel continues. | |
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| Palestine on 22:41 - Jul 26 with 1214 views | Darran |
| Palestine on 22:38 - Jul 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Why would they? As I said the other day, Israel's actions are only ensuring the next generation of hamas fighters. Neither Israel or Hamas are particularly interested in this stopping. Yet all the time the genocide in Gaza at the hands of Israel continues. |
Andrew I wholeheartedly agree with your comments but for the sake of their citizens they should down tools,its so sad. | |
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