| dzeko jurt did a barton 21:18 - Jan 3 with 2501 views | ultramagnetic |
ref saw and he didnt send him off |  | | |  |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:19 - Jan 3 with 2494 views | hamptonhillhoop |
Yes. Right in front of the ref, more head movement than Barton. And the ref sensibly told them to calm down |  | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:20 - Jan 3 with 2489 views | BazWoT |
Saw that, ref didn't even speak to him, funny that. |  |
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:21 - Jan 3 with 2478 views | BazWoT |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:20 - Jan 3 by BazWoT |
Saw that, ref didn't even speak to him, funny that. |
Alan Smith said saw someone sent off for that!!! | |
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:23 - Jan 3 with 2464 views | wombat |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:21 - Jan 3 by BazWoT |
Alan Smith said saw someone sent off for that!!! |
You would hope that Barton can use that as evidence in his defence although knowing the Fa I doubt it very much |  |
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:23 - Jan 3 with 2463 views | WeAreQPR12 |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:21 - Jan 3 by BazWoT |
Alan Smith said saw someone sent off for that!!! |
I think the peck on the forehead made the ref keep his cards in his pocket.
3-1 sunderland sack oneill the little freaky runt | | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:27 - Jan 3 with 2446 views | ultramagnetic |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:23 - Jan 3 by WeAreQPR12 |
I think the peck on the forehead made the ref keep his cards in his pocket.
3-1 sunderland sack oneill the little freaky runt |
oneil will hit a bad patch like he always did at villa from march onwards | | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:28 - Jan 3 with 2438 views | ultramagnetic |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:23 - Jan 3 by WeAreQPR12 |
I think the peck on the forehead made the ref keep his cards in his pocket.
3-1 sunderland sack oneill the little freaky runt |
oneil will hit a bad patch like he always did at villa from march onwards | | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:28 - Jan 3 with 2434 views | Northernr |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:27 - Jan 3 by ultramagnetic |
oneil will hit a bad patch like he always did at villa from march onwards |
You're right, Villa have done so much better without him haven't they?
Just like Leicester have done so much better since he left.
And Wycombe.
And Celtic. |  | | |
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:29 - Jan 3 with 2431 views | adhoc_qpr |
Just confirms what we all knew, shocking decision that only seems to happen to small clubs and us in particular! Annoying that most fans just assume it's warnock and Barton talking rubbish due to their reps.
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:29 - Jan 3 with 2427 views | ultramagnetic |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:23 - Jan 3 by WeAreQPR12 |
I think the peck on the forehead made the ref keep his cards in his pocket.
3-1 sunderland sack oneill the little freaky runt |
oneil will hit a bad patch like he always did at villa from march onwards | | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:30 - Jan 3 with 2419 views | WeAreQPR12 |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:28 - Jan 3 by Northernr |
You're right, Villa have done so much better without him haven't they?
Just like Leicester have done so much better since he left.
And Wycombe.
And Celtic. |
Clive he is average and best although they just went 1-4 up | | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:30 - Jan 3 with 2419 views | WatfordR |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:28 - Jan 3 by Northernr |
You're right, Villa have done so much better without him haven't they?
Just like Leicester have done so much better since he left.
And Wycombe.
And Celtic. |
You're just being specific now
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:36 - Jan 3 with 2389 views | QPR1882 |
Difference between our game and tonight was tonight the ref saw what happened and did not just guess. |  | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:37 - Jan 3 with 2383 views | ultramagnetic |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:28 - Jan 3 by Northernr |
You're right, Villa have done so much better without him haven't they?
Just like Leicester have done so much better since he left.
And Wycombe.
And Celtic. |
no just stating his annual bad patch, was he never won a game in march at villa lost them all i think | | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:39 - Jan 3 with 2370 views | BazWoT |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:36 - Jan 3 by QPR1882 |
Difference between our game and tonight was tonight the ref saw what happened and did not just guess. |
Use it as evidence in the appeal, consistency etc blah blah. | |
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:46 - Jan 3 with 2346 views | Northernr |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:30 - Jan 3 by WeAreQPR12 |
Clive he is average and best although they just went 1-4 up |
If he's average why did all four clubs achieve more with him than they have with anybody else in the last 25 years? Fcking superb manager, always has been.
Wycombe - two promotions and FA trophy wins, almost made it three by taking them into the First Division. Since he left they've yo-yod between league one and two.
Leicester - two League Cup wins, European football and consecutive top ten finishes in the Premiership. Won nothing since, got relegated and now literally cannot buy their way back into the top flight.
Villa - cup final appearance, European football and consecutive sixth placed finishes. Nothing anywhere close to that since he left, or for many years before he arrived.
Celtic - smashed Rangers dominance with league and cup successes that Strachan, Mowbray and Lennon have been unable to match since. Took a Scottish team to a European cup final which is fcking miraculous.
And this is average? | | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:50 - Jan 3 with 2321 views | Charlie1 |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:30 - Jan 3 by WeAreQPR12 |
Clive he is average and best although they just went 1-4 up |
I'd take some of that 'average' please.... |  |
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 22:07 - Jan 3 with 2286 views | BazWoT |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:50 - Jan 3 by Charlie1 |
I'd take some of that 'average' please.... |
Nah, don't need another sexagenarian. | |
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 01:24 - Jan 4 with 2188 views | GetMeRangers |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:46 - Jan 3 by Northernr |
If he's average why did all four clubs achieve more with him than they have with anybody else in the last 25 years? Fcking superb manager, always has been.
Wycombe - two promotions and FA trophy wins, almost made it three by taking them into the First Division. Since he left they've yo-yod between league one and two.
Leicester - two League Cup wins, European football and consecutive top ten finishes in the Premiership. Won nothing since, got relegated and now literally cannot buy their way back into the top flight.
Villa - cup final appearance, European football and consecutive sixth placed finishes. Nothing anywhere close to that since he left, or for many years before he arrived.
Celtic - smashed Rangers dominance with league and cup successes that Strachan, Mowbray and Lennon have been unable to match since. Took a Scottish team to a European cup final which is fcking miraculous.
And this is average? |
Clive, when you keep asking others who they would have instead of Neil, he is the only one who I would trade him for, if there would even be the slightest chance of him coming to LR. Fortunately, i do want rid of Neil, so the problem does not arise.
Helps, too, that he is one of my Norn Iron heroes |  | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 01:50 - Jan 4 with 2179 views | ade_qpr |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:46 - Jan 3 by Northernr |
If he's average why did all four clubs achieve more with him than they have with anybody else in the last 25 years? Fcking superb manager, always has been.
Wycombe - two promotions and FA trophy wins, almost made it three by taking them into the First Division. Since he left they've yo-yod between league one and two.
Leicester - two League Cup wins, European football and consecutive top ten finishes in the Premiership. Won nothing since, got relegated and now literally cannot buy their way back into the top flight.
Villa - cup final appearance, European football and consecutive sixth placed finishes. Nothing anywhere close to that since he left, or for many years before he arrived.
Celtic - smashed Rangers dominance with league and cup successes that Strachan, Mowbray and Lennon have been unable to match since. Took a Scottish team to a European cup final which is fcking miraculous.
And this is average? |
Clive if you read this just looking for a honest opinion. What sort of job will he do with Sunderland? Short term for me is that they are no longer relegation candidates which doesn't help QPR. But long term? Similar to Villa going on the size of the club? |  |
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 07:34 - Jan 4 with 2151 views | stowmarketrange |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 21:23 - Jan 3 by wombat |
You would hope that Barton can use that as evidence in his defence although knowing the Fa I doubt it very much |
I think the difference between the two cases is,the ref saw something and did nothing,and our ref saw nothing, but did something.
I think that we have no chance of overturning the red card for two very important reasons.
1)The fact that it is Barton and Warnock in the dock,and the F.A. have been waiting a long time for revenge.Especially after they were made to look such a bunch of idiots over the Faurlin case.
2) The main reason that it won't be rescinded is because the referee has just been promoted to the Premiership and they won't want to undermine him and damage his career prospects by overturning his first big decision in the top league. |  | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 10:44 - Jan 4 with 2083 views | TGRRRSSS |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 01:50 - Jan 4 by ade_qpr |
Clive if you read this just looking for a honest opinion. What sort of job will he do with Sunderland? Short term for me is that they are no longer relegation candidates which doesn't help QPR. But long term? Similar to Villa going on the size of the club? |
He'll get them into the Top 10 easily, with a bit more money he might get a cup run and maybe even Europe given time, unlikely he'll win them the League but if thats the benchmark...... then everyone who isn't basically Ferguson, Mourinho or Wenger in the past 15 years is a failure.
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| dzeko jurt did a barton on 10:53 - Jan 4 with 2066 views | bob566 |
we had this debate a few weeks ago when he took over and i couldn't believe that some posters on here said he was average. I reckon unless mourinho takes over from ferguson you are looking at his replacement in o'neill. | | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 11:30 - Jan 4 with 2044 views | westberksr |
O'Neill is tactically sound, plays to the strengths of the players he has; doesn't try and make a round 'un fit in a square 'un. Most importantly he hgets a defence organised first; never had a team at any level that was easy to beat.
When a manager that was a centre back with 10 odd years premiership experience can't organise a team and O'Neill gets the results he has with the same manpower you have all the proof you need.
we were unlucky to not play them a couple of weeks earlier |  | | |
| dzeko jurt did a barton on 13:09 - Jan 4 with 1994 views | ultramagnetic |
this is O'neil that with villa they struggled for march onwards every season
2006/7 finished 11th
2007/8 6th but 3 wins out of last 11
2008/9 6th but 2 wins out of last 14 games resulting in from 3rd 3 points off top to 28 points off top end of the season
2009/10 6th again
considering he had plenty of money to spend on likes of curtis davies 7.5m, sidwell 5.5m, cuellar 7.8m, harewood 4m, petrov 6.5m, reo coker 8.5m and sold cahill to bolton. The moment he was told he had to cut down on transfers he walked. | | | |
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