| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:37 - Jan 18 with 1611 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:16 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
You really do have a moist spot for him.
He’s not that pretty surely unless you like slapheads |
No soft spot
Just observant....we have a poor squad...look at today's bench ...Fulton Naughton Christie.....all decent ayers but in the twilight of thier careers.
Apart from Cabango and Darling we don't have any centre backs.....I doubtnif both where fully fit today but they had to be played.
We as fans talk about us playing the Swansea Way...passing the ball.....This manager is trying to do so and mixers it up with long balls....amazingly after the Southampton game the.manager was critiscised for being obsessed with short passing yet he has had his critics for Vigs long kicks.
Wee are mid table and are so for a reason we have a squad of mid table quality....the Championship is strange on their day any team can get a win
If Ronald and Eom were special don't you think the likes of Leeds,or lower premier league clubs wouldn't have taken a punt?
Yeah Williams is not a "great" manager but who else could do a job with the resources
Denise critiscised for not using more of the U21s
Much has been spoken of the wage situation mayne Williams is restricted to bringing in additional players to the squad.
We have a budget...already burdened we are told with the wages for Pederson ...maybe Williams can't add additional cost ....whilst the u21 have a basic maybe there is additional cost due ti adding if and when they sit non thee bench ir play for thee first team.
Maybe I overthink things but I got it right when Potter was here and folks were slating him for not picking Routledge..
Let's sack Williams who played entertaining winning football at Notts County.....with 3 at the back.......
Let's hear it who replaces him.....and our third manager in 2 years....signs if a club in crisis....don't hear Man City fans calling for Peps head |  |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:44 - Jan 18 with 1552 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:37 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
No soft spot
Just observant....we have a poor squad...look at today's bench ...Fulton Naughton Christie.....all decent ayers but in the twilight of thier careers.
Apart from Cabango and Darling we don't have any centre backs.....I doubtnif both where fully fit today but they had to be played.
We as fans talk about us playing the Swansea Way...passing the ball.....This manager is trying to do so and mixers it up with long balls....amazingly after the Southampton game the.manager was critiscised for being obsessed with short passing yet he has had his critics for Vigs long kicks.
Wee are mid table and are so for a reason we have a squad of mid table quality....the Championship is strange on their day any team can get a win
If Ronald and Eom were special don't you think the likes of Leeds,or lower premier league clubs wouldn't have taken a punt?
Yeah Williams is not a "great" manager but who else could do a job with the resources
Denise critiscised for not using more of the U21s
Much has been spoken of the wage situation mayne Williams is restricted to bringing in additional players to the squad.
We have a budget...already burdened we are told with the wages for Pederson ...maybe Williams can't add additional cost ....whilst the u21 have a basic maybe there is additional cost due ti adding if and when they sit non thee bench ir play for thee first team.
Maybe I overthink things but I got it right when Potter was here and folks were slating him for not picking Routledge..
Let's sack Williams who played entertaining winning football at Notts County.....with 3 at the back.......
Let's hear it who replaces him.....and our third manager in 2 years....signs if a club in crisis....don't hear Man City fans calling for Peps head |
Pep! Jesus Christ he’s one of the most successful managers ever.
You’re ignoring the fact he’s lost the players. We’ve seen this before, albeit for different reasons, with Laudrup and Duff. | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:51 - Jan 18 with 1515 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:44 - Jan 18 by jack247 |
Pep! Jesus Christ he’s one of the most successful managers ever.
You’re ignoring the fact he’s lost the players. We’ve seen this before, albeit for different reasons, with Laudrup and Duff. |
Luadrup.....shat on by Monk
We could have won thee Europa league under Laudrup wee saw some great football in those European matches under Luadrup that season.....too many players worried they would lose PL status...
or rather has been like Monk | |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:54 - Jan 18 with 1504 views | nantywatcher |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:37 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
No soft spot
Just observant....we have a poor squad...look at today's bench ...Fulton Naughton Christie.....all decent ayers but in the twilight of thier careers.
Apart from Cabango and Darling we don't have any centre backs.....I doubtnif both where fully fit today but they had to be played.
We as fans talk about us playing the Swansea Way...passing the ball.....This manager is trying to do so and mixers it up with long balls....amazingly after the Southampton game the.manager was critiscised for being obsessed with short passing yet he has had his critics for Vigs long kicks.
Wee are mid table and are so for a reason we have a squad of mid table quality....the Championship is strange on their day any team can get a win
If Ronald and Eom were special don't you think the likes of Leeds,or lower premier league clubs wouldn't have taken a punt?
Yeah Williams is not a "great" manager but who else could do a job with the resources
Denise critiscised for not using more of the U21s
Much has been spoken of the wage situation mayne Williams is restricted to bringing in additional players to the squad.
We have a budget...already burdened we are told with the wages for Pederson ...maybe Williams can't add additional cost ....whilst the u21 have a basic maybe there is additional cost due ti adding if and when they sit non thee bench ir play for thee first team.
Maybe I overthink things but I got it right when Potter was here and folks were slating him for not picking Routledge..
Let's sack Williams who played entertaining winning football at Notts County.....with 3 at the back.......
Let's hear it who replaces him.....and our third manager in 2 years....signs if a club in crisis....don't hear Man City fans calling for Peps head |
Before today's game we had the worst 2nd half performances of the 24 teams in the league, today compounded that position.. If that does not highlight for you just how poor a manager LW is then nothing will.. We have given every one of the top 6 teams a close match. A decent manager and we would without any doubt be near the play offs. He must go or we very quickly will be overtaken by Cardiff and facing a relegation battle. GET RID. | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:57 - Jan 18 with 1475 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:54 - Jan 18 by nantywatcher |
Before today's game we had the worst 2nd half performances of the 24 teams in the league, today compounded that position.. If that does not highlight for you just how poor a manager LW is then nothing will.. We have given every one of the top 6 teams a close match. A decent manager and we would without any doubt be near the play offs. He must go or we very quickly will be overtaken by Cardiff and facing a relegation battle. GET RID. |
That's perhaps the least surprising statistic of the season.
He has consistently proven himself to be unable or unwilling to change games or even adequately react to opposing management. |  |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:58 - Jan 18 with 1466 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:51 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
Luadrup.....shat on by Monk
We could have won thee Europa league under Laudrup wee saw some great football in those European matches under Luadrup that season.....too many players worried they would lose PL status...
or rather has been like Monk |
Yes, but that’s not the point.
They both lost the dressing room and eventually paid with their jobs. That’s happened again and it’s very difficult to recover from. | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:58 - Jan 18 with 1453 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:54 - Jan 18 by nantywatcher |
Before today's game we had the worst 2nd half performances of the 24 teams in the league, today compounded that position.. If that does not highlight for you just how poor a manager LW is then nothing will.. We have given every one of the top 6 teams a close match. A decent manager and we would without any doubt be near the play offs. He must go or we very quickly will be overtaken by Cardiff and facing a relegation battle. GET RID. |
I get it
So who is this illustrious "decent " manager?
please list possible candidates
will they come here given our squad?
will they come here given our spending power.....we haven't been able to secure identified targets such as Joe Low due to the financial constraints we are operating under
So come on let's hear it | |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:02 - Jan 18 with 1402 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 20:58 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
I get it
So who is this illustrious "decent " manager?
please list possible candidates
will they come here given our squad?
will they come here given our spending power.....we haven't been able to secure identified targets such as Joe Low due to the financial constraints we are operating under
So come on let's hear it |
and if we sack Williams..we have to.pay off him and his staff which further compounds our financial issues...
even placing them on gardening leave will mean should we recruit another managerial/coaching teal we will be doubling ot more so the costnof coaching the team.
Another question do we have the "expertise " within the club to select the right replacement for Williams | |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:09 - Jan 18 with 1361 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:02 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
and if we sack Williams..we have to.pay off him and his staff which further compounds our financial issues...
even placing them on gardening leave will mean should we recruit another managerial/coaching teal we will be doubling ot more so the costnof coaching the team.
Another question do we have the "expertise " within the club to select the right replacement for Williams |
Put him on gardening leave, it only costs his normal wages. Put Sheehan back in charge for now. No expense and we could be no worse or could we. |  | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:15 - Jan 18 with 1317 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:09 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
Put him on gardening leave, it only costs his normal wages. Put Sheehan back in charge for now. No expense and we could be no worse or could we. |
do you think Sheehan will be better?
At least you have offered a name and yes this would be be a cost neutral option but is not a long term solution
What if results stay the same under Sheehan?
He didn't set the world alight the last time he was caretaker | |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:24 - Jan 18 with 1222 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:15 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
do you think Sheehan will be better?
At least you have offered a name and yes this would be be a cost neutral option but is not a long term solution
What if results stay the same under Sheehan?
He didn't set the world alight the last time he was caretaker |
I think it would be a safe option to get us through the season without the worry of relegation. Then rebuild in the summer hopefully in a better position with P&S, the ownership will know the figures. | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:28 - Jan 18 with 1201 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:24 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
I think it would be a safe option to get us through the season without the worry of relegation. Then rebuild in the summer hopefully in a better position with P&S, the ownership will know the figures. |
Yep.
As "nothing" as Sheehan might be, at least he's not someone tactically illiterate, who clearly doesn't want to be here, and who the players appear to have about as much respect for as Labour do for the Working classes. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:32 - Jan 18 with 1156 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:28 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
Yep.
As "nothing" as Sheehan might be, at least he's not someone tactically illiterate, who clearly doesn't want to be here, and who the players appear to have about as much respect for as Labour do for the Working classes. |
How can peeps be so sure Sheehan will be any better than William's
Was he lying?
This site says they have the evidence to prove he was.....yet can't provide it?
So they could be lieing too....but folks are lore.prepared to believe them? | |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:34 - Jan 18 with 1149 views | TenbySwan |
Was at Southampton boxing day '23 when we were thumped 5 0 under Sheehan.
Not the answer sorry. |  | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:48 - Jan 18 with 1040 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:34 - Jan 18 by TenbySwan |
Was at Southampton boxing day '23 when we were thumped 5 0 under Sheehan.
Not the answer sorry. |
With a 42% win rate he is better than Williams, Duff, Martin and Potter since relegation. Only Cooper is slightly better. | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:01 - Jan 18 with 954 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:48 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
With a 42% win rate he is better than Williams, Duff, Martin and Potter since relegation. Only Cooper is slightly better. |
and how many games?
Statistics are great .....interesting to see what results he'd get over 20 games rather than the 7 games he was in charge for | |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:07 - Jan 18 with 910 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:01 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
and how many games?
Statistics are great .....interesting to see what results he'd get over 20 games rather than the 7 games he was in charge for |
True give him the job until the end of the season, in my mind he would steady the ship. We can't go on as we are. | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:09 - Jan 18 with 897 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:07 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
True give him the job until the end of the season, in my mind he would steady the ship. We can't go on as we are. |
how can we be so sure Sheehan will steady the d
ship? | |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:10 - Jan 18 with 894 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 21:34 - Jan 18 by TenbySwan |
Was at Southampton boxing day '23 when we were thumped 5 0 under Sheehan.
Not the answer sorry. |
And your answer is. It's easy to criticise without putting forward a sensible alternative. | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:12 - Jan 18 with 873 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:09 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
how can we be so sure Sheehan will steady the d
ship? |
He did it last time. What is your answer, leave things as they are? | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:13 - Jan 18 with 859 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:12 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
He did it last time. What is your answer, leave things as they are? |
7 games he had....Luke has has good results across 7 game too [Post edited 18 Jan 22:14]
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:17 - Jan 18 with 832 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:13 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
7 games he had....Luke has has good results across 7 game too [Post edited 18 Jan 22:14]
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So your opinion on what we should do is? | | | |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:17 - Jan 18 with 834 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:13 - Jan 18 by vetchonian |
7 games he had....Luke has has good results across 7 game too [Post edited 18 Jan 22:14]
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Williams has delivered very little in the twelve months he's been here. Players have got worse. Youth remains undeveloped. Opposing teams make unanswered tactical changes. Desperate attempts for other clubs to hire him go unanswered.
To be frank, I'd rather have Duff back. I think his points per game average is better. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 23:09 - Jan 18 with 701 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 22:17 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
Williams has delivered very little in the twelve months he's been here. Players have got worse. Youth remains undeveloped. Opposing teams make unanswered tactical changes. Desperate attempts for other clubs to hire him go unanswered.
To be frank, I'd rather have Duff back. I think his points per game average is better. |
Duff 1.11 points per game
Williams 1.25 points per game
Win rate
Duff 28.57%
Williams 34.62%
In relation to a manager who is available and sacked for the following record at Stoke
Steve Schumacher
1.41 points per game
40.63 % win rate |  |
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| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 01:06 - Jan 19 with 531 views | sons_of_omri |
| Swansea City : Sorry Luke, but this simply isn’t working on 23:09 - Jan 18 by magicdaps10 |
Duff 1.11 points per game
Williams 1.25 points per game
Win rate
Duff 28.57%
Williams 34.62%
In relation to a manager who is available and sacked for the following record at Stoke
Steve Schumacher
1.41 points per game
40.63 % win rate |
Every managerial appointment is important but for us now it’s critical to get the right person in.
Let’s look abroad and see who’s available - hopefully an ex player who’s done something while playing and with tactical acumen and flexible playing systems. Someone who like Laudrup played the possession game with lightening quick counters. | | | |
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