| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 16:26 - Nov 24 with 2083 views | EastR |
4pm on a Sunday Clive? Must be date night tonight! |  |
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| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 16:29 - Nov 24 with 2047 views | Northernr |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 16:26 - Nov 24 by EastR |
4pm on a Sunday Clive? Must be date night tonight! |
Well, as I've said a few times lately, I'm kind of preparing for having to do some more work imminently! You wouldn't want a match report to write as well were that to happen this afternoon. |  | | |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 17:07 - Nov 24 with 1720 views | stainrods_elbow |
Nice, natty, incisive report, picking through the miscellany of positives, negatives, and unbelievables on a strange rainstorm of a day and laced with a strychnine admixture of appalling stats, but who are the 'eight' first teamers still injured? I have five: JCS, Chair, Colback, Dembele and Frey, one more of whom (Colback) is, we're told, back this week. I noticed Marti exaggerated this in his WLS debrief too.
I hope I'm wrong, but I still don't see Cifuentes being sacked soon (and remain disturbed by the thing being prematurely ushered in in rehearsed writing, whatver brickbats the usual suspects want to throw). If he could win a game sometime soon, though, it would do his chances of sticking around a shot of soul, and I've got a silly feeling we might sneak it against Cardiff.
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| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 17:10 - Nov 24 with 1726 views | Northernr |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 17:07 - Nov 24 by stainrods_elbow |
Nice, natty, incisive report, picking through the miscellany of positives, negatives, and unbelievables on a strange rainstorm of a day and laced with a strychnine admixture of appalling stats, but who are the 'eight' first teamers still injured? I have five: JCS, Chair, Colback, Dembele and Frey, one more of whom (Colback) is, we're told, back this week. I noticed Marti exaggerated this in his WLS debrief too.
I hope I'm wrong, but I still don't see Cifuentes being sacked soon (and remain disturbed by the thing being prematurely ushered in in rehearsed writing, whatver brickbats the usual suspects want to throw). If he could win a game sometime soon, though, it would do his chances of sticking around a shot of soul, and I've got a silly feeling we might sneak it against Cardiff.
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I'll tell you what, if it'll cheer you up a bit, I'll change that from eight to five for you now... | | | |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 17:11 - Nov 24 with 1692 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 16:29 - Nov 24 by Northernr |
Well, as I've said a few times lately, I'm kind of preparing for having to do some more work imminently! You wouldn't want a match report to write as well were that to happen this afternoon. |
Just out of interest, are you or anyone 'ITK' here, Clive, as you've been alluding to Marti's departure a lot? Or is this just funereal speculation based on what tends to happen at times like this? | |
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| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:05 - Nov 24 with 1380 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 17:10 - Nov 24 by Northernr |
I'll tell you what, if it'll cheer you up a bit, I'll change that from eight to five for you now... |
I'm over the moon ;-) | |
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| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:05 - Nov 24 with 1402 views | ParkRoyalR |
Signs of distress are as we've seen before,
Dunne trying to do too much and taking too many risks for the benefit of the team, (nearly caught out a 2nd time trying to beat his man by the dug-out as no-one else was showing)
Cook dropping too deep and not stepping out to put pressure on his man as with the 1st goal, but beyond infuriating is him always giving up responsibility to bring the ball out, one square pass to Fox when he had more space nearly tipped me over the edge,
Not deflecting from Dunne's mistake but I've seen this cycle before, Cook needs to step up and lead this team. | | | |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:17 - Nov 24 with 1313 views | Northernr |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:05 - Nov 24 by ParkRoyalR |
Signs of distress are as we've seen before,
Dunne trying to do too much and taking too many risks for the benefit of the team, (nearly caught out a 2nd time trying to beat his man by the dug-out as no-one else was showing)
Cook dropping too deep and not stepping out to put pressure on his man as with the 1st goal, but beyond infuriating is him always giving up responsibility to bring the ball out, one square pass to Fox when he had more space nearly tipped me over the edge,
Not deflecting from Dunne's mistake but I've seen this cycle before, Cook needs to step up and lead this team. |
Ah yes, I remember it well.
So begins the 24/25 series of Who Else Can We Blame for Goals That A Really Fcking Obviously Jimmy Dunne's Fault? | | | |
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| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:47 - Nov 24 with 1114 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:17 - Nov 24 by Northernr |
Ah yes, I remember it well.
So begins the 24/25 series of Who Else Can We Blame for Goals That A Really Fcking Obviously Jimmy Dunne's Fault? |
Well we could mention the worse defensive error this season, Cooks pathetic shank for Leeds 1st goal, not sure I saw it mentioned in match report but could be wrong.
We have a fundamental problem in this team in moving the ball up the pitch,
Cook will only do if we're playing 10 men, we know Field doesn't have the close ball control or ability to turn tight with the ball,
And Varane who I like is a reactive player who when we're in possession seems to turn off and not offer an option,
This team has serious and fundamental flaws and we need our Captain to step up. | | | |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:56 - Nov 24 with 1054 views | ManinBlack |
Middlesbrough have scored 15 goals in 3 games. As for us I can't see us scoring 15 goals at home all season. Cardiff up next who have home wins against Millwall, Plymouth and Portsmouth, all teams we couldn't beat, plus a win against Norwich who we never seem to win against. One goal by them should be enough to see us off. [Post edited 24 Nov 19:04]
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| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 19:13 - Nov 24 with 971 views | Dorse |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 17:11 - Nov 24 by stainrods_elbow |
Just out of interest, are you or anyone 'ITK' here, Clive, as you've been alluding to Marti's departure a lot? Or is this just funereal speculation based on what tends to happen at times like this? |
I think it's the latter. I reckon you've seen this more than a few times: I mean, just since we were last in the Premiership, deep breath, Ramsey, JFH, Schteve, Ollie, Ainsworth and Critchley all had the death spiral narrative we see at the minute. Warbs avoided it (though he went close a couple of times) and Beale was a colossal penarse (nuff said).
The vibes feel similar to when things 'were what they were' - circling the drain, too far out from a transfer window, nothing going right. The difference this time is that, I think, Marti stands a chance of getting us out of it, but it's going to take some guts from the people at the top. He needs backing, not sacking and, right now, I think they're eyeing up the trap door so that they look decisive in front of the owners. Fcking up is just about the only thing we're consistently good at. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 19:39 - Nov 24 with 847 views | Paddyhoops |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:17 - Nov 24 by Northernr |
Ah yes, I remember it well.
So begins the 24/25 series of Who Else Can We Blame for Goals That A Really Fcking Obviously Jimmy Dunne's Fault? |
Two unforced errors cost us the game .
I like Jimmy . I’m a paddy . I want to see him do well but he f**ed up there . Big time.
Celar missed a penalty . You shouldn’t miss a penalty. End off . More points dropped against poor enough Stoke side. | | | |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 20:19 - Nov 24 with 680 views | mart_Goblin |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 18:17 - Nov 24 by Northernr |
Ah yes, I remember it well.
So begins the 24/25 series of Who Else Can We Blame for Goals That A Really Fcking Obviously Jimmy Dunne's Fault? |
Clumsy thumbs . Apologies .
Actually made me laugh out loud |  | | |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 21:01 - Nov 24 with 455 views | Myke |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 20:19 - Nov 24 by mart_Goblin |
Clumsy thumbs . Apologies .
Actually made me laugh out loud |
Cheers Clive. Gallows humour provided lol moments. Steve Cooper sounds like someone we deserve [Post edited 24 Nov 21:02]
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| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 22:18 - Nov 24 with 169 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Celar's deepening nightmare leaves QPR well adrift – Report on 19:13 - Nov 24 by Dorse |
I think it's the latter. I reckon you've seen this more than a few times: I mean, just since we were last in the Premiership, deep breath, Ramsey, JFH, Schteve, Ollie, Ainsworth and Critchley all had the death spiral narrative we see at the minute. Warbs avoided it (though he went close a couple of times) and Beale was a colossal penarse (nuff said).
The vibes feel similar to when things 'were what they were' - circling the drain, too far out from a transfer window, nothing going right. The difference this time is that, I think, Marti stands a chance of getting us out of it, but it's going to take some guts from the people at the top. He needs backing, not sacking and, right now, I think they're eyeing up the trap door so that they look decisive in front of the owners. Fcking up is just about the only thing we're consistently good at. |
I've said my piece on this, but whatever the logistics in Clive's writing life, it still feels a bit weirdly unsttling to me to be ostensibly supporting the manager while preparing a piece on his departure - a bit like telling a friend how much you love him while writing his funeral euology! (For a bit of context, I'm enough of a primititive poet to feel that when you use words to conjure anything, it gives them a reality, which is why I worry.)
I suspect the emotive support for Marti and the hatred/scapegoating of Nourry is a more dubious dichotomy than some can bear to admit and may actually be a psychological denial of a more equivocal underlying attitude that might be more authentic. Black and white thinking is so much comforting to some than cultivating complexity. At any rate, and as I've pointed out, Marti told the press less than three months ago he was pretty much entirely satisfied with our summer recruitment, so the Nourry /Cifuentes love-hateism needs at least to be somewhat curdled regardless. [Post edited 24 Nov 22:19]
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