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Mothers Milk 21:33 - Dec 4 with 3990 viewscolinallcars

The Beeb reporting supplies of Guinness could run low over Xmas due to spiralling demand.
I'm a bitter man meself ( very bitter coming away from most Rs games), but choose Guinness if in a pub with no cask ale.
Stock up - panic buy !
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Mothers Milk on 08:51 - Dec 5 with 2415 viewsTheChef

The "Beeb" can fck off.

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Mothers Milk on 10:54 - Dec 5 with 2329 viewsMick_S

Right, here we go!

Went on a wine/beer/strong sweet drinks tasting day a few weeks ago. Tour guide/expert told us that Guinness have the best marketing people in the alcohol advertising world. He also said that the slow Guinness two part pour is absolute bollocks(his words) and that it was devised to make the drink appear more special than what others are having. He also said that the pint tastes exactly the same however it’s poured.


So there!

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Mothers Milk on 11:02 - Dec 5 with 2301 viewsToast_R

I've had one of those Guinness Nitro surgers. The cans around £2 each for a pint size unless Tesco are doing them.on a Clubcard special.

I'm not totally convinced it makes any difference to the standard draught can to be honest but is does pour more like a pub Guinness. Anyone else have this and what do you make of it?
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Mothers Milk on 11:03 - Dec 5 with 2298 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Mothers Milk on 10:54 - Dec 5 by Mick_S

Right, here we go!

Went on a wine/beer/strong sweet drinks tasting day a few weeks ago. Tour guide/expert told us that Guinness have the best marketing people in the alcohol advertising world. He also said that the slow Guinness two part pour is absolute bollocks(his words) and that it was devised to make the drink appear more special than what others are having. He also said that the pint tastes exactly the same however it’s poured.


So there!


Burn him!

The head tastes terrible, the black tastes lovely. If it's poured too quickly the head won't form properly and before long it's mixed up with the lovely black stuff and yer pint tastes like muck.

Same with Murphy's. Same with Beamish (though Beamish tastes terrible no matter how you pour it!).

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Mothers Milk on 11:05 - Dec 5 with 2277 viewsCroydonCaptJack

I had my first ever pint of the stuff last year at (of all places) the Guinness Factory in Dublin. Slightly embarrassing given I am sixty (hard to believe I know )

I really enjoyed it and have been consuming a few ever since.
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Mothers Milk on 11:10 - Dec 5 with 2255 viewsSuperhoop83

Mothers Milk on 11:03 - Dec 5 by BrianMcCarthy

Burn him!

The head tastes terrible, the black tastes lovely. If it's poured too quickly the head won't form properly and before long it's mixed up with the lovely black stuff and yer pint tastes like muck.

Same with Murphy's. Same with Beamish (though Beamish tastes terrible no matter how you pour it!).


I'm with Mick and Brian!

On the one hand, the sale of most alcohol is down to marketing and Guinness has somehow pulled off the trick of looking like something cool to drink, which makes no sense when you think about it.

On the other hand, I've had some great pints of Guinness and some utter drek from local pubs a few hundred yards apart, but whether it is down to the pour or other factors I have no idea.

While we're at it, I'm still impressed with Guinness 0.0. No other AF drinks come close to it for tasting like the alcoholic version and it's just about as good as the normal stuff, even if Guinness never tastes as good from a can.
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Suffering since 1978.

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Mothers Milk on 11:41 - Dec 5 with 2181 viewsQPR_John

Mothers Milk on 11:10 - Dec 5 by Superhoop83

I'm with Mick and Brian!

On the one hand, the sale of most alcohol is down to marketing and Guinness has somehow pulled off the trick of looking like something cool to drink, which makes no sense when you think about it.

On the other hand, I've had some great pints of Guinness and some utter drek from local pubs a few hundred yards apart, but whether it is down to the pour or other factors I have no idea.

While we're at it, I'm still impressed with Guinness 0.0. No other AF drinks come close to it for tasting like the alcoholic version and it's just about as good as the normal stuff, even if Guinness never tastes as good from a can.
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Could not agree more re Guinness 0.0
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Mothers Milk on 11:50 - Dec 5 with 2154 viewsSnipper

The only time my dad would drink at home was at Christmas.

He used to put 2 or 3 bottles of Guinness by the fire before he had it. Being an old Irish fella, he said it’s meant to be drank a tad warm. He’d never have entertained Guinness Cold from a pub.
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Mothers Milk on 12:14 - Dec 5 with 2081 viewsToast_R

My father in law is exactly the same. Wont entrrtain any beer cold especially Guinness (Doesn't do lagers).

Re Guinness Zero, must be just me but I think it's rancid and I enjoy a real Guinness but Zero is an abomination. Has an absolutey awful aftertaste that I cannot get passed. Couldn't even finish 1 can as it made me feel sick.

Don't really get alcohol free immitations. Would rather have a soft drink, at least they taste nice.
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Mothers Milk on 12:19 - Dec 5 with 2056 viewsCateLeBonR

Mothers Milk on 11:50 - Dec 5 by Snipper

The only time my dad would drink at home was at Christmas.

He used to put 2 or 3 bottles of Guinness by the fire before he had it. Being an old Irish fella, he said it’s meant to be drank a tad warm. He’d never have entertained Guinness Cold from a pub.
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Best time I've had it was quite recently in west Sussex. A pub called the Rising Sun in Nutbourne. They have a small sign on one side of the bar saying 'Draught Guinness' with a little toucan on top and a little tap. Almost like a shrine. I didn't notice it at first but had to try a quick half before we left. Correct temperature, creaminess, everything, marvellous it was.
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Mothers Milk on 12:28 - Dec 5 with 2032 viewsstowmarketrange

Mothers Milk on 11:02 - Dec 5 by Toast_R

I've had one of those Guinness Nitro surgers. The cans around £2 each for a pint size unless Tesco are doing them.on a Clubcard special.

I'm not totally convinced it makes any difference to the standard draught can to be honest but is does pour more like a pub Guinness. Anyone else have this and what do you make of it?


My daughter bought me one last year and it does make a difference to how it looks in the glass,but the cans are hard to get up here.
Somebody told me that it works on normal draught Guinness cans,but I haven’t tried that yet.
Back in the early 80’s my brother and me went over to Ireland and he bought 4 bottles of draught Guinness and there was a little plunger with the 4 pack to force air into the glass to make it look like a proper pint.I was only a lager man way back then so I never tasted it to find out if it was ok.
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Mothers Milk on 12:41 - Dec 5 with 1978 viewsPaddyhoops

Mothers Milk on 11:03 - Dec 5 by BrianMcCarthy

Burn him!

The head tastes terrible, the black tastes lovely. If it's poured too quickly the head won't form properly and before long it's mixed up with the lovely black stuff and yer pint tastes like muck.

Same with Murphy's. Same with Beamish (though Beamish tastes terrible no matter how you pour it!).


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Mothers Milk on 14:27 - Dec 5 with 1794 viewsNewBee

I once knew one old boy (Irish) who only ever drank his Guinness from bottles. Used to call a pint bottle a "sergeant", for some unknown reason, which I think my be be a term used in the north of Ireland, where he was from?

Anyhow, I'd bet that this current Xmas scare story is a just a (no cost) ruse to keep Guinness in the headlines.

As somebody said earlier, their promotion/marketing is excellent.

P.S. Does anyone remember "The Doctor's Dilemma" pub in Hammersmith Tube Station (H&C Line entrance)? I was in there once and a more dank and dingy hole you couldn't find anywhere, even by Hammersmith's then pre-gentrified standards.
Anyhow, it was during a weekday and there were only 4 or 5 punters in, all Irish I'd guess. Thing is, iirc they only had five(?) beer taps - something like four serving Guinness and the fifth lager (just in case a very lost tourist wandered in?)
Never seen anything like that place.

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Mothers Milk on 14:53 - Dec 5 with 1753 viewsNewBee

On the subject of Guinness marketing, I've just chanced upon this gallery of their TV adverts:
https://guinness.access.preservica.com/uncategorized/SO_f6dfc63b-2d59-4f68-ae93-

There are some absolute crackers there - I loved the "Guinness History of the Cinema", while "The Bricklayer" drinking a bottle from a goblet was an unusual take.

As for "The Army Game", the voices were an obvious rip-off of the Goons characters.
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Mothers Milk on 14:59 - Dec 5 with 1743 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Mothers Milk on 11:50 - Dec 5 by Snipper

The only time my dad would drink at home was at Christmas.

He used to put 2 or 3 bottles of Guinness by the fire before he had it. Being an old Irish fella, he said it’s meant to be drank a tad warm. He’d never have entertained Guinness Cold from a pub.
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Should be slightly warm, definitely. And the glass should be bone dry prior to pouring.

Too cold and the head/rings won't stick to the glass, and - y'know - it will all taste like muck.

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Mothers Milk on 15:01 - Dec 5 with 1726 viewsTheChef

Mothers Milk on 11:10 - Dec 5 by Superhoop83

I'm with Mick and Brian!

On the one hand, the sale of most alcohol is down to marketing and Guinness has somehow pulled off the trick of looking like something cool to drink, which makes no sense when you think about it.

On the other hand, I've had some great pints of Guinness and some utter drek from local pubs a few hundred yards apart, but whether it is down to the pour or other factors I have no idea.

While we're at it, I'm still impressed with Guinness 0.0. No other AF drinks come close to it for tasting like the alcoholic version and it's just about as good as the normal stuff, even if Guinness never tastes as good from a can.
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Sorry I really wasn't sure about Guinness Zero.

I much prefer this - https://www.bigdropbrew.com/drinks/alcohol-free-stout/

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Mothers Milk on 15:04 - Dec 5 with 1703 viewsTheChef

And if drinking Guinness at home then it has to be Original - none of that nitro stuff.

https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/guinness-original-extra-stout-beer-4-2-

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Mothers Milk on 15:12 - Dec 5 with 1658 viewsMrSheen

I happened to be reading a different article about the global popularity of Guinness this year, which they put down to “Splitting the G”. It’s a social media craze where you’re filmed glugging the first swig of a pint but stopping so the divide between black and white divides the lettering on the glass, or alternatively the name and the harp. My daughter confirms this is a thing with her friends. Bars in New York admit to ordering glasses with lower lettering to sell more. Were we this impressionable (very possibly)?

I’m another that laments the end of the pint bottle, much preferred it to Draught despite the ghastly wreckage left behind the morning after.
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Mothers Milk on 15:13 - Dec 5 with 1650 viewskensalriser

Draught Guinness is a pasteurised keg beer, so it shouldn't really vary very much at all (unlike cask conditioned beers). Low turnover pubs not keeping their lines clean is probably the only real jeopardy.

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Mothers Milk on 15:15 - Dec 5 with 1637 viewsBoston

There are usually three beers at my house.

Bottled Guinness Extra
Miller Lite
Old Speckled Hen

It really depends on my mood which will be consumed on any given evening. Good news for the OSH drinkers, the local 'liquor stores' have just started to stock them in the refrigerated cabinets, (since they appeared they've always been on a regular shelf), as the rising sales volume has merited promotion. $12.99 a four pack, so one of the pricier canned beverages, but a bloody good beer, taste and looks wise.
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Mothers Milk on 15:15 - Dec 5 with 1637 viewsEastR

Mothers Milk on 14:27 - Dec 5 by NewBee

I once knew one old boy (Irish) who only ever drank his Guinness from bottles. Used to call a pint bottle a "sergeant", for some unknown reason, which I think my be be a term used in the north of Ireland, where he was from?

Anyhow, I'd bet that this current Xmas scare story is a just a (no cost) ruse to keep Guinness in the headlines.

As somebody said earlier, their promotion/marketing is excellent.

P.S. Does anyone remember "The Doctor's Dilemma" pub in Hammersmith Tube Station (H&C Line entrance)? I was in there once and a more dank and dingy hole you couldn't find anywhere, even by Hammersmith's then pre-gentrified standards.
Anyhow, it was during a weekday and there were only 4 or 5 punters in, all Irish I'd guess. Thing is, iirc they only had five(?) beer taps - something like four serving Guinness and the fifth lager (just in case a very lost tourist wandered in?)
Never seen anything like that place.

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Being from that neck of the woods we’d often cross over into Armagh for a bit of shopping or a beer.
The locals called a small bottle of stout a half pint, or a guard (Garda), and a big bottle a sergeant, presumably referring to the higher rank

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Mothers Milk on 15:20 - Dec 5 with 1615 viewsMrSheen

Mothers Milk on 15:13 - Dec 5 by kensalriser

Draught Guinness is a pasteurised keg beer, so it shouldn't really vary very much at all (unlike cask conditioned beers). Low turnover pubs not keeping their lines clean is probably the only real jeopardy.


I read an interesting piece about the lack of non alcoholic keg beer. I’m no chemist but it claimed that the lack of alcohol meant it soured more quickly, particularly what was trapped in the line between the tap and the keg. One solution was to surround the beer line with a casing with chilled water circulating in it, but less trouble just to sell expensive bottles.
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Mothers Milk on 15:22 - Dec 5 with 1590 viewsW4Hoop

I was told during a visit to St James Gate Brewery that Guinness for domestic consumption is brewed differently from that made overseas. The domestic stuff takes much longer to pour but tastes smoother when done, but Guinness drinkers outside Ireland don't have the patience. I do remember when I lived in Dublin there would always be a dozen pints ready on the bar when they opened the doors.
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Mothers Milk on 15:31 - Dec 5 with 1559 viewsgolborne

Mothers Milk on 14:27 - Dec 5 by NewBee

I once knew one old boy (Irish) who only ever drank his Guinness from bottles. Used to call a pint bottle a "sergeant", for some unknown reason, which I think my be be a term used in the north of Ireland, where he was from?

Anyhow, I'd bet that this current Xmas scare story is a just a (no cost) ruse to keep Guinness in the headlines.

As somebody said earlier, their promotion/marketing is excellent.

P.S. Does anyone remember "The Doctor's Dilemma" pub in Hammersmith Tube Station (H&C Line entrance)? I was in there once and a more dank and dingy hole you couldn't find anywhere, even by Hammersmith's then pre-gentrified standards.
Anyhow, it was during a weekday and there were only 4 or 5 punters in, all Irish I'd guess. Thing is, iirc they only had five(?) beer taps - something like four serving Guinness and the fifth lager (just in case a very lost tourist wandered in?)
Never seen anything like that place.

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It's a different beer altogether. That't'd be Guinness Extra, which is basically what the original Guinness was before they introduced the nitro version it to keep the pace with the influx of American largers. You can still buy it in the supermarkets here and pubs in Ireland. I mostly drink it when drinking at home. It's one for those who likes ales.
There's also a Nigerian export version that's about 8% and lovely
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Mothers Milk on 16:05 - Dec 5 with 1489 viewsBoston

Mothers Milk on 15:31 - Dec 5 by golborne

It's a different beer altogether. That't'd be Guinness Extra, which is basically what the original Guinness was before they introduced the nitro version it to keep the pace with the influx of American largers. You can still buy it in the supermarkets here and pubs in Ireland. I mostly drink it when drinking at home. It's one for those who likes ales.
There's also a Nigerian export version that's about 8% and lovely


The last stronghold of large bottles was in Waterford City. Brewed locally at Cherry's Brewery it held out for decades before swamped by modern day lagers.

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